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847badgerfan

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Paul Chryst
« on: November 19, 2017, 07:23:10 PM »
I was thinking (dangerous).

When does PC start to get recognition as being among the best coaches in NCAA football? I noticed during the game yesterday the announcers fawning over Harbaugh and the TV showing his mug over and over and over again.

PC is a better coach, to anyone paying attention. He built a fantastic staff and that group has built a winner, top to bottom. They graduate their kids. They are humble to a fault. They love where they are.

So, when??
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2017, 07:26:19 PM »
Never heard of her J/K who do you think he is Kirk Ferentz?
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2017, 07:28:15 PM »
Agree totally Badge.  He has been great from day one.  Consistent, humble, and doing it without the 4-5 stars.

He is the kind of coach I would want my kid to play for.   
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2017, 07:55:32 PM »

He seems like he'd rather stay humble, and fly under the radar. 

Keeps the team hungry, always fighting. 
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2017, 08:11:04 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 19, 2017, 07:23:10 PM
I was thinking (dangerous).

When does PC start to get recognition as being among the best coaches in NCAA football? I noticed during the game yesterday the announcers fawning over Harbaugh and the TV showing his mug over and over and over again.

PC is a better coach, to anyone paying attention. He built a fantastic staff and that group has built a winner, top to bottom. They graduate their kids. They are humble to a fault. They love where they are.

So, when??
Well, you half answer your own question with the humble to a fault part. 
But I think the answer is more complicated. The hype comes from doing one of two things, reaching heights or saving programs from bad spots. Chryst hasn't yet won a conference title. He hasn't come to a downtrodden program and jumpstarted it (left Pitt early). 
For better or worse, he's seen as the perfect cog in the Wisconsin machine. He took took over a program where the past two coaches won 73.1 and 73.9 percent of their games and went on to win 23.3 and 46.8 percent of their games at the next job. I hope to never find out if PC is just a cog or not. I want that machine humming with him at the helm. 
And the other part is that PC's best tenets are more subtle. He's a gifted tactician, but you have to know what you're looking at. The way he uses motions, sets things up, the way he installs passing games complex for the college level and gets them going, all that is cool. But it doesn't pop the same as some hyper-quirky scheme or big rebuilding project. Win the conference a time or two, or just get a few more 10-plus win years under the belt, and it'll happen. 
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2017, 08:45:22 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 19, 2017, 07:23:10 PM
PC is a better coach, to anyone paying attention.

This is absolute bs and prisoner of the moment over-reaction. Better coach than Harbaugh? I like PC a lot and Harbaugh has his faults, but c'mon. GTFO. Harbaugh has accomplished more in a longer head coaching career.

Chryst gets plenty of credit for the little he has accomplished. Which isn't much. He's having a great year, but he hasn't really done anything yet in his short coaching career.

Pittsburgh was a 6-7 program the year before he got there and he went 6-7, 7-6, 6-6. Didn't turn it around, just kept it at right around .500.

He took over a Wisconsin program that was 11-3 the year before he got there and has been a model of consistency for 20+ years, and went 10-3 his first year. He's 11-0 with the weakest schedule of any major P5 team in the nation. We'll see if he finishes the job by winning the B1G CCG against Ohio State.
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2017, 09:04:56 PM »
^^^ Exhibit A.


He's 11-0 with the weakest schedule of any major P5 team in the nation.



According to Sagarin, UW's schedule ranks 55. Michigan's is 45 due a boost from yesterday. 


Bama's is 63. Washington is 58. LSU is 57. Colley ranks are similar. AH are similar. And on and on.


A pattern is developing?? Quit while you're behind, perhaps?
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2017, 10:19:36 AM »
Well, we've still got a few weeks to go, but I would think that he has the BCOY wrapped up at this point, does he not?  I would think that would be a step in the right direction for the recognition you are looking for.
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2017, 10:55:13 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 19, 2017, 09:04:56 PM
^^^ Exhibit A.


He's 11-0 with the weakest schedule of any major P5 team in the nation.



According to Sagarin, UW's schedule ranks 55. Michigan's is 45 due a boost from yesterday.


Bama's is 63. Washington is 58. LSU is 57. Colley ranks are similar. AH are similar. And on and on.


A pattern is developing?? Quit while you're behind, perhaps?
This Wisconsin team has gotten plenty of comparisons to '15 Iowa, but there are quite a few differences.
'17 Wisconsin isn't just winning, it's winning convincingly.  I don't think they've beaten anyone by fewer than two scores so far.  '15 Iowa eked out win after win after win.  And to be honest, they probably had no business beating Wisconsin that year.  They lucked out with some timely turnovers.
And for the record, '17 Wisconsin would do to '15 Iowa what Stanford did in the Rose Bowl.
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2017, 10:59:32 AM »
Quote from: grillrat on November 20, 2017, 10:19:36 AM
Well, we've still got a few weeks to go, but I would think that he has the BCOY wrapped up at this point, does he not?  I would think that would be a step in the right direction for the recognition you are looking for.
I'm guessing the award will go to Dantonio. This season for UW was kinda expected. MSU's was not. But that's OK.

COTY awards are nice and all that, but Urban has never won one (at least I don't think he has).
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2017, 11:03:58 AM »
The last OSU coach to win it was Earle Bruce, 1979. 
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2017, 11:50:41 AM »
I guess OSU coaches are ineligible due to undefeated expectations every year?
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2017, 12:47:03 PM »
It's an award for the tallest midget.

Doesn't matter if OSU follows 6-7 with 12-0, or wins a NC with their third string QB. They are simply not eligible for the award. 
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2017, 12:58:10 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 20, 2017, 12:47:03 PM
It's an award for the tallest midget.

Doesn't matter if OSU follows 6-7 with 12-0, or wins a NC with their third string QB. They are simply not eligible for the award.
It's an award for the team that most exceeds expectations.  When you always have the most talent, it's tough the exceed them.

I do think Meyer should have won it in 2014.  That one was weird.  Jerry Kill went 8-5 for the second year in a row.

The whole Cardale Jones thing is irrelevant though.  That award is named before the CCG, so Cardale hadn't won a game yet, let alone a national championship.  I'm guessing it would have been different if it had.
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