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utee94

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« Reply #2562 on: July 03, 2024, 04:17:30 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 03, 2024, 04:05:29 PM
I need to move.
Wait, I meant, Austin has no French food whatsoever.  Also has the inside out mist and no beer and roaming gangs of kidney thieves, etc.
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« Reply #2563 on: July 03, 2024, 07:03:02 PM »
I have no stats but I'd bet a dollar that pork ribs are the most popular form of American bbq, and Texas ain't the pork rib king.
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« Reply #2564 on: July 03, 2024, 07:12:48 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on July 03, 2024, 07:03:02 PM
I have no stats but I'd bet a dollar that pork ribs are the most popular form of American bbq, and Texas ain't the pork rib king.
True, but a good number of them make pork ribs and call it BBQ, and it still just ain't so. 

Like the people that put them in their oven. Or that put them in their crock pot. 

Or my old man, who would boil the ribs until tender, throw them on the grill, and sauce them. 

Just because you throw BBQ sauce on some ribs doesn't mean you've BBQ'd ribs. 

(We're not gonna talk about my sous vide ribs BTW.)
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« Reply #2565 on: July 03, 2024, 08:48:28 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on July 03, 2024, 07:03:02 PM
I have no stats but I'd bet a dollar that pork ribs are the most popular form of American bbq, and Texas ain't the pork rib king.
Pork spare ribs are the #2 protein at any Texas BBQ restaurant and Texas does them as well as or better than anywhere else.  It's pulled pork that other areas do better, or at least more commonly, than Texas.

And all those places that put weird vinegary shit sauce on their pulled pork, suck too.

So, yeah, no-- I'm not giving any region an edge over Texas.
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« Reply #2566 on: July 03, 2024, 08:54:08 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 03, 2024, 08:48:28 PM
Pork spare ribs are the #2 protein at any Texas BBQ restaurant and Texas does them as well as or better than anywhere else.  It's pulled pork that other areas do better, or at least more commonly, than Texas.

And all those places that put weird vinegary shit sauce on their pulled pork, suck too.

So, yeah, no-- I'm not giving any region an edge over Texas.
#2 ain't #1

I don't doubt that Texas produces great ribs. So does Columbus. So does North Dakota. So does my grill. But places that specialize in the most popular dish are gonna get the nod for the best BBQ.
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« Reply #2567 on: July 03, 2024, 08:55:57 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on July 03, 2024, 08:54:08 PM
#2 ain't #1
No you're completely right,  #1 is the single best BBQ protein on the planet, and outside of Texas everybody screws it up.

Thanks for pointing that out and proving me correct. 
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« Reply #2568 on: July 04, 2024, 12:15:45 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 03, 2024, 08:48:28 PM
Pork spare ribs are the #2 protein at any Texas BBQ restaurant and Texas does them as well as or better than anywhere else.  It's pulled pork that other areas do better, or at least more commonly, than Texas.

And all those places that put weird vinegary shit sauce on their pulled pork, suck too.

I believe that no mustard-based sauce belongs anywhere near anything (Carolina style, from where I'm from).  

BUT pulled pork infused with a vinegar/tomato-based sauce is HEAVEN. 
Rural GA is where it's at.
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« Reply #2569 on: July 04, 2024, 07:18:28 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 03, 2024, 03:56:17 PM
You were responding defensively about CD's statement that Chicago isn't a "BBQ city."  Having lived my entire life in the single best BBQ city in the state, therefore the country, therefore the world, and having our family own and operate a BBQ restaurant in that city for a decade of my life, I can assure you that Chicago isn't a "BBQ city" regardless of being able to find some decent places there, these days.

You call it sensativity, I'm simply employing specificity. :)
No, I was responding to this statement:

Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on July 03, 2024, 01:45:11 PM

Neither LA, Chicago, or NY are "BBQ cities". They're big enough cities that they're bound to have good BBQ--if you search hard enough to find the right place.

All I said is you don't have to search "hard enough" anymore. BWAR hasn't lived in Chicago for decades.

Back then, BBQ was mostly South Side, so you had to 1) look hard and 2) decide if it was safe to go.

Anyway, a buddy of mine owns this place in Palatine, where I moved here from. Good Eats. I'll be eating there next week.

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« Reply #2570 on: July 04, 2024, 07:43:56 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 04, 2024, 12:15:45 AM
I believe that no mustard-based sauce belongs anywhere near anything (Carolina style, from where I'm from). 
I see your days of being wrong are certainly coming to a middle.
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« Reply #2571 on: July 04, 2024, 07:44:34 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 04, 2024, 12:15:45 AM
I believe that no mustard-based sauce belongs anywhere near anything (Carolina style, from where I'm from). 

BUT pulled pork infused with a vinegar/tomato-based sauce is HEAVEN. 
Rural GA is where it's at.

I'm actually just playing around a little bit, I know this is a popular and common way to make it, and it turns out pretty tasty.

Just my own personal opinion, but I've made a lot of BBQ in a lot of different ways, and for me, I think pulled pork is better without the sauce.  I make mine by capturing the drippings throughout the smoke, and then reintroducing them when shredding.  Keeps it moist and juicy and full of the pork's own natural delicious flavors, without introducing vinegar, which I don't like in BBQ'd meats.
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« Reply #2572 on: July 04, 2024, 07:48:29 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 03, 2024, 08:55:57 PM
No you're completely right,  #1 is the single best BBQ protein on the planet, and outside of Texas everybody screws it up.

Thanks for pointing that out and proving me correct.
Can't compete with pork ribs, which come with their own utensil cooked right in. Can't compete with the Lord.
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« Reply #2573 on: July 04, 2024, 07:49:21 AM »
The BBQ around Raliegh didn't do ribs much, back in the day at least, it was pulled pork and ... more pulled pork, with that vinegary sauce.  It would often be grey in appearance, and not terrible appetizing in color.  A typical lower rent place would serve that and hush puppies and slaw and maybe white bread.

Now I'm hungry and I haven't had my eggs yet.
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« Reply #2574 on: July 04, 2024, 07:51:15 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 03, 2024, 08:48:28 PM
Pork spare ribs are the #2 protein at any Texas BBQ restaurant and Texas does them as well as or better than anywhere else.  It's pulled pork that other areas do better, or at least more commonly, than Texas.

And all those places that put weird vinegary shit sauce on their pulled pork, suck too.

So, yeah, no-- I'm not giving any region an edge over Texas.
You shouldn’t.

Obviously No. 1 is Texas. And No. 2 is people who learned in Texas and carry the style elsewhere. Obviously you get variations in level of quality, but some good stuff there. 

I tend to prefer SC after that, in part because they build a better complete meal than everyone else and do pork well (also, they tend to roll out a big tent Re: sauce, and I like the choices)

I enjoy a bit of the vinegar sauce. But NC chops their pork, which is bad, and insists on a range of sides that are, pardon my language, flat bullshit.
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« Reply #2575 on: July 04, 2024, 07:56:00 AM »
I got used to eastern NC BBQ when I was there, just as I got used to Cincy chili when I was there.  I like nearly everything (not liver).  

There is a place on the NC/SC coast where a small town has something like 20 seafood restaurants, all clustered together called Calabash.  If you're every going by you should stop.  That is the best fried seafood I've ever had, and we do stop there if we're anywhere close.

There is a place near there called Big Nell's Truck Stop that is also superb, hole in the wall, without a wall.  It may be closed now, don't know.
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