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utee94

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« Reply #994 on: January 05, 2026, 05:58:31 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on January 05, 2026, 05:45:55 PM
I don't think there's necessarily a difference, moreso that we entered the discussion with a specific movie that resonated with the exact life period and identity issues that a certain generation was experiencing at the time it came out. I'd call that a subset of the category "culturally relevant".

Likewise, I think something like Titanic was as culturally relevant as Pulp Fiction in the wider definition of the term, even though the people who deeply loved the movie Titanic and saw it OVER AND OVER in the theaters weren't exactly survivors of a shipwreck... Just like I saw The Matrix twice (or maybe 3x?) in theaters, something I'm not sure I can say about any other movie. Yet I don't identify with someone living in a simulation as batteries for AI... Give AI a few years before we get there, wouldja?!

I see where you're going, but I don't necessarily agree with the distinctions.

I don't see it as a subset of the category culturally relevant, I see it as a pretty important super-factor of that set.

I think maybe a better way to describe Pulp Fiction or The Matrix or Titanic, rather than deeming them to be culturally relevant, would be to call them "highly impactful to pop culture."  Cultural relevance, to me, connotes something other than and something more than simple impact.

But either way, the original assertion that I can't agree with, is that Pulp Fiction has "lapped" Breakfast Club in this capacity of pop culture impact.  In my observation, that's not true at all. 
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« Reply #995 on: January 05, 2026, 06:03:48 PM »
Forrest Gump won Best Picture and it seems more like Breakfast Club. It was a big freaking deal at the time, and certainly a good movie, but over the years they have both kind of faded away as relics of the time. 
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« Reply #996 on: January 05, 2026, 06:05:01 PM »
Yeah, I guess it's really not worth arguing about the definitional aspect. And either way, I'm not going to argue Breakfast Club vs Pulp Fiction because I wasn't of age enough when Breakfast Club came out to really judge its impact for comparison.

But of note to your earlier post... Is it weird that I've never, not even once, watched Singles? 
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« Reply #997 on: January 05, 2026, 06:08:30 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on January 05, 2026, 06:05:01 PM
Yeah, I guess it's really not worth arguing about the definitional aspect. And either way, I'm not going to argue Breakfast Club vs Pulp Fiction because I wasn't of age enough when Breakfast Club came out to really judge its impact for comparison.

But of note to your earlier post... Is it weird that I've never, not even once, watched Singles?


Well it was very early 90s and it was about young professionals, so not exactly in your wheelhouse at the time.

But as I recall you like the alternative rock genre pretty well, and alternative rock-- specifically but not entirely grunge-- is heavily featured in the movie.  The cast is pretty good too.  You might like it.
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Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
« Reply #998 on: January 05, 2026, 06:14:18 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on January 05, 2026, 06:08:30 PM
Well it was very early 90s and it was about young professionals, so not exactly in your wheelhouse at the time.

But as I recall you like the alternative rock genre pretty well, and alternative rock-- specifically but not entirely grunge-- is heavily featured in the movie.  The cast is pretty good too.  You might like it.
Gotcha... So along the lines of Office Space, where in college I thought it was a funny comedy, but then I got into tech and realized it was a gallows humor documentary? 
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« Reply #999 on: January 05, 2026, 06:25:01 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on January 05, 2026, 06:14:18 PM
Gotcha... So along the lines of Office Space, where in college I thought it was a funny comedy, but then I got into tech and realized it was a gallows humor documentary?

Similar, although some of the "young professionals" in Singles, were actually rock and roll band members.  So a little more broad than Office Space, which was pretty narrowly focused on Tech employees and the Cube Culture.  Aside from waitresses and their flair, of course!

And of course you're 100% right on the documentary aspect of Office Space.  In 1999 I was 5 years out of undergrad and firmly engaged in that exact Tech/Cubicle reality.  It rang so bitterly true in so many ways.  It didn't help that much of it was shot in and around Austin, so a lot of the scenery was quite literally from my life at the time.

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« Reply #1000 on: January 05, 2026, 06:42:19 PM »
Song Sung Blue was enjoyable this weekend.   I was a teen and young 20 something during this duos heyday in Milwaukee so the story was familiar to me.  Jackman and Hudson are quite good.  They nailed the dialects. 
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« Reply #1001 on: January 05, 2026, 10:02:26 PM »
I can’t really compare TBC to PF. In 1994 I had just graduated from HS, I was 18 years old, and PF was just absolutely so freaking cool and interesting and unique. Nothing ever compares to it, before or since, except maybe other Tarantino movies, most notably Reservoir Dogs. Breakfast Club….to me wasn’t really all that unique. 

Plus, as Marcus noted, the two are just so different. TBC could have been any of us, a very typical American HS experience.  

I’m glad that some of you really thought a lot of TBC, because as I said, I never really thought it was a great movie. 

Did anyone else find it odd that John Hughes was basically done with making movies by the mid-90’s?  He had a good solid 10 year run…made a few duds…and just quit?  He died young at 59, but he had been out of directing for 10-15 years by that point. 
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« Reply #1002 on: January 05, 2026, 10:03:33 PM »
Singles…there is one that got forgotten about. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it, except snippets here and there. 
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« Reply #1003 on: January 05, 2026, 10:09:36 PM »
Friends was a big event to my generation for a minute , we all watched it in HS and then college. I recall that Seinfeld and Friends were both on Thursday nights, it was a huge deal. We’d watch both and then go out. It’s weird, because I was so sad when Seinfeld went off the air, it was really strong those last few seasons. We watched Friends for a few more years but it sorta jumped the shark and my interest just faded. I probably quit watching around season 4-5, I couldn’t hardly tell you much about the last 3-4 seasons. 
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Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
« Reply #1004 on: January 05, 2026, 10:47:49 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on January 05, 2026, 10:03:33 PM
Singles…there is one that got forgotten about. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it, except snippets here and there.

Skip the movie, get the soundtrack. 👍🏻
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« Reply #1005 on: January 06, 2026, 11:08:22 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on January 05, 2026, 06:05:01 PM
Yeah, I guess it's really not worth arguing about the definitional aspect. And either way, I'm not going to argue Breakfast Club vs Pulp Fiction because I wasn't of age enough when Breakfast Club came out to really judge its impact for comparison.

But of note to your earlier post... Is it weird that I've never, not even once, watched Singles?

Yes.
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Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
« Reply #1006 on: January 06, 2026, 11:12:28 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on January 05, 2026, 06:05:01 PM


But of note to your earlier post... Is it weird that I've never, not even once, watched Singles?

If it makes you feel any better, I've never actually seen Pulp Fiction (though I've probably seen about half the movie in snippet form).  
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Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
« Reply #1007 on: January 06, 2026, 11:14:46 AM »
I saw Pulp Fiction when I was in Belgium.  Luckily the Belgians used subtitles.  If I'd been in France they almost certainly would have dubbed it.
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