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« Reply #2632 on: July 07, 2024, 11:58:21 AM »


I have no clue ...
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« Reply #2633 on: July 07, 2024, 03:35:19 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 07, 2024, 10:21:42 AM

If someone was tasked with defending this list, they'd sit silently.
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« Reply #2634 on: July 07, 2024, 03:38:12 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 07, 2024, 09:35:23 AM

So 5 transfers, 2 of which transferred twice, and a guy that's never started a regular season game.
Looks about right.  
Welcome to 2024.
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« Reply #2635 on: July 07, 2024, 04:42:54 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 07, 2024, 03:35:19 PM
If someone was tasked with defending this list, they'd sit silently.
I have a quibble. For RB's in the Alvarez to present, at Wisconsin.

Yes, Ron Dayne was great.

Gordon and Taylor were better.

Taylor was the best of the lot.
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« Reply #2636 on: July 07, 2024, 04:49:20 PM »
Right.
Taylor is the first RB to have a better 3-year resume than Walker.  Yet Walker is #1 and Taylor is.....nowhere.
Sanders is at #5, suggesting peak is important, but Gordon is....nowhere.

Staubach on any of these lists is lazy.
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It's just a grab-bag of consensus guys in whatever order.
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« Reply #2637 on: July 07, 2024, 05:05:12 PM »
It’s some opinion from.   Bleacher report. 
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« Reply #2638 on: July 07, 2024, 05:26:34 PM »
Someone should tell them I could replace their whole college football staff and save them a lot of money w/ better content.
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« Reply #2639 on: July 07, 2024, 05:27:45 PM »
Their objective is to get noticed.  To do that, you put out rankings with which folks disagree.  Then you are "relevant", somehow.

This is true for many such rankings.
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« Reply #2640 on: July 07, 2024, 06:16:50 PM »
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« Reply #2641 on: July 07, 2024, 06:45:52 PM »
or Iowa or nebraska, but probably South Dakota
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« Reply #2642 on: July 07, 2024, 08:25:56 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 07, 2024, 05:27:45 PM
Their objective is to get noticed.  To do that, you put out rankings with which folks disagree.  Then you are "relevant", somehow.

This is true for many such rankings.
Then I'd drive down their clicks/eyeballs with pride.  At least it would be genuine.
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« Reply #2643 on: July 07, 2024, 09:12:48 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 07, 2024, 03:38:12 PM
So 5 transfers, 2 of which transferred twice, and a guy that's never started a regular season game.
Looks about right. 
Welcome to 2024.
Hmmm. That's actually kinda interesting. 

So below is the list of first-year starters as full-time guys since the turn of the century. I'm not sure how to place a guy like Burrow, who was kinda fine as a first-year starter and then blew up. Lamar was somewhere between that and a first-year starter.

2003 - First-year starter

2007 - First-year starter
2010 - JuCo guy, first year as a starter at a 4-year school
2012 - First-year starter
2013 - First-year starter
2018 - First-year starter
2021 - First-year starter
2022 - First-year starter
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« Reply #2644 on: July 07, 2024, 10:16:47 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on July 07, 2024, 09:12:48 PM
Hmmm. That's actually kinda interesting.

So below is the list of first-year starters as full-time guys since the turn of the century. I'm not sure how to place a guy like Burrow, who was kinda fine as a first-year starter and then blew up. Lamar was somewhere between that and a first-year starter.

2003 - First-year starter

2007 - First-year starter
2010 - JuCo guy, first year as a starter at a 4-year school
2012 - First-year starter
2013 - First-year starter
2018 - First-year starter
2021 - First-year starter
2022 - First-year starter

It's 'just' QB, but this is why rankings or ratings obsessed with returning starters is silly.  Yes, known is preferable to unknown, but it doesn't make it better.
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« Reply #2645 on: July 07, 2024, 10:47:38 PM »
The midwest state that has become a factory for developing NFL players ranks ahead of Texas, Florida, California and Ohio.

DOUG SAMUELS JUL 3, 2024

At a rate of 12.5 NFL players per million residents, Iowa ranks just below states like Georgia (12.6), Alabama (12.7), and a bit further behind the national leaders of churning out NFL talent like Mississippi (14.5) and Louisiana (15).

https://footballscoop.com/news/theres-a-very-surprising-midwest-state-churning-out-nfl-talent

According to the data, the national average per state is 5.2 NFL players per million residents. States right around that national average include Michigan (5.4), North Carolina (5.7), and Texas (5.7).

Other relative surprises from the data:

Nebraska ranking higher than Texas (6.1)
Hawaii and Florida with the same (7.5)
Vermont is the only state with zero current NFL players
New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode Island all under 1 NFL player per million residents
Alaska (2.7) with a better figure than Arkansas (2.3), Washington (2.2), and North Dakota (2.6)
Georgia has FOUR times the number of NFL players as New York despite half the population.
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