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MaximumSam

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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2017, 01:01:02 PM »
It is a weird award.  "We have to think you suck and your team sucks and if we are wrong you get an award."

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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2017, 01:24:31 PM »
Jeff Brohm deserves some serious consideration for B1G COTY, especially if he wins the bucket back this week.

Funny thing is that it's the defense that has been the most impressive.

Purdue is giving up 19 ppg in B1G play this year, after giving up 42 ppg in B1G play last year.  The Boilers are currently #3 in scoring defense in conference play, after finishing dead last a season ago.

If it holds up against Indiana, it will go down as the biggest single season turnaround in points given up in conference games since Tulane in 01-02.

This is also the first time Purdue has held three straight opponents under 100 yards rushing since 2004.

Hazell only won 3 B1G games total in his 4 (ish) seasons.  Brohm has won 3 B1G games already, and his going for 4 in his first season.

Brohm also had Blough at a 137.8 QBR (#4 B1G), up from 119.4 last year, before his injury.
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2017, 01:28:35 PM »
I like Brohm - if they win Saturday and make a bowl that's a heck of a turnaround from the depths that program had been in.

EDIT: This a a decent season for Dantonio IMO, given his standards.  It's weird to give him an award for having a decent season because he had a bad season last year. 
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2017, 01:30:26 PM »
It is a weird award.  "We have to think you suck and your team sucks and if we are wrong you get an award."
Yeah, it's an extension of the everyone gets a trophy times that we live in. 
Basically it's an acknowledgement by the Big Ten that OSU is head and shoulders above the rest of the league, including the other three helmet schools. 
That recognition in and of itself is more rewarding than any COTY trophy would be. 
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2017, 01:34:16 PM »
Yeah, it's an extension of the everyone gets a trophy times that we live in.
Basically it's an acknowledgement by the Big Ten that OSU is head and shoulders above the rest of the league, including the other three helmet schools.
That recognition in and of itself is more rewarding than any COTY trophy would be.
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2017, 01:34:50 PM »
1) harbaugh gets the TV time because, we'll, he's a bigger name, he's more out there in terms of his conference and the dude is freaking weird (mostly in a good way, but not always). but you know you'll get a reaction which makes for good TV
2) I can't believe I'm during this during THE GAME week, but I gotta agree with MDOT. Harbaugh is the better coach. he took a Standford program in shambles and turned it into a PAC 12 contender almost immediately, and he was able to do things like knock off USC during the pete carroll years, which was not easy. he turned around a crappy 49ers team and went to the super bowl. and when he left the 49ers went to crap. there's also a reason virtually every NFL team with an opening would be inquiring into his availability. because the dude can coach. I don't think he's underachieved at Michigan despite what some people would say, but I don't think he's overachieved either. he's basically done what he was supposed to do. plus, I think he's ever so close (1 miracle effed up punt against MSU, and 1 inch short against OSU) from being the UM "savior" everyone hoped for.
3) I would have no problem with Brohm being COY, I think he's done an outstanding job. But he would have to win this weekend to get the award. it's hard to overlook the loss to Rutgers, that would have made them bowl eligible. with that being said, if I had to vote, I go Dantonio. nobody wins more games as a DOG than that guy. The Penn St win put his team in at worst case a tie for 2nd in the east, when they were picked by most to finish 4th.

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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2017, 01:42:06 PM »
I'd be surprised if it wasn't Dino this year. 
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2017, 01:48:11 PM »
My vote would go for Chryst if he wraps up a 12-0 season by stomping the Illini- which is basically a given. How do you not give it to him? I agree with everyone, it's a weird award and Meyer got jobbed out of it in 2012 and 2014.

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« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2017, 01:58:13 PM »
My vote would go for Chryst if he wraps up a 12-0 season by stomping the Illini- which is basically a given. How do you not give it to him? I agree with everyone, it's a weird award and Meyer got jobbed out of it in 2012 and 2014.
Yeah, at a minimum Meyer should have got it in 2012. I can't remember who did get it to be honest. Kinda tells you what the award means to me, at least..

Chryst will not get it. He is only meeting expectations - which is still a good thing.
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2017, 02:06:57 PM »
Chryst will not get it. He is only meeting expectations - which is still a good thing.

that's part of the problem with these awards, I'm assuming Wisconsin have been favored (vegas favored) in every game this year correct? and will be through all regular season games, I wonder when the last time that's happened, if every for Wisconsin?

still, it's not easy making sure you guys show up as the favorite each and every week.

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« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2017, 02:14:41 PM »
My vote would go for Chryst if he wraps up a 12-0 season by stomping the Illini- which is basically a given. How do you not give it to him? I agree with everyone, it's a weird award and Meyer got jobbed out of it in 2012 and 2014.
I think Bill O'Brien winning it over Meyer in 2012 (8-4 with that team was impressive) was more defendable than Kill going 8-5 in like his 4th year in 2014 winning it over Meyer.

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« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2017, 02:33:07 PM »
If Brohm had won the Rutgers and Nebraska games, and won this weekend, yeah, that would be worthy of it.  While Dantonio certainly has pulled the largest turnaround this year, his average has been much higher, to the point where last year is looking like an extreme outlier.  Does that disqualify him this year?  If he had won one more game this year, I bet he would have been in much better shape to get it.

Give it to Chryst.  People expected Wisconsin to win the west, but NOBODY expected them to go undefeated in the process.

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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2017, 02:37:20 PM »


When does PC start to get recognition as being among the best coaches in NCAA football?
when he beats the boat rower for an undefeated reg season, and wins the Big Ten Champ game to get to the playoff, and wins at least the semi in the playoff to get the the BIG GAME
that's when
If he wins the grand prize in a few weeks, of course he'll be seen as one of the elite coaches, perhaps even better than Harbaugh
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Re: Paul Chryst
« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2017, 02:46:51 PM »
My vote would go for Chryst if he wraps up a 12-0 season by stomping the Illini- which is basically a given. How do you not give it to him? I agree with everyone, it's a weird award and Meyer got jobbed out of it in 2012 and 2014.
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