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Title: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: nuwildcat on August 17, 2017, 06:12:18 PM
I finally saw Moana on Netflix

- enjoyable movie with great music and some genuinely hilarious moments

Next up on the agenda to watch (also on Netflix): Sausage party
... some people hated it but I have the feeling its raunchy, immature humor will be my cup of tea
:great:
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 17, 2017, 06:59:12 PM
I dunno... What did you think of "The Interview"? Personally, I thought it was moronic and turned it off about halfway through. I haven't enjoyed much of anything Seth Rogen has done since "Knocked Up".

Speaking of a Seth, though, I am kinda interested to see the new Seth McFarlane show "The Orville". Some of his past stuff has been a little hit-or-miss, straddling the line between subversive and moronic, but hitting on subversive often enough to be worthwhile.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MarqHusker on August 17, 2017, 09:37:13 PM
I finally managed to see a non-kids movie in the theater recently. (Dunkirk).   Such a mixed bag, IMO. In some ways it was a terrific film, but it is very difficult to accept and set aside that the POV is so narrowly tailored as it renders the story somewhat meaningless.   I respect the cinematography, though in an IMAX can be a bit whoosy,  the minimal dialogue, the utility of the cast, save maybe one trivial character.  It is just so incomplete, the uninitiated likely walks out of there still wondering what the hell Dunkirk was all about.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Geolion91 on August 18, 2017, 07:53:45 AM
I finally saw Moana on Netflix

- enjoyable movie with great music and some genuinely hilarious moments

Next up on the agenda to watch (also on Netflix): Sausage party
... some people hated it but I have the feeling its raunchy, immature humor will be my cup of tea
:great:

I thought Moana was okay, the music was mediocre.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on August 18, 2017, 08:02:32 AM
Next up on the agenda to watch (also on Netflix): Sausage party
... some people hated it but I have the feeling its raunchy, immature humor will be my cup of tea
:great:
Raunchy doesn't bother me, but if you go there, and it doesn't land, it's just uncomfortable.

Sausage Party doesn't land.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on August 18, 2017, 08:03:36 AM
I thought Moana was okay, the music was mediocre.
Yeah, didn't love it.  The main song (which I think won the Oscar?) was great, but not much beyond that.  But I think maybe coming off Hamilton, expectations were going to be too high.  Hell, I don't know how LMM will ever be able to follow it.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: grillrat on August 18, 2017, 10:00:36 AM

Without the chicken, Moana would have been kinda "meh" for me.


Gonna start binge watching The Defenders tonight.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on August 18, 2017, 10:40:03 AM
Without the chicken, Moana would have been kinda "meh" for me.


Gonna start binge watching The Defenders tonight.
I actually just started on those shows in general, about 2/3 of the way done with Daredevil Season 1.  The downside is knowing everyone liked that show best of the 4, so this level probably won't maintain.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 18, 2017, 12:15:20 PM
Raunchy doesn't bother me, but if you go there, and it doesn't land, it's just uncomfortable.

Sausage Party doesn't land.

I think the same. The same is true of politically incorrect humor. The "sphincter pucker factor" of the audience means that the degree of difficulty is MUCH higher. If it lands, it's comedy. If it doesn't land, it's bigotry. That's a dangerous line to walk.

But yeah, I have found that much of what Seth Rogen has done over the last few years just didn't land.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on August 18, 2017, 12:23:55 PM
I think the same. The same is true of politically incorrect humor. The "sphincter pucker factor" of the audience means that the degree of difficulty is MUCH higher. If it lands, it's comedy. If it doesn't land, it's bigotry. That's a dangerous line to walk.

But yeah, I have found that much of what Seth Rogen has done over the last few years just didn't land.

I loved (and I mean loved) Observe and Report.  Jody Hill directed it, and am waiting for season 2 of Vice Principals, which should be out soon.  Not necessarily for everyone, though.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: SuperMario on August 20, 2017, 11:14:19 PM
Moana was very mediocre. The fact many of us even watched it reflects the many life changes over the years.

I have not watched a truly good movie in quite some time. The last good movie I can remember watching was Sicario.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on August 21, 2017, 07:48:36 AM
Moana was very mediocre. The fact many of us even watched it reflects the many life changes over the years.

I have not watched a truly good movie in quite some time. The last good movie I can remember watching was Sicario.
Which I heard they are making a sequel to, which probably will be no good at all.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: grillrat on August 21, 2017, 10:24:22 AM
I actually just started on those shows in general, about 2/3 of the way done with Daredevil Season 1.  The downside is knowing everyone liked that show best of the 4, so this level probably won't maintain.
Kinda depends.  Iron Fist flat out sucked.  I wont deny it.

With that said, even though that I agree that Daredevil S1 was the best of the 5 products, both Luke Cage and Jessica Jones are good because they have very different "flavors" to them compared to DD.  Jessica Jones is an interesting portrayal because it tries to balance a super hero story with a domestic abuse story.  Luke Cage is very African-American culture-centric (and done very well).  If you appreciate that kind of theme, then you will enjoy it, but if it is not your bag of tea, then I could see how people would complain.

The most interesting appeal of these shows is actually how well they get into the personal lives of the bad guys.  One common theme throughout all the shows is that they try to portray the problems that the bad guys are experiencing.  By their actions, it is not in doubt that they are "the bad guys", but each show has tried to humanize them with various sub-plots that never make you care for them, but at least give you an understanding of their motivations.

Defenders was pretty good.  It is unfortunate in that it was mostly "meh", but there were a few scenes / episodes that were very cool and there was potential for much more.  The ending is a bit open as well, which I didn't like.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on August 21, 2017, 11:45:22 AM
I have 3 co-workers I talk to about these things and oddly each had one they thought was good enough, one that was fine, and one that was meh out of those 3, and none of them matched up. (Jones, Cage, Fist)
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: nuwildcat on January 01, 2018, 05:10:50 PM
The entire 'PopCopy' segment from The Chappelle Show hasn't been available on YouTube since the last time I checked but Comedy Central's FB page just posted it so enjoy (link below)

- easily one of the funniest damn things I've ever seen :57:

https://www.facebook.com/ComedyCentral/videos/10155889178099030/  
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: CWSooner on January 01, 2018, 07:04:36 PM
Darkest Hours is fantastic!

Gary Oldman is Winston Churchill.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: SuperMario on January 01, 2018, 07:15:55 PM
Darkest Hours is fantastic!

Gary Oldman is Winston Churchill.
Good to hear. Have not heard any feedback yet and really excited to see this. 
Saw Molly’s Game Friday. Best movie I have seen in quite some time. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: TyphonInc on January 18, 2018, 01:04:27 PM
Black Mirror any watch this on Netflix? I've watched the 1st 2 episodes and I'm intrigued enough watch another one. 4 season on Netflix, 1st 2 shows have been about unintended consequences with near future tech (VR and microchiping kids.)  
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: SFBadger96 on January 18, 2018, 01:22:09 PM
I loved the first season of Stranger Things, and liked the second season.

I liked Moana. Didn't love it, but thought it was a strong addition to Disney's collection.

I loved Coco, but thought it started a little slow.

Thoughts on the Star Wars saga? I'm among the people who really liked Rogue One, but I know a lot of fans hated it. I also really like The Last Jedi, and that's even more controversial, I think.

I heard Dunkirk wasn't really worth it (essentially for the reason MarqHusker says: it left out the why?), but Darkest Hour definitely is. I look forward to seeing that one.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MarqHusker on March 28, 2018, 08:19:21 PM
The Americans returns tonight.:)
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 28, 2018, 08:41:45 PM
I've watched a lot of Black Mirror lately - some of the episodes are really messed up - in a good way.  Some are meh.  
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: huskerdinie on March 30, 2018, 04:42:56 PM
I hadn't realized quite how much I am set in my ways; I watch the same types of movies and read the same type of books all the time and very seldom branch out into different genres.  I read for pleasure and escapism at times.
 
For books, I read mostly Stephen King, Anne Perry's William Monk series, Sherrilyn Kenyon's Dark-Hunter and Ichidian Universe series, Arcane Society novels (same author with different nom de plumes set in Victorian era, modern, and futuristic other worlds), and Suzanne Brockmann's Troubleshooter series, so I have to say I am mostly into science fiction / fantasy, detectives, or SEAL novels (I admit most of them are romances, but hey I like them and my favorite authors have that touch of humor I really like).

The genres I like in books pretty much bleeds into my viewing choices either movie or TV and thank goodness for HBO, so I watch a lot of:
Star Trek and Star Wars
Longmire, Blue Bloods, Hawaii 5-O
Westworld
Game of Thrones
Rome / The Tudors / Reign / The Originals / Buffy / Angel / Battlestar Galactica / Deadwood / The Walking Dead / Falling Skies

Of course, all my favorite movies and TV series I have on DVD, so I watch whenever I want to, especially those that are no longer airing except as re-runs.  Nothing I hate worse than having to sit through commercials, lol.  

I used to read quite a bit of non-fiction, but I have since tapered off into mostly fiction or watching movies when I take a break from working on family genealogy.  
Of course, the exception to the above is any book pertaining to the Huskers is a must read, lol.  
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on May 15, 2018, 11:32:55 AM
Barry finished up last night - did anyone watch it?  It was really good, and somewhat interesting on how quickly it would go from light natured comedy to dark and heavy.  I never liked Bill Hader much at SNL, but he was great here.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Riffraft on May 15, 2018, 12:21:10 PM
Barry finished up last night - did anyone watch it?  It was really good, and somewhat interesting on how quickly it would go from light natured comedy to dark and heavy.  I never liked Bill Hader much at SNL, but he was great here.
I found it interesting and quirky. It is definitely dark humor (starting now). I think I like it, I am interested to see where they take it.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on May 19, 2018, 08:18:35 AM
Cobra Kai - fucking awesome
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on May 19, 2018, 09:11:23 AM
I finally managed to see a non-kids movie in the theater recently. (Dunkirk).   Such a mixed bag, IMO. In some ways it was a terrific film, but it is very difficult to accept and set aside that the POV is so narrowly tailored as it renders the story somewhat meaningless.   I respect the cinematography, though in an IMAX can be a bit whoosy,  the minimal dialogue, the utility of the cast, save maybe one trivial character.  It is just so incomplete, the uninitiated likely walks out of there still wondering what the hell Dunkirk was all about.
I watched in on a plane and your summary is spot on I think.  But, it wasn't a documentary and included some historical errors of course.  A very mixed bag for me also, but I have no desire to watch it again.
The German side of that story if not completely understood even in serious histories.  I have my own opinions gleaned from reading a number of different historical accounts but it remains somewhat murky.  It doesn't help that Guderian survived the war and wrote a book about it all that was highly biased and supported by Liddell Hart's histories as "truth".
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on May 19, 2018, 09:13:16 AM
A series y'all might like is The Last Kingdom, based on books by Bernard Cornwell, who I'd say is my favorite author.

The books are outstanding and the "movie" depiction is quite good I think.

A new year is about to hit as well on NF.

It has war and women and intrigue etc.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on May 19, 2018, 09:16:30 AM
I spent some time reading up on William the Conqueror a while back and we even traced him in Normandy last summer a bit, went to Falaise for example.  I think his life story would make for a good docudrama kind of thing.

A lot of "us" know little about him when arguably he is one of the most pivotal figures in Western history.  Charles Martel would be a second example of someone less well known and who had a huge impact on the course of human events.

And his name really wasn't William of course, but Guillaime, or somesuch spelling.  I have a buddy with that name who is from Normandy, I have to look up how to spell it.

Guillaume it is.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on May 31, 2018, 12:30:28 AM
If there has ever been a series finale as good as The Americans tonight, I haven't seen it
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MarqHusker on May 31, 2018, 12:46:21 AM
Best part was Paige leaving the train.    Garage scene pretty awesome too.

(my wife, not to my surprise, was left expecting more)
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Geolion91 on June 01, 2018, 08:27:47 AM

I heard Dunkirk wasn't really worth it (essentially for the reason MarqHusker says: it left out the why?), but Darkest Hour definitely is. I look forward to seeing that one.
I disagree, I enjoy the war movies that show the POV of an individual soldier, or other character.  I already know what Dunkirk is about, but seeing it from an individual's POV is eye opening.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on May 16, 2019, 01:57:51 PM
Bump.

You're welcome
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on May 16, 2019, 04:26:43 PM
Thanks AAA!

Gotta say I agree with rolltidefan's take on Endgame almost word-for-word.  

I, too, was REALLY saddened by the thought that Tony was now leaving his child, after his was the ONLY life that turned out better after the snap.  I'm sure it hits me harder than it would if I didn't have young children of my own.  But that's precisely WHY it had to be Tony to do it.  Nobody else would have been as gut-wrenching, nobody else would have the same impact. Iron Man had the most solo movies, plus the most appearances in other movies (I'm assuming).  We knew Tony the best of all of the characters. I certainly felt the closest to him. And Pepper had already said it, that they needed to attempt it and make whatever sacrifices necessary, to help the rest of the world improve its lot. She was willing, and ultimately Tony-- the ultimate self-serving narcissist-- was willing as well.  It was tough to watch, for sure.

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: SFBadger96 on May 16, 2019, 04:41:15 PM
I'm cautiously optimistic about the upcoming Dark Phoenix. I like the comic book movie genre, and my favorites are the broken character narratives (so the Dark Knight trilogy and Logan top my list). BUT...the X-men franchise has been inconsistent, to say the least.

Although I'm generally familiar with a lot of comic book story lines, I wasn't a comic junkie as a kid, so this story--similar to Infinity War--is one I'm familiar with, but not well versed in.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: SFBadger96 on May 16, 2019, 05:26:47 PM
Because it's en vogue right now, my list of the MCU, from worst to best:

22) Incredible Hulk: nearly unwatchable, definitely pointless.
21) Thor: totally unnecessary, but was fun.
20) Thor: the Dark World: had some moments of fun
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Getting into the fun movies, but nothing to write home about:
19) Iron Man 2: pulp entertainment
18) Iron Man 3: more pulp entertainment, slightly better executed.
17) Ant-Man and the Wasp: fun movie, but nothing stands out about it. Better than those above just because they kept getting better at making these movies.
16) Captain America: The First Avenger: too campy. I get why, but still too campy. 
15) Avengers: Age of Ultron: fun blockbuster, but seemed overdone.
14) Ant Man: good, clean fun; not much else.
13) Spider-Man: Homecoming: decent Spider-Man movie; great villain.
12) Captain Marvel: Enjoyable big budget sequences; not enough character development for a hero so powerful.
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I liked these movies a lot:
11) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2: silly in the right ways. Good act 2.
10) Avengers: Infinity War: too much going on, but lots of fun.
9) Iron Man: I'm not a huge Iron Man fan, but this film basically created the rest of this list, so it gets extra credit.
8) The Avengers: it was a big ask, but it worked.
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These are all really good:
7) Captain America: Winter Soldier: what Captain American should be like in a modern movie.
6) Captain America: Civil War: really liked this movie.
5) Thor: Ragnorak: really liked this one, too.
4) Dr. Strange: lots of fun, and outside the box.
3) Guardians of the Galaxy: just lots of fun. Way better than it should have been.
2) Black Panther: one of the only villains that I could understand--great chemistry throughout.
1) Avengers: End Game: not the best as a stand-alone feature, but it's not a stand-alone. Bore the burden of 21 other movies remarkably well.

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on May 16, 2019, 05:58:56 PM
guess i'll move this here:

i liked endgame overall, but there's 2 things i really don't like. spoilers below for any who haven't seen it yet.



when cap picked up the hammer, that was amazing... but why could he suddenly control lightning? mjolnir isn't what give thor his powers to control lightning and thunder. that was established in ragnorok. so why does cap suddenly get these powers? wielding the hammer was awesome, but he shouldn't have been given demigod powers.

starks death after having a child... i didn't like it. i don't mind stark sacrificing himself for everyone, that would make a great ending to his arc. especially going back to avengers 1 when cap said he won't make the sacrifice for everyone. but he always had resentment for missing out on his childhood with his dad being so involved in his work. maybe i'm remembering incorrectly, but i thought he felt early on that his childhood was mostly wasted without his dad. then he found that video of his dad saying tony was his best creation and wants him to continue his work. seemed tony's dad loved him and tony finally saw it, but leading up to that and even after it wasn't really the way he wanted to be loved. he certainly didn't want his most memorable act of affection from his dad to be some video. and tony's actions with his own child in endgame strongly hinted at that, imo. tony wanted to be active in the childs life, even at the cost of not getting back the dusted people. at least that's what he said. just didn't like that build up. again, i got no issue with stark sacrificing himself for all, but why bring the aforementioned dynamic into it? also, why is potts the one to say to him it's ok to go? she should be freaking out for him to get better. like shes done in every other movie before they were really connected, and now they're married and have a child and shes fine with it?
wish they'd have let someone else sacrifice themselves so tony can have his happy family ending.
also wish the real hulk would have made an appearance as well. though i loved the professor hulk too.

thor's arc was amazing and hilarious.

the gratuitous all female attack was cool and campy at the same time.

wish strange and cap marvel had larger roles.

after infinity war, thanos seemed too strong without the stones, but i don't have a huge problem with that. the avengers have struggled to defeat much weaker villains (loki/ultron) with much smaller armies, so it's not much of a stretch for them to struggle vs him even without the stones.


Thanks AAA!

Gotta say I agree with rolltidefan's take on Endgame almost word-for-word. 

I, too, was REALLY saddened by the thought that Tony was now leaving his child, after his was the ONLY life that turned out better after the snap.  I'm sure it hits me harder than it would if I didn't have young children of my own.  But that's precisely WHY it had to be Tony to do it.  Nobody else would have been as gut-wrenching, nobody else would have the same impact. Iron Man had the most solo movies, plus the most appearances in other movies (I'm assuming).  We knew Tony the best of all of the characters. I certainly felt the closest to him. And Pepper had already said it, that they needed to attempt it and make whatever sacrifices necessary, to help the rest of the world improve its lot. She was willing, and ultimately Tony-- the ultimate self-serving narcissist-- was willing as well.  It was tough to watch, for sure.


i get that. i also agree tony was the one that needed to make the sacrifice. i just wish they'd have not included the child dynamic.

there was a decent parallel in endgame going back to the first avengers movie. in the first avengers movie, cap goes off on tony about not making the play for the good of all and in the end of that movie he does, though he survives the ensuring sacrifice. and that's why tony made a good choice to make the final endgame sacrifice (because he's redeeming himself/proving cap wrong).

in endgame, tony went apeshit on cap about not being there when he needed to be (can't remember exactly what was said, but basically that). while the parallel fits tony pretty good, it fits cap even better. cap is now redeeming himself for being selfish in his desires and not being there for the team/good of all when needed most.

having cap sacrifice himself does a lot of other good thing too, imo.

i get why they chose him, and i don't really think it was wrong, just could have been better, imo.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on May 16, 2019, 06:28:30 PM
But the thing about Cap is that he is The Man Out Of Time.  He doesn't have any family.  You can see after the 5 years, that he really doesn't even have any friends.  He visits Nat occasionally.  Maybe he sees Sam occasionally too.  But he really has nothing to lose with making the sacrifice, which is precisely why the writers had it be Tony.

Because it would hurt us-- the audience-- more.

It really got to me, especially looking at the sadness on my 11yo daughter's face during that scene, but dramatically it was dead-on the right thing to do.  Just my opinion obviously.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: SFBadger96 on May 28, 2019, 04:28:57 PM
Watched the first Avengers again this weekend. Good reminder that Stark was always willing to sacrifice himself for the greater good.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on May 28, 2019, 04:52:24 PM
Watched Gone with the Wind on the plane, after just having read the book (whilst in bed sick).  Pretty good movie, I can see why it made a splash way back then.  I've been watching more series than films, probably like many here, and find Bosch to be quite good.  I've taken to reading the books on which it was based and find them to be engaging as well.

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: SFBadger96 on May 28, 2019, 05:09:43 PM
Speaking of older movies, I recently introduced my kids to Hitchcock with North by Northwest and Notorious. Surprisingly racy for their era. A little too heavy on the love stories for my kids to appreciate (at least while watching with their parents), but fun movies, nonetheless.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: CWSooner on May 28, 2019, 05:13:15 PM
Speaking of older movies, I recently introduced my kids to Hitchcock with North by Northwest and Notorious. Surprisingly racy for their era. A little too heavy on the love stories for my kids to appreciate (at least while watching with their parents), but fun movies, nonetheless.
To Catch a Thief is another great Hitchcock movie.
Afred Hitchcock, Cary Grant, and Grace Kelly in one movie.  That's hard to top.
Rear Window is another one.  Jimmy Stewart instead of Cary Grant.  Still a great combo.

Vertigo--meh.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 28, 2019, 09:37:03 PM
We're giving Veep a try. 4 episodes in and it's starting to grab us. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: bayareabadger on May 29, 2019, 08:30:50 AM
We're giving Veep a try. 4 episodes in and it's starting to grab us.
You’ve just gotta lean into the most bad people. I watched a few seasons and need to finish at some point. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on May 29, 2019, 08:58:45 AM
To Catch a Thief is one of my favorites among lesser known movies.

We watched A Good Year, again, with my kids who were here for the weekend.  Russell Crowe, and no deaths.

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on May 29, 2019, 11:09:37 AM
I've been starting in on the 80s comedy classics with my kids.  I don't think they're quite ready for Gone With The Wind or Casablanca yet, but they really enjoyed Goonies. :)

Side-note: The PG rating in the 80s meant something different than it does now. There was a surprising amount of bad language in Goonies.  I just sat there and did the "grin and bear it" thing while the kids got wide-eyed looks on their faces, but I have to remind myself that I was their age (or younger) watching many of these 70s/80s PG movies, and I guess I turned out ok.  Heck, there were topless women in some 80s PG movies, you'd certainly never see that now.

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on May 29, 2019, 11:22:23 AM
Heck, there were topless women in some 80s PG movies, you'd certainly never see that now.


Was going to say, I think those were my initiation.  It's rare to even get that in PG-13.  I remember it being a big deal in Titanic
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 29, 2019, 11:46:18 AM
I heard on the radio yesterday that Elton John, exec producer of "Rocketman", actually pushed against Paramount to ensure that the movie was racy enough for an R rating when they wanted it to make it down to PG-13. He said he didn't live a PG-13 life for most of the 70's and 80's, and he'd rather it be accurate.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 29, 2019, 11:47:38 AM
We just watched the comedy special with Steve Martin & Martin Short on Netflix a few nights ago... Very fun. With the exception of very slight NSFW language, it's safe for the whole family.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: SFBadger96 on May 29, 2019, 12:01:42 PM
I am consistently amazed at how different movies were in the 80s (and before). Particularly the depiction of women and people of different races is completely different than it is now. It's easy to rant about political correctness and token characters or scenes, but re-watching the movies of my childhood I'm consistently struck by how narrow the roles for women and non-white characters were.

I know we're not supposed to be political here, and I'm trying to tread lightly, but watching Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, or Goonies (we turned that one off when Corey Feldman's character interacts with Rosalita), or darn near any other hit from the 80s--and don't get me started on Bond movies--it's stunning--and pervasive. And I loved those movies as much as anyone; the cultural shift is remarkable, and much for the better, IMHO. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MarqHusker on May 29, 2019, 01:07:17 PM
I believe Gremlins is credited w bringing us PG13.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MarqHusker on May 29, 2019, 01:09:46 PM
My kids and i just watched Superman and Superman II.  They loved Zod.  All time great villain.  It has some adult language in there. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: FearlessF on May 29, 2019, 01:19:40 PM
I was told to watch Yellowstone, but my cable company doesn't get the Paramount Network

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: FearlessF on May 29, 2019, 01:20:06 PM
I believe Gremlins is credited w bringing us PG13.
good show for it's time
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: SFBadger96 on May 29, 2019, 05:06:09 PM
I believe Gremlins is credited w bringing us PG13.
I had always thought it was Temple of Doom. It seems we are probably both right:
https://www.today.com/popculture/pg-13-20-how-indiana-remade-films-wbna5798549 (https://www.today.com/popculture/pg-13-20-how-indiana-remade-films-wbna5798549)
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MarqHusker on May 29, 2019, 05:18:55 PM
Yeah, Doom was another one that got people excited for a 13 rating.  Can't go yanking out people's hearts like that, kidnapping kids and enslaving them.  I wouldn't let my kids watch that yet.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on May 29, 2019, 10:45:09 PM
I thought Dreamscape was the first movie to be issued with a PG-13 rating, but it appears to have been the second.

My kids liked Gremlins.

I don't think they've ever seen Temple of Doom, but that's as much because I don't really care for it, as anything.  They've seen Raiders many, many times.  
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 29, 2019, 10:59:29 PM


I love the argument that there were no strong female leads prior to the millennium. 

Balderdash. 



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Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: SFBadger96 on May 30, 2019, 12:57:24 AM
Did someone make that argument? 

I didn't. You picked three good examples. But the pervasiveness of stereotyped and limited roles is hard to miss (and T2 was in the 90s, for whatever that's worth; things were changing then--even Belle, the Disney princess, was less interested in Gaston than in books--which was a big change for Disney).
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 30, 2019, 02:55:36 AM
Eh, we're introduced to Princess Leia as a strong-willed young woman...but she still needed saving.  And then in the next movie, she's in a bikini the whole time.  
The social progress for women and minorities is stark.  Thankfully, that was just movie portrayals and unlike real life, am I right??!?!?
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 30, 2019, 07:17:48 AM
Oh brother.

Forget I mentioned it, ladies.

**smiles, nods, backs away slowly**
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on May 30, 2019, 09:18:35 AM
Eh, we're introduced to Princess Leia as a strong-willed young woman...but she still needed saving.  And then in the next movie, she's in a bikini the whole time. 
The social progress for women and minorities is stark.  Thankfully, that was just movie portrayals and unlike real life, am I right??!?!?
Yeah...I was going to say, the fact that you could put basically the complete list in a 3 part image is fairly telling.  And yes, Leia, like female characters before her, was strong willed, but eh?  What did she actually do in A New Hope or Empire, other than have spunk?  She is perpetually in need of rescuing.  Then, in Return of the Jedi, she did finally kill a bad guy, while wearing a bikini.

The online fan boy backlash against strong female leads in Star Wars and Marvel movies is hilarious.  "Aaah, girls have ignored us our whole lives, and now they can resue us too!?!  BOOOO!"
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Mdot21 on May 30, 2019, 11:43:03 AM
Yeah...I was going to say, the fact that you could put basically the complete list in a 3 part image is fairly telling.  And yes, Leia, like female characters before her, was strong willed, but eh?  What did she actually do in A New Hope or Empire, other than have spunk?  She is perpetually in need of rescuing.  Then, in Return of the Jedi, she did finally kill a bad guy, while wearing a bikini.

The online fan boy backlash against strong female leads in Star Wars and Marvel movies is hilarious.  "Aaah, girls have ignored us our whole lives, and now they can resue us too!?!  BOOOO!"
I don’t think people have a problem with female characters being the lead or the hero. 

I think they have a problem with bad writing and bad movies. The new Star Wars movies were both pretty bad to me. Has nothing to do with the casting. Daisy Ridley is great. The writing just kinda sucked in both of those movies. Probably only gonna get worse from here on out for Star Wars as Disney hired those two dickwads who ruined Game of Thrones to write a new series of Star Wars movies.

I haven’t seen Captain Marvel but I saw the new Avengers movie and her character just fell flat in the movie. A lot of stuff just didn’t make sense in that entire movie. Honestly was very disappointed with the movie. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on May 30, 2019, 11:49:40 AM
I really enjoyed The Last Jedi - much more excited for these movies after that one.  Force Awakens was enjoyable but excessively derivative.  

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on May 30, 2019, 12:45:35 PM
I don’t think people have a problem with female characters being the lead or the hero.

I think they have a problem with bad writing and bad movies. The new Star Wars movies were both pretty bad to me. Has nothing to do with the casting. Daisy Ridley is great. The writing just kinda sucked in both of those movies. Probably only gonna get worse from here on out for Star Wars as Disney hired those two dickwads who ruined Game of Thrones to write a new series of Star Wars movies.

I haven’t seen Captain Marvel but I saw the new Avengers movie and her character just fell flat in the movie. A lot of stuff just didn’t make sense in that entire movie. Honestly was very disappointed with the movie.
Yes there were also legit gripes.  But that's why I specified internet fanboys.  There was a large contingent that was PISSED about female roles, which sadly isn't surprising either.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 30, 2019, 01:38:59 PM
The Princess was a far better character than Rey, who has no room for character development as she was already good at everything from the get go. She can fly the Falcon better than Han Solo, even though she'd never left her planet. She can beat Kylo Ren in a light saber battle with no training. What's the point of the story? 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Mdot21 on May 30, 2019, 03:04:06 PM
The Princess was a far better character than Rey, who has no room for character development as she was already good at everything from the get go. She can fly the Falcon better than Han Solo, even though she'd never left her planet. She can beat Kylo Ren in a light saber battle with no training. What's the point of the story?
This.

Just absolutely shit writing that gives very little for a very good actress in Daisy Ridley to work with and does her no justice. She’s a really good actress that is playing a character that’s as empty as a Kardashian’s brain. And it almost works, just because she’s that good. Doesn’t work though, because as good as any actor or actress is- at the end of the day they are only as good as the writing allows them to be.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on May 30, 2019, 03:24:36 PM
I don't think anyone disagrees
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: FearlessF on May 30, 2019, 03:39:15 PM
absolutely shit writing is why I don't watch movies or TV shows
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on May 30, 2019, 04:37:37 PM
There are occasional good movies and TV shows.  But you definitely have to dig for them.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on May 30, 2019, 05:00:22 PM
There are occasional good movies and TV shows.  But you definitely have to dig for them.
I actually don't think TV writing has ever been better.  Really not even close.  Movies...eh...  Feels like everything is an art house production or a superhero movie.  Just look at the Best Picture nominations.  It feels like the mass appeal "films" (as opposed to movies, for lack of a better word) have disappeared.  We always try to watch all of the Best Picture/Actor/Actress movies, and each year I've even heard of, let alone know people who have seen, the nominated pictures.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on May 30, 2019, 06:00:28 PM


I haven’t seen Captain Marvel but I saw the new Avengers movie and her character just fell flat in the movie. A lot of stuff just didn’t make sense in that entire movie. Honestly was very disappointed with the movie.
it's a fun movie, but the writing is once again a problem. and like most super hero movies/comics, they make her way to powerful only to nerf her powers a month later in endgame. but it's a superhero movie, if you're looking for anything more than a fun movie you're gonna be disappointed.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on May 30, 2019, 06:01:13 PM
anyone watch chernobyl? it's pretty good so far. i'm a couple episodes behind, but really enjoying it. stellan skarsgard and jared harris are 2 of my favorite actors. emily watson puts in a strong showing as well. her character is definitely a badass.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on May 30, 2019, 06:14:46 PM
Eh, we're introduced to Princess Leia as a strong-willed young woman...but she still needed saving.  And then in the next movie, she's in a bikini the whole time. 
The social progress for women and minorities is stark.  Thankfully, that was just movie portrayals and unlike real life, am I right??!?!?
tbf, han and luke both needed saving multiple times throughout those movies as well.

but the bikini thing... yeah.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on May 30, 2019, 06:48:55 PM
anyone watch chernobyl? it's pretty good so far. i'm a couple episodes behind, but really enjoying it. stellan skarsgard and jared harris are 2 of my favorite actors. emily watson puts in a strong showing as well. her character is definitely a badass.
I'm 3 episodes in.  It's very good, and I've loved Jared Harris back to his Fringe days.  But I've heard people go a little overboard on their love for it.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on May 30, 2019, 06:55:44 PM
Fringe is a show I loved. I got about 5 seasons in and life happened and I lost track of it. Need to go finish it.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 30, 2019, 07:11:59 PM
Never thought I'd see a board full of dudes bellyaching about a bikini. Of course being even farther to the left than Hollyweird is a pretty impressive feat to have pulled off.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 30, 2019, 08:40:59 PM
Never thought I'd see a board full of dudes bellyaching about a bikini. Of course being even farther to the left than Hollyweird is a pretty impressive feat to have pulled off.
This is where the line is crossed and anything said in response to this is going to look like we're falling off a political cliff. 
So 1, thanks for that. 
2, if so many people seem so far left, maybe it's because the right has hypersped itself away from the middle these last couple of decades.
3 - the bikini thing is akin to the larger issue of women becoming big in Hollywood.  You can google almost any 'new to you' actress that your'e impressed with, and about 90% of them have been topless or nude in an earlier, smaller movie...because they virtually had to.  Do that for your favorite male actors, and you'll be searching for a good, long while to find any.  



Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MarqHusker on May 30, 2019, 08:41:08 PM
I really don't have any expectations for the return of Deadwood (the movie) but it will be more than satisfying to see the cast together again (with two understandable exceptions).
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 30, 2019, 08:54:48 PM
This is where the line is crossed and anything said in response to this is going to look like we're falling off a political cliff. 
So 1, thanks for that. 
2, if so many people seem so far left, maybe it's because the right has hypersped itself away from the middle these last couple of decades.
3 - the bikini thing is akin to the larger issue of women becoming big in Hollywood.  You can google almost any 'new to you' actress that your'e impressed with, and about 90% of them have been topless or nude in an earlier, smaller movie...because they virtually had to.  Do that for your favorite male actors, and you'll be searching for a good, long while to find any. 





Yeesh, I said it was impressive. 

Homogeneous group think isn't for me, but you do you.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on May 30, 2019, 09:30:04 PM
Fringe is a show I loved. I got about 5 seasons in and life happened and I lost track of it. Need to go finish it.
The ending was very weak.  The last season was totally unnecessary and just made everything convoluted.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on May 30, 2019, 09:45:24 PM
I actually don't think TV writing has ever been better.  Really not even close.  Movies...eh...  Feels like everything is an art house production or a superhero movie.  Just look at the Best Picture nominations.  It feels like the mass appeal "films" (as opposed to movies, for lack of a better word) have disappeared.  We always try to watch all of the Best Picture/Actor/Actress movies, and each year I've even heard of, let alone know people who have seen, the nominated pictures.
I'm actually the opposite, I think there are plenty of great movies.

I can count on one hand the number of TV shows I've thought were "great" in the past ten years.  Everyone points to the cable (non OTA network) shows as the examples of "great ones" and I just don't see it.  Game of Thrones is certainly a valid example, it had 5 great seasons and a few average ones, and even season 8 was better than anything else I've watched on TV in a decade.  Beyond that, even on HBO and the various streaming services, the majority of what I see is a bunch of meh. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on May 31, 2019, 06:51:08 AM
I really soured on the Oscars this past year.  Bohemian Rhapsody was a Lifetime movie with Queen music.  The Green Book was enjoyable but hardly earth shattering.  I'm not sure why those movies were nominated at all.  
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Briguy on June 09, 2019, 09:25:53 AM
GOT
Breaking Bad
Stranger Things
Ozark
Punisher and Daredevil are amazing
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on June 11, 2019, 04:16:29 AM
I may have to give Ozark another look.  I tried it and got bored and quit.

I found a Bosch series I had missed somehow and enjoyed watching Season 4.  I now have read most of the books, all the ones the library had.  The TV series has some interesting twists and changes relative to the books.  I enjoy both.

I'm reading a history entitled "Salt" now, which is informative but not terribly well written IMHO, it's OK.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Riffraft on June 11, 2019, 10:56:48 AM
I may have to give Ozark another look.  I tried it and got bored and quit.

I found a Bosch series I had missed somehow and enjoyed watching Season 4.  I now have read most of the books, all the ones the library had.  The TV series has some interesting twists and changes relative to the books.  I enjoy both.

I'm reading a history entitled "Salt" now, which is informative but not terribly well written IMHO, it's OK.

I have enjoyed Ozark and am waiting for the new season. I am kind of forced to watch it, it is one of the show that my nephew does the music editing, though there are a number of other shows that he works on and has worked on that I wouldn't watch like Mozart in the Jungle.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MarqHusker on June 11, 2019, 12:14:31 PM
I've begun to lose interest in Ozark.  Characters just arent very complex or that interesting to me anymore.  My wife likes it and Bloodlines. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Briguy on June 11, 2019, 12:23:51 PM
Favorite sports movies. 

1. For love of the game. 
2. Warrior. 
3 Hoosiers
4. One on One. Not sure how many people have seen this. Old basketball movie with Robbie Benson. Very hard to find Fantastic
5. The Natural
6. Take Down. Another fantastic very hard to find movie
7. Remember the Titans
8. Bull Durham
9. Vision Quest
10. All the Rocky’s 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 11, 2019, 12:27:16 PM
Welcome, Briguy.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on June 11, 2019, 12:42:15 PM
Sports movies I liked that were decent but not great movies:

Major League (both)
The Replacements
Mystery Alaska (this is close to being a great movie I think)
Bang the Drum Slowly (No, probably the worst sports movie ever)
Cinderella Man
Million Dollar Baby (devastating ending)
Rudy
Friday Night Lights (I liked the series better than the movie)
A League of their Own
White Men Can't Jump
Caddyshack
Tin Cup
The Rookie
Brian's Song
Cool Runnings
Breaking Away
The Longest Yard
Raging Bull
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: CWSooner on June 11, 2019, 01:01:24 PM
Seabiscuit
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on June 11, 2019, 01:03:45 PM
https://www.vulture.com/article/best-sports-movies-ever.html (https://www.vulture.com/article/best-sports-movies-ever.html)
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: CWSooner on June 11, 2019, 01:28:12 PM
https://www.vulture.com/article/best-sports-movies-ever.html (https://www.vulture.com/article/best-sports-movies-ever.html)
Re #50, there's been some historian push-back against the "Ty Cobb was an awful human being" story line.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: SFBadger96 on June 11, 2019, 04:08:11 PM
Really good sports movies from my perspective:
Agree on Mystery, Alaska. That's lots of fun.
Miracle was really well done, capturing hockey for people who aren't hockey fans.
Seabiscuit: yup, good movie.
Rocky. Not the sequels, which were popcorn blockbusters, but the original, which is truly a great movie.
Breaking Away
The Million Dollar Baby
Chariots of Fire
Bull Durham
(Full disclosure, I've never seen Raging Bull.)


And then a whole bunch more that are lots of fun, but probably not great movies, adding to the lists above:
Slap Shot (the king of hockey movies for hockey players)
Talladega Nights
Cars
The Natural
Happy Gilmore
Dodgeball


And then there are the documentaries:
A Sunday in Hell
Hoop Dreams
Do You Believe in Miracles
The Endless Summer


Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on June 11, 2019, 04:09:57 PM
Heh, this was the OT tourney many moons ago.  Maybe 2011?
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Briguy on June 11, 2019, 05:36:42 PM
Welcome, Briguy.
Thank you sir!
just a long time Buckeye fan that loves movie and football fellowship! 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on June 11, 2019, 05:51:03 PM
Some good ones mentioned.  I also enjoyed North Dallas Forty and Semi Tough back in the day.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: CWSooner on June 11, 2019, 10:41:58 PM
Some good ones mentioned.  I also enjoyed North Dallas Forty and Semi Tough back in the day.
I couldn't get past my disappointment that neither of those were as good as the books that inspired them.  If I hadn't read the books, I probably would have liked them a lot more than I did.
SFBadger mentioned The Endless Summer upthread.  It's been a long time since I have thought about it.  That was a great one.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: FearlessF on June 11, 2019, 10:55:26 PM
I read "North Dallas Forty" in my youth
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on June 11, 2019, 11:12:57 PM
It was a great book but I enjoyed the movie just as well.

And I liked North Dallas Forty but Peter Gent's best book, in my opinion, was The Franchise.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: FearlessF on June 11, 2019, 11:25:09 PM
movie was great

I think I also read "the franchise"
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 12, 2019, 11:03:11 PM
I just watched the entirety of Breaking Bad, finally.  Very good.  5 seasons...halfway through the 3rd season, I'm wondering how they're going to do another season and a half, but they explored further down the path of how things might go than most shows would have, imo.  


I was excited that Broken Mirror had "new episodes"....uh, no, 3 new episodes isn't okay with me.  I'm thinking a full new season.  And the first one was with Miley Cyrus.  Ugh.  Nevermind.


Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: SFBadger96 on August 12, 2019, 12:26:16 PM
Watched Spider-Man Far From Home with my boy this weekend. Enjoyed it. It takes itself a little less seriously than the Avengers, while offering a denouement to that series. It also elevates Spidey back to where I picture him as more or less the king of the Marvel heroes. Has flaws, of course, but good clean fun.

Also, you know this scene in Office Space:
https://youtu.be/XASNM1XEQPs (https://youtu.be/XASNM1XEQPs) 

I feel a little like him right now as I'm reading The Hate You Give, watching "Dear White People" on Netflix on my commute, and using my Beats Pro Detox models to hear it (got them free as a work bonus).
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 25, 2021, 11:18:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAiyO8oEG4E
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: GopherRock on October 26, 2021, 04:12:05 PM
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings is still in theaters 8 weeks after release. Mrs. and I saw it Friday night and loved it. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on October 26, 2021, 04:18:07 PM
My 12yo wants to see it. This coming weekend is crazy busy but if it's still around in theaters, maybe we'll do it next weekend.

Also really want to see The Eternals, and Dune (as we've discussed on some other thread that I guess is not the Movies thread).
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 26, 2021, 04:31:19 PM
A guy I know locally apparently put himself on all sort of "test screening" lists for upcoming movies, where he gets to see movies early as a focus group. 

He recently got to see Thirteen Lives, a movie coming out in 2022, about a junior soccer team that ended up being stuck in a cave in Thailand for 18 days, and the massive rescue effort to get them out safely. He says it was absolutely a MUST SEE movie when it's released. Directed by Ron Howard.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: GopherRock on October 26, 2021, 04:40:12 PM
My 12yo wants to see it. This coming weekend is crazy busy but if it's still around in theaters, maybe we'll do it next weekend.

Also really want to see The Eternals, and Dune (as we've discussed on some other thread that I guess is not the Movies thread).

Not sure how things are in CenTex, but the theater was almost full at our showing. Almost everyone was of Asian descent.

Never got into Dune.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on October 26, 2021, 04:42:13 PM
My 12yo wants to see it. This coming weekend is crazy busy but if it's still around in theaters, maybe we'll do it next weekend.

Also really want to see The Eternals, and Dune (as we've discussed on some other thread that I guess is not the Movies thread).

you can see Dune online stream on HBOMax

Watched it yesterday 

not a big fan but thats probably cause Im a picky old man
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 26, 2021, 11:05:17 PM
I started Dune last night, but meh.  Why is it a thing?  Seems like dusty Star Wars.
If I go to a theater, I'll watch the new Bond film.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on October 27, 2021, 09:56:05 AM
Not sure how things are in CenTex, but the theater was almost full at our showing. Almost everyone was of Asian descent.

Never got into Dune.
Theaters are wide open and populated here. They've been open for over a year, but with no content, not very busy.  Now that there's new content, they're quite busy.  Theater was 100% full when we went to see Black Widow a couple months back.




you can see Dune online stream on HBOMax

Watched it yesterday

not a big fan but thats probably cause Im a picky old man

Don't have HBO Max but it's a movie I'd go to the theater for, anyway.  
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on October 27, 2021, 11:30:19 AM
Ha, I've reached the point where I'm mad that any movie isn't available streaming immediately.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on October 27, 2021, 11:38:18 AM
Ha, I've reached the point where I'm mad that any movie isn't available streaming immediately.
It's possible you hate people even more than I do. ;)

For me, I like to see the "big" movies on the big screen.  Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, superhero movies, big sci fi movies like Dune-- I prefer the theater experience for those.

Indie films, romcoms, or whatever-- those are fine at the house. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on October 27, 2021, 11:45:18 AM
I saw Dune on HBO and was sort of meh about it, though I do think it would be much better in a theatre, preferably one of those fancy Dolby sound ones. We watched the new Halloween on peacock, and I can't stress enough that you should not go to the theatre to watch that movie if you can watch it at home.  Also the peacock app is very good, whereas HBOMax is trash. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on October 27, 2021, 11:49:24 AM
It's possible you hate people even more than I do. ;)

For me, I like to see the "big" movies on the big screen.  Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, superhero movies, big sci fi movies like Dune-- I prefer the theater experience for those.

Indie films, romcoms, or whatever-- those are fine at the house.
I sort of agree, but I also don't mind not going one bit.  Since we had kids (2013), I believe the Star Wars movies are the only movies I've seen in the theaters.  So it's not like its a pandemic thing.  I used to go all the time
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on October 27, 2021, 12:03:30 PM
I sort of agree, but I also don't mind not going one bit.  Since we had kids (2013), I believe the Star Wars movies are the only movies I've seen in the theaters.  So it's not like its a pandemic thing.  I used to go all the time

There are typically only two or three of these movies per year, so it's not like I'm going to the theater all that often.

Although, COVID backed up enough of them that I'll be seeing more than 3 per year for the rest of 2021, and for 2022.  

On my list right now over 2021/2022 are:

Black Widow (already done)
Shang Chi (maybe)
Dune
Eternals
Ghostbusters
Spiderman
Top Gun
Doctor Strange
Thor




Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on October 27, 2021, 12:05:44 PM
Meh.  I did like the series Bosch on NF, in part because I read the books (which are superb), and I loved The Last Kingdom, which is coming back apparently with a new one next year.  I also read those books.

I love books.  Not all of them, but some are really good.  I wish I could write like that.

My own writing is an abeyance, which is a town in Ohio I think.

I had a fair number of sales of my last book "Marine Dad" but almost no feedback.  I have concluded they aren't very good, but I can't improve without constructive critique.  I got some excellent critique from beta on my fictional books, and CWSooner.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on October 27, 2021, 12:16:07 PM
I saw Dune on HBO and was sort of meh about it, though I do think it would be much better in a theatre, preferably one of those fancy Dolby sound ones. We watched the new Halloween on peacock, and I can't stress enough that you should not go to the theatre to watch that movie if you can watch it at home.  Also the peacock app is very good, whereas HBOMax is trash.
I have both and not really sure why you say that

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on October 27, 2021, 12:21:46 PM
Meh.  I did like the series Bosch on NF, in part because I read the books (which are superb), and I loved The Last Kingdom, which is coming back apparently with a new one next year.  I also read those books.

I love books.  Not all of them, but some are really good.  I wish I could write like that.

My own writing is an abeyance, which is a town in Ohio I think.

I had a fair number of sales of my last book "Marine Dad" but almost no feedback.  I have concluded they aren't very good, but I can't improve without constructive critique.  I got some excellent critique from beta on my fictional books, and CWSooner.
Perhaps the "Books" thread would be more to your liking, then... :)
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: RestingB!tchFace on October 27, 2021, 12:22:38 PM
I saw Dune on HBO and was sort of meh about it, though I do think it would be much better in a theatre, preferably one of those fancy Dolby sound ones. We watched the new Halloween on peacock, and I can't stress enough that you should not go to the theatre to watch that movie if you can watch it at home.  Also the peacock app is very good, whereas HBOMax is trash.

'Dune' is going to be a split opinion....I think.  Those that don't understand why it's a big deal.....and those that don't think it stayed true to the novel are going to be the loudest.  I've read the book several times.....and hold a very high opinion of it.  My favorite book next to 'Hyperion'.  Going to see it tomorrow in IMAX.  Have high hopes.

Also....you are having problems with HBOMax?  I was casting it to my TV up until about a week ago.....on my six/seven year old chromecast.  And then the chromecast died and I finally got myself a Nvidia Shield Pro.  But when things went sideways (with any app) I just closed out and rebooted it.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on October 27, 2021, 12:26:34 PM
Of all the streaming apps I've used, I prefer the Netflix interface, and by a pretty wide margin.  This is compared to Prime, Hulu, Disney+, ESPN/+, HBOMax, and probably a couple of others I'm forgetting.  I've never used Peacock so can't comment on that.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: RestingB!tchFace on October 27, 2021, 12:26:44 PM
I saw Dune on HBO and was sort of meh about it, though I do think it would be much better in a theatre, preferably one of those fancy Dolby sound ones. We watched the new Halloween on peacock, and I can't stress enough that you should not go to the theatre to watch that movie if you can watch it at home.  Also the peacock app is very good, whereas HBOMax is trash.

Also....I think most theaters are "fancy Dolby sound ones".

And Halloween Kills was not very good.  Disappointing follow up to a really good first movie.  DGG is going to have to step it up for the finale.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: RestingB!tchFace on October 27, 2021, 12:28:42 PM
Of all the streaming apps I've used, I prefer the Netflix interface, and by a pretty wide margin.  This is compared to Prime, Hulu, Disney+, ESPN/+, HBOMax, and probably a couple of others I'm forgetting.  I've never used Peacock so can't comment on that.

I couldn't even tell you what my favourite streaming app is.  Because everything is superior to the garbage that is Amazon Prime Video.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: FearlessF on October 27, 2021, 12:50:30 PM
I don't have a streaming app, but I'm old
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on October 27, 2021, 12:55:21 PM
I couldn't even tell you what my favourite streaming app is.  Because everything is superior to the garbage that is Amazon Prime Video.
paramount+ (cbs app) is by far the worst.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on October 27, 2021, 01:02:30 PM

Quote
Also....you are having problems with HBOMax? 
Yes. I used to have my subscription through Amazon, but they had a tiff so I had to go through them directly. Then things wouldn't play at all. I complained and they sent me a laundry list of things to try. Eventually, like weeks later, I got it working, but I also cancelled. I subscribed continuously for years, now they will get the subscribe for one month a year to watch the good stuff treatment.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: RestingB!tchFace on October 27, 2021, 01:30:00 PM
Yes. I used to have my subscription through Amazon, but they had a tiff so I had to go through them directly. Then things wouldn't play at all. I complained and they sent me a laundry list of things to try. Eventually, like weeks later, I got it working, but I also cancelled. I subscribed continuously for years, now they will get the subscribe for one month a year to watch the good stuff treatment.

So you aren't using the HBOMax app directly?
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on October 27, 2021, 01:34:36 PM
So you aren't using the HBOMax app directly?
I am now, it was a mess. No issues when using the Amazon app, but you can't do that anymore.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 27, 2021, 02:14:16 PM
I had a fair number of sales of my last book "Marine Dad" but almost no feedback.  I have concluded they aren't very good, but I can't improve without constructive critique.  I got some excellent critique from beta on my fictional books, and CWSooner.
Speaking of which, I need to get around to reading books 2 and 3. I ordered them for the kindle but haven't read them yet. 

Seems that football season leads to me not reading many books... 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on October 27, 2021, 02:19:51 PM
Yes. I used to have my subscription through Amazon, but they had a tiff so I had to go through them directly. Then things wouldn't play at all. I complained and they sent me a laundry list of things to try. Eventually, like weeks later, I got it working, but I also cancelled. I subscribed continuously for years, now they will get the subscribe for one month a year to watch the good stuff treatment.

ok that explains it

your problem isnt with the content but the performance of the app
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 27, 2021, 06:07:51 PM
I don't have a streaming app, but I'm old
You'd save a thousand bucks a year, probably.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on October 27, 2021, 06:17:50 PM
ok that explains it

your problem isnt with the content but the performance of the app
Yes - the HBOMax app is trash. I would be more tolerant if there weren't literally tons of other options, many like Netflix that have been around for years and work well. Some tech guy told me they know it's garbage and are trying to rebuild it. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MikeDeTiger on October 27, 2021, 06:19:17 PM
I saw Dune on HBO and was sort of meh about it, though I do think it would be much better in a theatre, preferably one of those fancy Dolby sound ones. We watched the new Halloween on peacock, and I can't stress enough that you should not go to the theatre to watch that movie if you can watch it at home.  Also the peacock app is very good, whereas HBOMax is trash.

We watched that on HBOMax last week.  I was also kinda meh about it, but my opinion of Part 1 probably rises or falls depending on where the sequels go.  From what I remember of the original movie (haven't seen that in like 25 years), I was surprised at how much this new iteration did NOT change.  Which could be a good thing, depending on the source material.  Seems like usually remakes try to throw a few obvious tweaks in the mix.  

I never read the books, but I forget that b/c my sister did and she's talked to me so much about them that I know a lot more about the Dune-verse than I probably would having only seen the movies.  The original movie and this new one both strike me as almost doomed cinematic attempts, in that there's so much back-story and world-building in the books that is nigh impossible to get across in a movie, or even a movie series.  I always thought Dune might work better as a mini-series, something that could give the story 8-12 hours and really unpack the nuances.  I just IMDB'd it and see that it was in fact a mini-series at one point.  Never saw it.  Will have to find that and see if my theory holds up.  
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on October 27, 2021, 06:30:41 PM
Also....I think most theaters are "fancy Dolby sound ones".

I'm not sure. A come years ago the theatre I used to go to had special Dolby rooms that promised extra fanciness. I do remember seeing the new Blade Runner there and you could feel the gunshots in your chest. But I haven't been there in a while. The theatre I go to now, haven't seen that offered.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on October 27, 2021, 06:45:53 PM
Yes - the HBOMax app is trash. I would be more tolerant if there weren't literally tons of other options, many like Netflix that have been around for years and work well. Some tech guy told me they know it's garbage and are trying to rebuild it.
How are you accessing it?

I use a ROKU and have not had any problems
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on October 27, 2021, 07:05:17 PM
How are you accessing it?

I use a ROKU and have not had any problems
Roku television
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 27, 2021, 07:30:51 PM
Sleeper good war movie on Netflix for anyone who enjoys the human angle of WW2.  Forgotten Battle.   Quite good.  
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: FearlessF on October 27, 2021, 09:16:24 PM
You'd save a thousand bucks a year, probably.
I really doubt it
old men really enjoy saving a few bucks a month
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 27, 2021, 09:19:02 PM
I really doubt it
old men really enjoy saving a few bucks a month
how much is your cable bill?
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: FearlessF on October 27, 2021, 09:26:04 PM
plenty

about $120/month

but, of course I need ESPN, BTN, SEC, FOX sports, NFL network, MLB network, Golf Channel, TBS, TNT
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 27, 2021, 09:35:19 PM
plenty

about $120/month

but, of course I need ESPN, BTN, SEC, FOX sports, NFL network, MLB network, Golf Channel, TBS, TNT
Is that $120/mo including internet, or just cable? 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: FearlessF on October 27, 2021, 09:41:49 PM
just looked it up, it's $100 for cable IPTV

the 50Meg internet is about $60/month
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 27, 2021, 09:50:19 PM
Well where I was, they were going to charge me $220/mo to get the channels I wanted.  I opted for Youtube TV + Netflix + HBO for like $70/mo.  

I guess things may have changed in the last few years.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 27, 2021, 09:52:50 PM
just looked it up, it's $100 for cable IPTV

the 50Meg internet is about $60/month
That $100 is the base price or including all the add-in taxes and services? 

If you drop the TV, does your internet price go up? 

Something like YouTube TV or Hulu Live TV would run you $65/mo all in, and should have all of those channels, plus locals. If you then wanted to add something like Netflix or AppleTV+ or HBOMax or something like that for additional content, you'd have something left over. If not, you save ~$35/mo, or over $400/year. Assuming your internet doesn't go up due to lack of bundling, of course.

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: FearlessF on October 27, 2021, 09:58:26 PM
$100 includes taxes and fees

internet would go up, but probably not $35/month
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on October 28, 2021, 09:13:32 AM
Here in my neighborhood, Spectrum has the prices nailed down so that if you drop cable TV, your internet goes up, because you "unbundled." So adding Hulu Live or something like that, on top of the cranked-up internet service, just takes you right back where Spectrum already had it priced to begin with.

There's no fiber here, so I don't really have any options.

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 28, 2021, 10:33:02 AM
Here in my neighborhood, Spectrum has the prices nailed down so that if you drop cable TV, your internet goes up, because you "unbundled." So adding Hulu Live or something like that, on top of the cranked-up internet service, just takes you right back where Spectrum already had it priced to begin with.

There's no fiber here, so I don't really have any options.
Similar here. I was actually in the Costco and the internet sales guy asked me what I paid for internet. I've done my research and there's nothing viable in my neighborhood other than Cox, but I wanted to see if maybe there was another service or something I'd missed. Because there are no alternatives, my 150 Mbps internet is just over $100/mo.

I told him the only alternative to Cox was AT&T DSL at 3 Mbps download. He was SURE that wasn't true, so he punched in my address.

Turns out I was wrong. The only alternative is AT&T DSL at 1.5 Mbps download. LOL. 

All that said, I've run the numbers. Bundling would reduce my costs slightly for the first year, but then they'd go up over promo cost and I'd be spending more than I am for my total service today. I'd have to sign a 2-year contract for it, and even though promo cost for the first of those years would be better, the total cost over 2 years would be higher than what I currently pay over 2 years, then spending significantly more each year thereafter. 

Of course, it's annoying because Hulu Live was $45/mo when I first got it a few years ago and it's already cranked up to $65/mo. There are tons of good streaming options if you only want streaming, but if you want live TV they've all been getting pricey. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on October 28, 2021, 11:03:33 AM
Here in Houston I pay AT&T $43 a month for internet with a download of 30 Mbps

could get faster but really dont need it

My tv is connected to Dish and I get their full package for $120 a month

I also share a FUBO subscription with my son cause then I can watch the Astros not available on Dish

FUBO also comes in handy when Dish drops a channel due to contract disputes

like whats happening now they dropped CBS so I can see CBS on FUBO

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MikeDeTiger on October 28, 2021, 11:20:13 AM
Spectrum is the only cable game in town where I live too, and we don't want the hassle of satellite services.  But we can get service via the mobile phone companies too for moderately cheaper, with significantly faster up/down speeds (not that there's anything wrong with the speed we currently have).  Talked to a buddy who has been doing this for the past few months and he claims no problems with service interruption, connection, etc.  We may soon switch to that.  

Spectrum internet here is about $80/mo.  Cell service is about $60, he said.  
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on October 28, 2021, 01:59:33 PM
if you're rural or have limited options, look into at&t fixed wireless. only thing available to us was satellite and dsl, neither of which was worth it.

fixed wireless is basically a satellite dish pointed at a cell tower with a dedicated cell line(frequency?) set for internet. it's good enough for streaming live tv and gaming. we've had it for a couple years and love it. it doesn't offer unlimited but we've only gone over a couple times and my kids watch a lot of tv. don't watch in 4k though. and when we do go over it's just another $10 for that month. I think it's either $40 or $50/month.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on October 28, 2021, 02:03:40 PM
We have Dish here, it's part of my HOA along with cable, so I don't pay it separately, which leaves me no choice.  The Dish thing of course drops when it's cloudy.

My HOA looks high but at least it includes a lot.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 28, 2021, 02:11:15 PM
We have great internet here with Broadstar, and I pair that up with Hulu. Works great.

Internet is $40/month and Hulu is $70.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on October 30, 2021, 01:27:45 PM
The best thing about Peacock is that it contains the WWE Network. I don't get very nostalgic about things from when I was a kid - don't really feel much watching old cartoons. But being able to turn on old episodes of WWF Primetime and hear Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby Heenan announcing - heck yes.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 30, 2021, 02:24:11 PM
Wow, I didn't realize everyone lived in a monopoly.  That stinks.
When I scoffed at Cox's prices, I got CenturyLink internet and Youtube TV for all the channels I watch.  I could've gone with either dish service for TV or AT&T for internet as well, in a ghetto apartment.

I guess its one positive to live where all the earth is paved.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: FearlessF on November 03, 2021, 08:29:49 PM
BBC Culture polled 206 TV experts from 43 countries in order to find the greatest TV of the 21st Century – here’s the top 100

In recent years, BBC Culture has conducted an annual poll of film critics, experts and industry figures from around the world to decide on the greatest films in a particular category: you may have come across our 100 greatest films directed by women list in 2019 and our 100 greatest non-English language films in 2018, among others. However, this year, it felt about time that we turned our attention to another art form: television. That's in part because TV has played such a crucial role in many of our lives over the past 18 months, when we have relied on it for information, entertainment, solace and inspiration in equal measure.


https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20211015-the-100-greatest-tv-series-of-the-21st-century? (https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20211015-the-100-greatest-tv-series-of-the-21st-century?)
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on November 03, 2021, 11:34:58 PM
Numbered List!  CD will be delighted...
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: FearlessF on November 04, 2021, 10:05:01 AM
just a little something to stir the pot
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 05, 2021, 08:03:20 PM
One of my wife's friends wrote the screenplay for the movie Love Hard, which just debuted on Netflix: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt10752004/

It's a RomCom, so maybe not this crew's genre, but check it out if you get a chance. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 03, 2021, 12:40:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3FefVVQXFk
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 03, 2021, 07:44:08 PM
One of my wife's friends wrote the screenplay for the movie Love Hard, which just debuted on Netflix: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt10752004/

It's a RomCom, so maybe not this crew's genre, but check it out if you get a chance.
That's Hallmark movie stuff right there!
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 03, 2021, 09:21:18 PM
That's Hallmark movie stuff right there!
Did you watch it?

We cancelled Netflix, so haven't seen it. Apparently it was #1 on Netflix for a while. 

I don't know if it's Hallmark level or decent, but I believe it's gotten decent press 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Mdot21 on December 03, 2021, 09:23:26 PM
is it a bad time to say I kinda hate everything that Netflix makes? I feel like they'll make any piece of shit just to have more content they own on their platform- they just throw so much shit on the wall- they hope something sticks.

Kinda liked them better when they had other peoples top notch content on the platform. I've been missing The Office and It's Always Sunny like crazy on Netflix. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 03, 2021, 09:54:00 PM
Did you watch it?

We cancelled Netflix, so haven't seen it. Apparently it was #1 on Netflix for a while.

I don't know if it's Hallmark level or decent, but I believe it's gotten decent press
Yes.

The chick in it is hot.  
Simple catfish/Cyrano de bergerac story.
That Asian comic is suddenly everywhere I look.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on January 12, 2022, 09:14:34 AM
Watched Stillwater last night.  Really enjoyed it
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: bayareabadger on January 12, 2022, 09:18:37 AM
Watched Licorice Pizza last night. Weird, but enjoyed it. Not sure it would go into the category of something I’d advocate people see.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on January 12, 2022, 09:59:17 AM
is it a bad time to say I kinda hate everything that Netflix makes? I feel like they'll make any piece of shit just to have more content they own on their platform- they just throw so much shit on the wall- they hope something sticks.

Kinda liked them better when they had other peoples top notch content on the platform. I've been missing The Office and It's Always Sunny like crazy on Netflix.
Netflix definitely throws a lot of crap at the wall to see what sticks.  But they have the occasional decent original.

I love Stranger Things, for example.  Looking forward to Season 4.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 09, 2022, 05:47:36 PM
The Razzie Awards have a very special category for this year only...

Worst Performance by Bruce Willis in a 2021 Movie (Special Category)

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Mdot21 on February 09, 2022, 05:55:17 PM
man what a fall he's had. Even Arnold & Stallone have been able to have some success in big movies the last 5-10 years or so. Bruce Willis movies are all straight to dvd now- well straight to streaming I should say as dvds are mostly dead now. Nic Cage is in that same category. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on February 09, 2022, 05:56:55 PM
I watched some of Reacher, it's predictable to the point of being boring.

The next series on The Last Kingdom is about to hit, it has been quite good I think so far, very different from the novels.

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 09, 2022, 06:04:21 PM
My wife thinks the dude in Reacher is hot so she watches it.  I've never seen it so can't really comment.

But I can guarantee you though, that he's no John Stamos.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on February 09, 2022, 07:25:38 PM
He is very large, I wouldn't say he's that handsome, but I'm not expert.  I may watch another episode if I can't find anything worthy, which is likely.  My wife and I watch Perry Mason reruns, they are not half bad.  She's also into Matlock, which really is pretty bad.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 09, 2022, 07:47:16 PM
I find it funny that the book character was supposed to be an imposing goliath, and the first actor to play Jack Reacher was... Tom Cruise. Practically a hobbit. 

But I wouldn't call this dude "very large"... He's only 6'2". That's barely at the range where I'll describe someone as "yeah, I guess he's tall"... 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on February 09, 2022, 07:53:57 PM
He looks large on the screen.  They are using midget actors around him.

It's a really dumb show, but mildly entertaining.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 09, 2022, 09:52:34 PM


It's a really dumb show, but mildly entertaining.
So similar to watching Georgia win the NC for me.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on February 10, 2022, 08:14:41 AM
I watched the first three seasons of Yellowstone on Peacock. But the fourth season isn't on Peacock. I thought I had to sign up with Paramount Plus to watch it. So I did. But no, it's not on Paramount Plus, it's on Paramount Network. Which I already had (unknown to me) through Hulu. But now I have Paramount Plus for a month. Anything good on there?
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on February 10, 2022, 08:17:48 AM
I finally watched the last episode last night.  It's a not well written action kind of series, which is all too common these days, but they could have used better writers in many spots in my view.  Near the end, the bad guys send the hero out to find a fellow on the run with a bad FBI agent to guard him.  So, the hero looks at a map for a few seconds and discerns that the fellow on the run is in Augusta (it takes place in GA but apparently was filmed in Canada, which is a bit odd), near a bus station, at one of several cheap hotels that prices by the hour, and figures out the guy's name he used to check in and knocks on his motel door, after throwing coffee on said FBI agent to get away.

Or something like that.  Why the bad guys would let someone as dangerous and clever as our hero leave is,well, odd.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on February 10, 2022, 08:19:11 AM
So similar to watching Georgia win the NC for me.
The cure for that is not watching of course, but mildly entertaining is a plus.

I'm still impressed with how competitive football games hinge on a single play or 2-3 plays that easily could go the other way.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: TyphonInc on February 10, 2022, 08:29:30 AM
I watched Reacher, and liked it a lot more than the Tom Cruise movie.

The character claims he is 6’5” because details are important.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 10, 2022, 08:53:02 AM
My wife thinks the dude in Reacher is hot so she watches it.  I've never seen it so can't really comment.

But I can guarantee you though, that he's no John Stamos.
(https://i.imgur.com/TAeajLQ.png)
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on February 10, 2022, 08:55:37 AM
I think I watched a few minutes of the Cruise movie and flipped to something else.  The other somewhat similar one with Kenau Reaves however spelled is a bit better.

In general, action movies lose my interest unless they have a great script and plot and repartee, but that is rare.  They usually blow a lot of stuff up and have the Hero mash a lot of heads while dodging automatic weapons fire like a Starwars trooper was shooting.

I was also "amused" that some dude took a crow bar to our hero multiple times, really beat the crap out of him, and a minute later he was bouncing around as if nothing happened.

And some movies are really good for episode one and they make a trash sequel.  
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 10, 2022, 08:57:51 AM
I was wondering about this Reacher thing so I did a search. And this comes up:

(https://i.imgur.com/DvfQBts.png)

So I bought it.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 10, 2022, 09:18:08 AM
Anything good on there?
If you're into Star Trek, then Star Trek: Picard is on Paramount+.  I watched season1 on a free trial last year and season2 is supposed to come out in March.

I thought it was great but I'm a pretty big Star Trek nerd so there you have it.  If you're unfamiliar with Captain Picard from Star Trek: The Next Generation then it wouldn't make much sense.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on February 10, 2022, 10:06:58 AM
Take us out Number One
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on February 10, 2022, 10:12:12 AM
If you're into Star Trek, then Star Trek: Picard is on Paramount+.  I watched season1 on a free trial last year and season2 is supposed to come out in March.

I thought it was great but I'm a pretty big Star Trek nerd so there you have it.  If you're unfamiliar with Captain Picard from Star Trek: The Next Generation then it wouldn't make much sense.
I watched some of it, for some reason never got really into it.  I forget the plot now, I think they wanted money to watch more of it and I passed.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 10, 2022, 10:57:52 AM
I find it funny that the book character was supposed to be an imposing goliath, and the first actor to play Jack Reacher was... Tom Cruise. Practically a hobbit.

But I wouldn't call this dude "very large"... He's only 6'2". That's barely at the range where I'll describe someone as "yeah, I guess he's tall"...
😂😂. I struggle with Tom Cruise in the hero role - I have seen him in person and he is tiny. 
I realize that’s an unfair bias - but the camera work they have to do to try to hide it is so obvious. 
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 10, 2022, 11:01:56 AM
I watched the first three seasons of Yellowstone on Peacock. But the fourth season isn't on Peacock. I thought I had to sign up with Paramount Plus to watch it. So I did. But no, it's not on Paramount Plus, it's on Paramount Network. Which I already had (unknown to me) through Hulu. But now I have Paramount Plus for a month. Anything good on there?
Same.   Yellowstone is very entertaining- albeit a stretch from reality- I enjoyed it.  The last season of 8 episodes could have easily been 2-3 episodes- but they just LOADED it with commercials, being the number 1 watched show on all media ( from what read anyway)

Ozark put out 7 more episodes ( a season I guess).  Again, very entertaining but you can’t compare it to any reality. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on February 10, 2022, 11:02:21 AM
The FNG is "only" 6'2" but he is rather built.

Dude, do you even lift?
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Post by: utee94 on February 10, 2022, 11:02:35 AM
On the other hand, I dig Tom Cruise as an action guy.  I think he does a great job.

I've never seen any Reacher stuff and if that dude is supposed to be 6'5" then yeah I'd have a hard time buying Cruise in that particular role, but in general I enjoy most of his movies.

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Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 10, 2022, 11:04:17 AM
On the other hand, I dig Tom Cruise as an action guy.  I think he does a great job.

I've never seen any Reacher stuff and if that dude is supposed to be 6'5" then yeah I'd have a hard time buying Cruise in that particular role, but in general I enjoy most of his movies.


Yeah- pretty good actor. I just struggle with him beating up 8 guys at once in Reacher. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on February 10, 2022, 11:04:38 AM
Ozark put out 7 more episodes ( a season I guess).  Again, very entertaining but you can’t compare it to any reality.
I watched part of Ozark being filmed from our condo, and when strolling about town.

My wife has taken to watching Matlock which takes place in Atlanta but was filmed in California back in the day.  Any time they are outside it's clearly CA and not GA.

We've been watching Perry Mason which I find surprisingly good, a bit complex at times.  I like seeing the 1958 cars too.
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Post by: MaximumSam on February 10, 2022, 11:06:16 AM
If you're into Star Trek, then Star Trek: Picard is on Paramount+.  I watched season1 on a free trial last year and season2 is supposed to come out in March.

I thought it was great but I'm a pretty big Star Trek nerd so there you have it.  If you're unfamiliar with Captain Picard from Star Trek: The Next Generation then it wouldn't make much sense.
I guess I must have signed up for this before because I did watch Picard. I grew up on The Next Generation so I was all in for Picard, though I was a bit disappointed in it. Though I only about half pay attention to shows anymore so I probably missed something important.
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Post by: Cincydawg on February 10, 2022, 11:08:29 AM
An interesting thing about watching them film is how many folks are standing around, and how long they can take to film what ends up being 5 seconds on the show.  I imagine it's exhausting for the actors, and everyone else who does much.  The infrastructure needed for filming is also amazing, to me, they'll have 5-6 tractor trailers, tents all over, heavy cables running about, and maybe 100 people for each scene doing "something".
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Post by: utee94 on February 10, 2022, 11:17:03 AM
I've been an extra in a couple of movies filmed around Austin over the years.  I agree with you on just how much STUFF and how many PEOPLE it appears to require.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on February 10, 2022, 11:25:47 AM
Ive been watching Boba Fett on Disney Plus

and enjoy it a lot

if youre a Star Wars fan I recommend it
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 10, 2022, 11:56:14 AM
The FNG is "only" 6'2" but he is rather built.

Dude, do you even lift?
Yeah, the dude (based on the commercials) is shredded. He's still only 6'2" lol...
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: bayareabadger on February 10, 2022, 12:09:20 PM
Started watching righteous gemstones. Strong recommend.
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Post by: utee94 on February 10, 2022, 12:09:59 PM
Yeah Boba Fett is pretty good.  I've always hated Fett and never understood why so many Star Wars nerds seemed to idolize him.  But they've actually made me appreciate his character.  Well done, Disney!

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MrNubbz on February 10, 2022, 12:18:21 PM
😂😂. I struggle with Tom Cruise in the hero role - I have seen him in person and he is tiny.
I realize that’s an unfair bias - but the camera work they have to do to try to hide it is so obvious.
This got tiring real quick,ya he's the best trial lawyer after trying.....0 cases but takes down a General in line for the Joint Chiefs of Staff.Hope Sam,Marq Husker,ELA are all taking pointers.He also happens to be the Best Race Car Driver also winning it all after injury,but wait there's more.He also is the very best Fighter Pilot makes the Naval Fliers @ Midway appear as their in crop dusters,the hits just keep on coming I tell you
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Post by: MrNubbz on February 10, 2022, 12:20:41 PM
I've been an extra in a couple of movies filmed around Austin over the years.  I agree with you on just how much STUFF and how many PEOPLE it appears to require.
Pics or it didn't happen and Full House doesn't count
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Post by: utee94 on February 10, 2022, 12:22:00 PM
This got tiring real quick,ya he's the best trial lawyer after trying.....0 cases but takes down a General in line for the Joint Chiefs of Staff.Hope Sam,Marq Husker,ELA are all taking pointers.He also happens to be the Best Race Car Driver also winning it all after injury,but wait there's more.He also is the very best Fighter Pilot makes the Naval Fliers @ Midway appear as their in crop dusters,the hits just keep on coming I tell you

You do realize that Tom Cruise is an actor and he was playing roles in movies for all of that, right?  I mean, he didn't actually do all those things himself.  

John Wayne also was not a Western gunfighter in the 1850s.  He, too, was an actor.

;)
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Post by: utee94 on February 10, 2022, 12:25:26 PM
Pics or it didn't happen and Full House doesn't count
I am somewhere in the crowd during some of these auditorium scenes.  I'm the guy who looks like a very young John Stamos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV_dlulnaME
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MrNubbz on February 10, 2022, 12:32:59 PM
You do realize that Tom Cruise is an actor and he was playing roles in movies for all of that, right?  I mean, he didn't actually do all those things himself. 

John Wayne also was not a Western gunfighter in the 1850s.  He, too, was an actor.

;)
Ya think - hey thanx,the uppity knob just wants the Cheeky roles.Like to see him try Mickey Roarke in Barfly or Christopher Walken in Suicide Kings or Donald Sutherland in Kelley's Heroes.Scratch that last one Cruise couldn't pull that off with God's help
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MrNubbz on February 10, 2022, 12:34:43 PM
I am somewhere in the crowd during some of these auditorium scenes.  I'm the guy who looks like a very young John Stamos.
How about a time stamp ? :29:
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 10, 2022, 12:38:38 PM
Ya think - hey thanx,the uppity knob just wants the Cheeky roles.Like to see him try Mickey Roarke in Barfly or Christopher Walken in Suicide Kings or Donald Sutherland in Kelley's Heroes.Scratch that last one Cruise couldn't pull that off with God's help
I could maybe see him in Barfly.  No way in the other two.  But I'd also never buy Donald Sutherland or Christopher Walken as a young beach volleyball playing fighter pilot.

Cruise did an awesome cameo in Tropic Thunder, nowhere close to his typical Hollywood Leading Man roles.  Absolutely stole the show.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on February 10, 2022, 12:39:24 PM
Yeah Boba Fett is pretty good.  I've always hated Fett and never understood why so many Star Wars nerds seemed to idolize him.  But they've actually made me appreciate his character.  Well done, Disney!


i never hated him, just didn't care. he got like 3 min of screen time in the ot, never understood why he was so loved. i know he was on some of the other cartoons and stuff, which were fun, but he was a huge fan fav way before those came out.

but i have really enjoyed his show. lots of people hating on it, but i thought it was pretty well done for the most part. obvious setup for future stuff.

so ready for the kenobi show. now that's my favorite character.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on February 10, 2022, 12:40:30 PM
futurama supposedly coming back on hulu with a bunch of original cast. hopeful it's good.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 10, 2022, 12:41:34 PM
i never hated him, just didn't care. he got like 3 min of screen time in the ot, never understood why he was so loved. i know he was on some of the other cartoons and stuff, which were fun, but he was a huge fan fav way before those came out.

but i have really enjoyed his show. lots of people hating on it, but i thought it was pretty well done for the most part. obvious setup for future stuff.

so ready for the kenobi show. now that's my favorite character.

Yeah I guess I shouldn't say I hated him.  I was largely indifferent to him.

What I hated was all the fanbois that geeked out over him, for no good reason.

But now they've put a lot of depth into the character and I'm enjoying the show so far. Only through the first three episodes so no spoilers! :)
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Post by: longhorn320 on February 10, 2022, 12:44:58 PM
Yeah I guess I shouldn't say I hated him.  I was largely indifferent to him.

What I hated was all the fanbois that geeked out over him, for no good reason.

But now they've put a lot of depth into the character and I'm enjoying the show so far. Only through the first three episodes so no spoilers! :)
it gets even better
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 10, 2022, 12:49:20 PM
Ya think - hey thanx,the uppity knob just wants the Cheeky roles.Like to see him try Mickey Roarke in Barfly or Christopher Walken in Suicide Kings or Donald Sutherland in Kelley's Heroes.Scratch that last one Cruise couldn't pull that off with God's help
Yeah, I remember Denzel Washington talking about his role in Training Day. He had basically spent his entire career playing the hero role in movies, and he said being able to play the bad guy was very interesting and fun. 

Cruise probably can't play the villain in movies, lest it make Scientology look bad. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on February 10, 2022, 12:51:01 PM
Yeah I guess I shouldn't say I hated him.  I was largely indifferent to him.

What I hated was all the fanbois that geeked out over him, for no good reason.

But now they've put a lot of depth into the character and I'm enjoying the show so far. Only through the first three episodes so no spoilers! :)
palpatine is back for a third time!!!

have i ever expressed how much i hated that? the prequels have their issues but at least the overall story was sound and coherent. the sequels are just a mess. fun, but a mess.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on February 10, 2022, 12:53:56 PM
Yeah, I remember Denzel Washington talking about his role in Training Day. He had basically spent his entire career playing the hero role in movies, and he said being able to play the bad guy was very interesting and fun.

Cruise probably can't play the villain in movies, lest it make Scientology look bad.
cruise was a pretty good villain in collateral opposite jamie foxx.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MrNubbz on February 10, 2022, 12:55:00 PM
I could maybe see him in Barfly.  No way in the other two.  But I'd also never buy Donald Sutherland or Christopher Walken as a young beach volleyball playing fighter pilot.

Cruise did an awesome cameo in Tropic Thunder, nowhere close to his typical Hollywood Leading Man roles.  Absolutely stole the show.
Sorry left out Cruise was the greatest bartender also.Sutherland was good in "The Eagle Has Landed" with Michael Caine and Robert Duvall
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 10, 2022, 12:57:51 PM
palpatine is back for a third time!!!

have i ever expressed how much i hated that? the prequels have their issues but at least the overall story was sound and coherent. the sequels are just a mess. fun, but a mess.

It was dumb, but so was the corner that Johnson painted Abrams into after the 2nd one.

What's baffling to me is that Disney didn't have a cohesive story arc planned for the trilogy. If they'd managed it as closely as they managed the MCU, they most likely wouldn't have encountered such problems late in the creative process.

Anyway, as you say, they're still fun, and personally I like them much better than Eps 1-3 (which I have always been MUCH kinder toward, than the general public).

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on February 10, 2022, 02:56:29 PM
jurassic world dominion trailer dropped today. excited t see original cast back in action. looks of cool looking (and realistic based on latest evidence) dinos. hope story is as good as original jp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb5ELWi-ekk
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 10, 2022, 03:16:26 PM
jurassic world dominion trailer dropped today. excited t see original cast back in action. looks of cool looking (and realistic based on latest evidence) dinos. hope story is as good as original jp.
Original cast? Chris Pratt was ~14 when the original came out lol...
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on February 10, 2022, 06:17:48 PM
Original cast? Chris Pratt was ~14 when the original came out lol...
sam neill, laura dern, goldblum are all in new movie.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on February 10, 2022, 07:51:27 PM
It was dumb, but so was the corner that Johnson painted Abrams into after the 2nd one.

What's baffling to me is that Disney didn't have a cohesive story arc planned for the trilogy. If they'd managed it as closely as they managed the MCU, they most likely wouldn't have encountered such problems late in the creative process.

Anyway, as you say, they're still fun, and personally I like them much better than Eps 1-3 (which I have always been MUCH kinder toward, than the general public).
I liked The Last Jedi, which was really the only positive thing to come out of any of the sequels. The prequels should be cast from polite society and never mentioned again. The Force Awakens was at least fun, if really derivative of the originals. But The Rise of Skywalker is like the end of Game of Thrones. It makes the whole enterprise feel like a waste of time.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 10, 2022, 10:04:49 PM
I liked The Last Jedi, which was really the only positive thing to come out of any of the sequels. The prequels should be cast from polite society and never mentioned again. The Force Awakens was at least fun, if really derivative of the originals. But The Rise of Skywalker is like the end of Game of Thrones. It makes the whole enterprise feel like a waste of time.
I liked Last Jedi just fine as a standalone, but it was quite poor as part of a trilogy.

Johnson retconned and unceremoniously dumped everything Abrams had started in TFA, and left the story a complete shambles.  I loathed the direction he was trying to take Rey's ancestry and in general he just made a giant mess of everything.  Nobody could have ever completely recovered from that but I think Abrams did better than most anyone else could have.  I'm pretty confident I would have hated a Johnson Episode 9 a great deal, so I'm actually fine with how it turned out.

But the fault doesn't lie with Johnson or Abrams, it's entirely on Disney for failing to create and outline a coherent and cohesive story arc for all three movies, before the first one was ever written.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on February 11, 2022, 10:42:23 AM
I liked Last Jedi just fine as a standalone, but it was quite poor as part of a trilogy.

Johnson retconned and unceremoniously dumped everything Abrams had started in TFA, and left the story a complete shambles.  I loathed the direction he was trying to take Rey's ancestry and in general he just made a giant mess of everything.  Nobody could have ever completely recovered from that but I think Abrams did better than most anyone else could have.  I'm pretty confident I would have hated a Johnson Episode 9 a great deal, so I'm actually fine with how it turned out.

But the fault doesn't lie with Johnson or Abrams, it's entirely on Disney for failing to create and outline a coherent and cohesive story arc for all three movies, before the first one was ever written.

i think you're both right.

tlj was both the best movie of the 3 and also severely out of place among them.

i can live with tfa though it suffers large flaws, i enjoyed tlj but a bit confused why significant things changed in it (rey heritage doesn't matter anymore? complete wasted setup from ep7), but tros was just bonkers bad. like they just said f-it, plot's lost, palps is back and super saiyan, snope was the big puppet at the end of yellow brick road, rey and co find the most ridiculous mcguffin, hux lol, rey develops never before seen super jedi power to heal and uses it on the 1 person that's both constantly trying to kill her and the only 1 that can stop her, sith ghost choir (wtf?), and now object teleportation.

you 100% nailed it, though, with that last bit. unforgivable to not have a basic story arc to build on before the first movie even started being written.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 11, 2022, 08:04:19 PM
Talking about being severely out of place.....dinosaurs in snow?

Stop it.

How do you combat dinosaurs being released into the wild in the modern day?  Wait for the first cold night of winter, lol. 
As effective as a giant asteroid impact.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on February 12, 2022, 11:34:21 AM
Talking about being severely out of place.....dinosaurs in snow?

Stop it.

How do you combat dinosaurs being released into the wild in the modern day?  Wait for the first cold night of winter, lol. 
As effective as a giant asteroid impact.
there's fast growing evidence of dinos in cold climates. much of australia was within the antarctic circle during the cretaceous. and that region is richly dense with dinos from that time period. likewise, parts of alaska with rich dino fossils were in the arctic circle during the time those dinos were there too. and not just tiny feathery ones, either, though they were smaller (but not small as we would consider them).

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-dinosaurs-thrived-snow-180976435/
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 12, 2022, 11:54:48 AM
Well crap, there goes THAT plan to save us when the real dinos come back and attack.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on February 12, 2022, 12:03:12 PM
Well crap, there goes THAT plan to save us when the real dinos come back and attack.
i thought the dinos coming back was the plan to save us
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 12, 2022, 12:07:01 PM
i thought the dinos coming back was the plan to save us

Shhhhh, only us smart ones that already have our golden tickets to the giant Space Ark are supposed to know about The Plan.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on February 12, 2022, 12:16:01 PM
many scientists feel that dinosaurs were hot blooded so them being where it snows isnt that far fetched

as long as they had plenty of food they could have existed in such a climate
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on February 12, 2022, 12:19:02 PM
many scientists feel that dinosaurs were hot blooded so them being where it snows isnt that far fetched

as long as they had plenty of food they could have existed in such a climate
that's the thing, the pole climates were great for vegetation. no permafrost in those time periods, rich in moisture, with warm summers but cold, snowy winters. sounds very much like our current climates with dense populations of large fauna.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 12, 2022, 12:21:51 PM
there's fast growing evidence of dinos in cold climates. much of australia was within the antarctic circle during the cretaceous. and that region is richly dense with dinos from that time period. likewise, parts of alaska with rich dino fossils were in the arctic circle during the time those dinos were there too. and not just tiny feathery ones, either, though they were smaller (but not small as we would consider them).

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-dinosaurs-thrived-snow-180976435/
Ehhh.....articles like that are part of why people are so easily fooled nowadays.

It starts off with "imagine a T-Rex in the snow" and then goes on to specify smaller, feathered dinosaurs lived within a warmer arctic circle with no ice caps.
The Alaskan Tyrannosaur they found was the size of a polar bear and thought to be an adult.  
Well, it snows in Georgia, right?

So the mental image the article plants in your head needs to shrink the dinosaur down considerably and the snow it's walking through needs to be a dusting, as the ground didn't even freeze back then in such places.


Why does everything have to be so fucking misleading nowadays?  Oh right, because the mundane truth doesn't get any clicks.  Because the masses are infantile.  

Thanks for the reminder.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on February 12, 2022, 01:15:36 PM
Ehhh.....articles like that are part of why people are so easily fooled nowadays.

It starts off with "imagine a T-Rex in the snow" and then goes on to specify smaller, feathered dinosaurs lived within a warmer arctic circle with no ice caps.
The Alaskan Tyrannosaur they found was the size of a polar bear and thought to be an adult. 
Well, it snows in Georgia, right?

So the mental image the article plants in your head needs to shrink the dinosaur down considerably and the snow it's walking through needs to be a dusting, as the ground didn't even freeze back then in such places.


Why does everything have to be so fucking misleading nowadays?  Oh right, because the mundane truth doesn't get any clicks.  Because the masses are infantile. 

Thanks for the reminder.
except it doesn't really. the article says it was warmer, says the dinos were smaller (even use polar bear size description), and probably usually feathery. but warmer doesn't mean hot.

i said they were smaller, though still not small. i wouldn't consider polar bears, the largest land carnivore today, small. which is about the average size of dinos from what i can tell. and just because 1 dino was smaller cousin of a famous dino doesn't mean all were small. Edmontosaurus is found there as well, which can grow to around 8-12 meters and 4-8 tonnes. vast majority were likely smaller dinos and feathery, but not all.

and georgia doesn't get months of snow like the cap circles likely got even in those periods. no ice caps, frozen tundra, etc. doesn't mean just a weekend dusting. it was still a 3-4 month long, no sun, harsh winter.

no one, not the article nor i, suggested they lived in similar climates to current caps. i was just refuting your hyperbole of dinos can't handle a little snow on the first cold night of winter.

are we likely to see a trex skiing down the slopes? no. but dinos in general wouldn't whither and die at the first sign of flurries. oxygen differences would probably be the larger issue anyway.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on February 12, 2022, 02:38:27 PM
NYT Opinion Doubles Down On Being Dangerously Wrong About AVs (jalopnik.com) (https://jalopnik.com/nyt-opinion-page-editors-double-down-on-being-dangerous-1848508091?utm_campaign=Jalopnik&utm_content=1644445804&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3b8C4j4TP4CWQsfNqRiOUqy8pMjElexAWiI4OxP4AY6pr7D4D7UTwwT4g)
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on February 12, 2022, 03:22:47 PM
I remember reading a book by Robert Bakker - he's a paleontologist who pushed hard that dinosaurs were likely warm blooded. Apparently one of the Jurassic Park movies had a character based on him that got eaten by a T.Rex.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on February 12, 2022, 07:26:23 PM
I remember reading a book by Robert Bakker - he's a paleontologist who pushed hard that dinosaurs were likely warm blooded. Apparently one of the Jurassic Park movies had a character based on him that got eaten by a T.Rex.
He’s the guy that tim (the kid in first movie) was saying he read his book that disagreed with dr grant. 

and in the lost world there is a character loosely based on him. Burke. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 12, 2022, 07:38:47 PM
It's interesting how some people will be wary of modern science concerning an ongoing pandemic can be the same people with total belief in science based off of a jaw bone from tens of millions of years ago.

It's just interesting.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on February 13, 2022, 08:29:13 AM
I find people often believe a thing with scant knowledge of the thing, and no particular desire to learn.

A friend of mine in Cincy wanted to write out Congressman a letter support gun control and she told me she wanted it to be accurate so she asked me questions about guns and crime, to which I responded accurately with facts.  She did not want to hear any of it, and wrote her letter as she would have anyway.  All my facts would be easily checked on line by multiple sources.

A lot of folks believe, or not, in topics like COVID, climate change, evolution, etc. based on factors other than facts and logic, and generally don't want to hear about it.

Confirmation bias.  I think any time something technical intersects with the public interest we'll have that situation, all the time, and emotional reactions, not logical reactions.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on February 13, 2022, 08:50:33 AM
One can support either side with facts on things like gun control, absolutely, but the support would be factual and not emotional and false.  This lady's letter was replete with false information and an emotional appeal (to a very conservative Congressman, so it was moot).  She could have supported her case with fact, but it would have required some effort.  

What I usually see is emotional nonsense and hyperbolic attacks on "the other side".  That really illustrates a common problem, if you try and dig into a topic like this, you can get confused and less certain.  Folks prefer certainty over facts.

Facts get confusing and muddled when all the data are discussed.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 13, 2022, 08:58:14 AM
I also think people leap to the emotional nonsense and hyperbolic attacks when they know the person across from them cannot be swayed off their position.  
Why make a good case when it will fall on deaf ears?  Why put forth the effort to make a rational, reasoned, fair argument when the other side is in 3 year-old I-want-an-ice-cream mode?

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 13, 2022, 09:03:51 AM
The good news is- it is easy to spot when it appears.  The bad news is- we are surrounded by it.

what gets passed as “science “ is laughable. 
You mean what gets misinterpreted as "science" is laughable, don't you?

You may know this already, but
A - science isn't static
B - science doesn't proclaim truth, just the best understanding for the available evidence
C - is contributed to by regular human beings who can be influenced, leaned on, or crooked


Fauci made the call to say masks weren't necessary because he was worried the people who needed them most wouldn't get them.  You can argue either way if that was the right thing to do, but he chose to mislead.

The CDC was influenced by the Trump administration to alter its messaging to the public.  We know this now. 


Those who don't "get" science or are too wary of it's messages think it should all be thrown out based on rare, isolated imperfections.  This is foolish.


What makes science the best method we have is:
A - time.....time reveals our errors and lies
B - peer review....falsifiability, evidence, studies, reports, reproduceable experiments....actual peer review, NOT this silly religious university only "peer reviewing" this other silly religious university


The people who don't have time for what the passage of time reveals and for multiple peer-reviewed studies are a big problem.  You can't speed this stuff up.  Sorry!
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 13, 2022, 09:14:40 AM
Take it to the "In Other News" thread if you must, some folks just want to talk TV and Movies without having to endure lame political hawt takes.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 14, 2022, 12:01:31 AM
So, anyone seen any good movies or TV shows lately?
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on February 14, 2022, 12:10:10 AM
So, anyone seen any good movies or TV shows lately?
I just finished Reacher on Prime

I liked it 

It wasnt fantastic but entertaining
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on February 14, 2022, 12:11:40 AM
Boba Fett has gotten real good

Disney has a winner here
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 14, 2022, 08:25:34 AM
Yeah I'm now through 5 episodes of Boba Fett, it's quite entertaining.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on February 14, 2022, 08:33:23 AM
Still watching Perry Mason reruns.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on February 15, 2022, 02:27:32 PM
I just finished Reacher on Prime

I liked it

It wasnt fantastic but entertaining
i just did as well. really enjoyed it.

if anyone wants a quirky comedy, check out resident alien on syfy. alan tudyk is lovably awkward in it as the titular alien. tudyk is one of my favorite actors.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 15, 2022, 07:05:04 PM
I keep watching The Voyeurs on repeat (Prime).  Not sure why.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 15, 2022, 07:27:10 PM
My i s c & a aggie wife is watching Downton Abbey and I'll sit and watch it with her sometimes.  I have to admit, I don't hate it.  But I'm a theater dork, and boring period pieces are kind of my jam, so...

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on February 15, 2022, 07:33:53 PM
My i s c & a aggie wife is watching Downton Abbey and I'll sit and watch it with her sometimes.  I have to admit, I don't hate it.  But I'm a theater dork, and boring period pieces are kind of my jam, so...


I watched the whole series years ago

It was interesting to me
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 15, 2022, 07:43:55 PM
I watched the whole series years ago

It was interesting to me
Yeah I really like the costumes, the formality, the glimpse into a bygone era.  I can do without some of the more soap opera-y elements but overall I find it pretty watchable.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on February 15, 2022, 07:50:33 PM
I liked the part where it served as a hospital during WW1

very realistic in my opinion
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 15, 2022, 07:54:00 PM
I liked the part where it served as a hospital during WW1

very realistic in my opinion
I read that the actual manor house where it's filmed, was used as an officer's hospital in WW1. So, definitely realistic.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on February 15, 2022, 09:19:17 PM
Never watched it but did see there is supposed to be some kind of follow up series or movie about downtown abbey coming out soon. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 16, 2022, 12:18:12 AM
longhorn just likes it for the way the girls call their dad 'paPAH'
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on February 16, 2022, 05:26:07 AM
The first season of Queen was excellent I thought, and the second bogged down and I quit watching, I'm not sure why now.

The Last Kingdom final season is coming soon.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on February 16, 2022, 09:41:18 AM
love the last kingdom. very good show.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on February 16, 2022, 09:52:46 AM
Peacemaker finishes up tomorrow - I am a fan
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 16, 2022, 09:54:15 AM
Peacemaker finishes up tomorrow - I am a fan
I'm interested but don't have HBOMax.  When the next season of His Dark Materials come out, I'll probably do a 1-month deal and binge it, along with Peacemaker.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on February 16, 2022, 10:00:04 AM
I'm interested but don't have HBOMax.  When the next season of His Dark Materials come out, I'll probably do a 1-month deal and binge it, along with Peacemaker.
Yeah I signed up again to watch the new Matrix and stuck around for a few shows, but I'll probably ax it after tomorrow. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on February 16, 2022, 10:21:11 AM
Yeah I signed up again to watch the new Matrix and stuck around for a few shows, but I'll probably ax it after tomorrow.
new matrix was, uh, a movie. yeah...
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on February 16, 2022, 10:50:33 AM
new matrix was, uh, a movie. yeah...
Definitely not that great. Had some good ideas but just seems sort of played out.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 18, 2022, 06:00:04 PM
There can be only... two?

(https://i.imgur.com/5ZMBVYY.png)

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on February 18, 2022, 07:21:30 PM
Peacemaker finishes up tomorrow - I am a fan
tried watching it and turned it off after about 20 minutes

I realize thats not a fair sample but I just couldnt take it any longer
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Mdot21 on February 18, 2022, 08:15:29 PM
There can be only... two?

(https://i.imgur.com/5ZMBVYY.png)
now who is gonna play Sean Connery playing a guy from Spain who has a Scottish accent?
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on February 18, 2022, 08:20:46 PM
tried watching it and turned it off after about 20 minutes

I realize thats not a fair sample but I just couldnt take it any longer
Did you like Suicide Squad?
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on February 18, 2022, 08:27:34 PM
Did you like Suicide Squad?
yes I enjoyed it
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on February 18, 2022, 08:41:03 PM
yes I enjoyed it
Interesting...well, Peacemaker is great give it another chance
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on April 15, 2022, 02:11:52 PM
I just watched the 1st episode of Halo on Paramount plus

I was pleasantly surprised.  It was pretty good and I enjoyed it a lot.

Special affects was great
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on April 15, 2022, 03:48:37 PM
now who is gonna play Sean Connery playing a guy from Spain who has a Scottish accent?
we could get darrell hammond to play him. an american, playing a scot, playing a spaniard with a scottish accent.

or mel gibson doing his brutal braveheart scottish accent.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on April 15, 2022, 03:51:09 PM
I just watched the 1st episode of Halo on Paramount plus

I was pleasantly surprised.  It was pretty good and I enjoyed it a lot.

Special affects was great
it's pretty good through 4 episodes. kinda slow so far after ep1, though.

anyone else watch space force? on apple tv. pretty good.

resident alien on syfy is hilarious as well.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: bayareabadger on April 16, 2022, 05:06:32 PM
Anyone else watch Severance? Deeply weird, but quite good. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on April 16, 2022, 05:16:22 PM
Anyone else watch Severance? Deeply weird, but quite good.
nope but I will cause I like weird

whats it on
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on April 16, 2022, 05:17:36 PM
Anyone else watch Severance? Deeply weird, but quite good.
I just watched the 1st two episodes of Outer Range

That also is a weird one
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on February 02, 2023, 12:06:42 PM
Starting my annual Oscars movie watch.  Granted having already seen 2 (Top Gun and Elvis) is higher than normal.  I had zero desire to see Elvis, but I actually really enjoyed it.  WAY better than Bohemian Rhapsody.  Still behind Rocketman for most underrated musical biopic in recent years.  And I say that as someone who bought Queen tickets recently.  Bohemian Rhapsody sucked.

Started with Banshees of Inisherin.  Never been a big Martin McDowell fan.  I love the Coen brothers, but he feels like he took the Coen brothers dark humor/dark drama slider, and moved it a little too far towards drama, while still trying to be funny.  Instead, it's just awkward lighthearted moments in a boring movie.

To rate the other two, Elvis was surprisingly great.  And Top Gun is the best movie I've seen in a while.  And I say that as someone who never really liked the original.

I'll update as I watch

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Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 02, 2023, 01:00:01 PM
My vote is for Jennifer Connelly, just because.

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on February 02, 2023, 01:00:10 PM
I Thought Top Gun Mav was great and enjoyed it

I tried to watch Elvis but gave up cause I really didnt enjoy it at all

Not sure Top Gun has enought diversity to get Best movie but Elvis does 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 02, 2023, 01:06:24 PM
I've only seen two of the best picture nominees, Top Gun and Everything Everywhere.  Enjoyed them both, I think the latter is much more likely to win an Oscar over the former, just based on history.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on February 07, 2023, 02:26:16 PM
I've only seen two of the best picture nominees, Top Gun and Everything Everywhere.  Enjoyed them both, I think the latter is much more likely to win an Oscar over the former, just based on history.
Everything could have been about 45 minutes shorter
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on February 07, 2023, 02:31:41 PM
Starting my annual Oscars movie watch.  I'll update as I watch


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Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on February 07, 2023, 02:36:27 PM
I'm sorry, but I thought Top Gun: Maverick was way over the top. To many unrealistic things that made it almost unwatchable for me. I haven't seen any of the others. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 07, 2023, 06:08:29 PM
I thought it was very entertaining.  Only thing I'd add is just a lot more scenes with Jennifer Connelley.

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on February 07, 2023, 07:49:23 PM
Everything Everywhere All at Once was pretty easily my favorite movie I saw last year. The only other best picture nominees I saw were Top Gun and Banshees, and both were entertaining but didn't really hit the same. Also can't imagine either Top Gun or EEAAO being anywhere near as good on the small screen.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 07, 2023, 09:43:04 PM
I felt so sad after watching Elvis.  I hadn't realized how he was like a race horse tied to a fence post his whole life.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on February 07, 2023, 09:50:29 PM
I'm sorry, but I thought Top Gun: Maverick was way over the top. To many unrealistic things that made it almost unwatchable for me. I haven't seen any of the others.
I'm not a fan of the original, but I LOVED this version.

And Jennifer Connelly makes everything better
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on February 07, 2023, 09:54:20 PM
I felt so sad after watching Elvis.  I hadn't realized how he was like a race horse tied to a fence post his whole life.
There's some quote from either George Harrison or Paul McCartney about how they were with Elvis one time and he wouldn't do drugs with them because he wouldn't put it in his body.  I always took it as he didn't know what he was taking.  But the movie really made it clear that while that was true, he also wasn't given a choice.

Unnecessarily casting Tom Hanks in a fat suit knocked it down a peg for me, and I always have a hard time crediting actors with playing actual people.  Feels like they aren't so much acting as impersonating.  Is it better acting because it's in a biopic rather than an SNL skit?
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on March 12, 2023, 04:04:29 PM
Didn't see as many as I wanted, but here's what I've got, granted, this isn't my picks, but what I thought

Starting my annual Oscars movie watch.  I'll update as I watch


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Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: FearlessF on March 12, 2023, 04:20:27 PM
hey, I know one name

Jamie Lee Curtis
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 12, 2023, 04:38:44 PM
I just watched All Quiet on the Western Front last night.
It's a quality movie, but I didn't enjoy watching it at all.
.
Akin to The Joker, with Joaquin Phoenix.  It was a genuinely quality movie.  But I never want to watch it again.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MrNubbz on March 12, 2023, 07:42:16 PM
hey, I know one name

Jamie Lee Curtis
I've heard of Farrel and Blanchett you poor dirt farmer . One played for the Cubs the other played for the Phillies you rube
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: FearlessF on March 12, 2023, 07:55:45 PM
with Ernie Banks and Mike Schmitt respectively?
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on March 12, 2023, 11:17:06 PM
Everything Everywhere All at Once has to be the most overrated movie I've seen in a while.  There are movies that are clearly just art house films, and whatever, they are what they are.  But that movie tried to be something else... enjoyable.  And it was, for half a movie, and then turned into absolute Oscar bait shit.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 13, 2023, 10:34:55 PM
Went to a ballgame today and stopped by the card shop nearby.
Picked up these for cheap.  I know they're not worth anything, but it's fun to open a pack.
They didn't have any 2023 Topps baseball, so I picked up these - I love cards that show their college unis.
(https://i.imgur.com/q038e4j.jpg)
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 13, 2023, 10:38:20 PM
I owned the black-border Desmond Howard cards back in the day, and most of them were stuck together in this pack.  I don't care, as they're not worth anything and it didn't affect the photos on the cards.
.
(https://i.imgur.com/IfPU1wF.jpg)

I was surprised to see a Favre card.  There are other good cards, too.  A bummer is that the stack of cards with Ismail on top was like half offensive linemen.

(https://i.imgur.com/sVpaPW1.jpg)

This was the intriguing thing I bought.  I'd never seen these before.  There are others, but these are notables.  This was Series III, btw.  They look great.  I'm glad I bought them.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on March 14, 2023, 09:07:18 AM
Seven Kings Must Die | Official Trailer | Netflix - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqCYw_o5lng)
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on March 14, 2023, 09:08:46 AM
The books on which the NF series is based are excellent (IMHO).  THe video version strays quite a bit, as usual, but is still interesting, and well made.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on March 16, 2023, 12:26:22 PM
Just finished watching Everything Everywhere All the Time

what a pile of crap

I used to think Bride of Chucky was the worst movie ever made but it has now been replaced by this movie

dont waste your time
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MrNubbz on March 16, 2023, 08:05:47 PM
You didn't see Dune circa 1983 left after about 20 minutes Bogart,Cary Grant,James Stewart, Marlon Brando,James Dean on their best nights couldn't save that Cinema Shit Show. Another incredible waste of Tavern Time was Chariots of Fire,something wrong with that Freak Show that calls itself  Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences Awards 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MarqHusker on March 16, 2023, 09:10:25 PM
Just finished watching Everything Everywhere All the Time

what a pile of crap

I used to think Bride of Chucky was the worst movie ever made but it has now been replaced by this movie

dont waste your time
I think my anecdotal circle of friends that have seen this are all between 'horrible' to 'such a waste of time'
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on March 16, 2023, 09:26:20 PM
I think my anecdotal circle of friends that have seen this are all between 'horrible' to 'such a waste of time'
Its amazing just how far the Academy has sunk

They have completely lost any idea of what movie fans want to see and instead have chosen to march to woke heaven
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on March 17, 2023, 06:57:03 AM
I think my anecdotal circle of friends that have seen this are all between 'horrible' to 'such a waste of time'
I saw it and loved it - thought it was well deserving and one of the best movies I've seen in years. Though I'm not sure it's a movie that plays well on the small screen. I took my wife and oldest daughter and they also loved it. A kung fu movie about social media and suicide that is hilarious. It threads a lot of needles.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on March 17, 2023, 10:29:16 AM
I saw it and loved it - thought it was well deserving and one of the best movies I've seen in years. Though I'm not sure it's a movie that plays well on the small screen. I took my wife and oldest daughter and they also loved it. A kung fu movie about social media and suicide that is hilarious. It threads a lot of needles.
you cant be serious

there is no plot 

just continuous broken fractured movement
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: rolltidefan on March 17, 2023, 10:43:59 AM
Seven Kings Must Die | Official Trailer | Netflix - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqCYw_o5lng)
came here to post this. so excited. haven't read the books yet, but will probably pick them up after this. loved the tv series, hoping for good closure.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on March 17, 2023, 10:52:43 AM
you cant be serious

there is no plot

just continuous broken fractured movement
Well, the fractured movement is definitely there - and has a point too. It does try to overload your senses, though that is in tune with the theme of the movie. It's right there in the title.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on March 17, 2023, 11:02:26 AM
Well, the fractured movement is definitely there - and has a point too. It does try to overload your senses, though that is in tune with the theme of the movie. It's right there in the title.
I should have paid closer attention to the title

its fractured choppy scene after scene for 2 and a half hours

if thats your thing go for it or you could pay someone to jump out of a closet and yell at you every 30 seconds for 2 and a half hours about the same thing

and what makes this even crazier is that it was voted best movie which is insane
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: MaximumSam on March 17, 2023, 11:08:41 AM
I should have paid closer attention to the title

its fractured choppy scene after scene for 2 and a half hours

if thats your thing go for it or you could pay someone to jump out of a closet and yell at you every 30 seconds for 2 and a half hours about the same thing

and what makes this even crazier is that it was voted best movie which is insane
It helps if you've seen Ratatouille
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 14, 2023, 02:26:28 PM
We watched "A Man Called Otto" last night. 

From the commercials, it looked like Tom Hanks being a grumpy curmudgeon, and it was certainly that. 

From the commercials, it almost looked like a comedy. It most certainly WAS NOT that. 

It's an excellent, moving story. Really well done. But don't watch it unless you want to sob like a little effing baby. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on June 14, 2023, 02:38:50 PM
We watched "A Man Called Otto" last night.

From the commercials, it looked like Tom Hanks being a grumpy curmudgeon, and it was certainly that.

From the commercials, it almost looked like a comedy. It most certainly WAS NOT that.

It's an excellent, moving story. Really well done. But don't watch it unless you want to sob like a little effing baby.

My son told me about that movie and while Im a big Hanks fan Im going to pass on it cause I like movies that are up beat

Ive had enough sadness in my life and want to be entertained in a happy or uplifting way

thats why Ive never watched Titanic

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on November 08, 2023, 03:38:49 PM
Was listening to a podcast that asked the best movie you've never seen.  They gave the caveat that you could discount classics like Citizen Kane or Lawrence of Arabia or Cleopatra.  They had some weird ones like Jurassic park and Christmas Story.  I have never seen Godfather start to finish, so I think that's mine.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 08, 2023, 04:29:45 PM
We watched "A Man Called Otto" last night.

From the commercials, it looked like Tom Hanks being a grumpy curmudgeon, and it was certainly that.

From the commercials, it almost looked like a comedy. It most certainly WAS NOT that.

It's an excellent, moving story. Really well done. But don't watch it unless you want to sob like a little effing baby.

Just caught this post.

Saw that recently. Excellent movie.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on November 08, 2023, 05:01:38 PM
Oh yeah, really enjoyed "A Man Called Otto."  The kids loved it, too.

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: jgvol on November 08, 2023, 05:02:35 PM
My son told me about that movie and while Im a big Hanks fan Im going to pass on it cause I like movies that are up beat

Ive had enough sadness in my life and want to be entertained in a happy or uplifting way

thats why Ive never watched Titanic



The movie is quite uplifting in it's own way.  
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on November 08, 2023, 05:46:20 PM
The movie is quite uplifting in it's own way. 
Yup, it's a wonderful story.

Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 08, 2023, 06:38:05 PM
It's a great movie. But holy hell it hits ya right in the feels...
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on November 08, 2023, 06:54:54 PM
I watched Unstoppable the other night staring Denzel Washington and Chris Pine

Im a big Denzel fan and the movie was very entertaining
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 08, 2023, 06:57:06 PM
My son told me about that movie and while Im a big Hanks fan Im going to pass on it cause I like movies that are up beat

Ive had enough sadness in my life and want to be entertained in a happy or uplifting way

thats why Ive never watched Titanic
These are the movies I only see once.  No need to expose myself to it again, no matter how good it is.  Like Joker.  That's one.  Great, quality movie.  Never want to see it again.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on February 13, 2024, 05:15:48 PM
I watched Unstoppable the other night staring Denzel Washington and Chris Pine

Im a big Denzel fan and the movie was very entertaining
Man, haven't thought about that in a while.  That should go in the underrated movies.  SNL had a great skit with Scarlett Johansson that made fun of the trailer too
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on February 13, 2024, 05:19:15 PM
Trying to get through my Oscar noms watch.  Would highly recommend The Holdovers.  I still have Oppenheimer and Killers of the Flower Moon, but thus far, that is my favorite Best Picture, and its not close

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Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 13, 2024, 05:19:40 PM
Has anyone watched Succession? Great show; highly recommend.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on February 13, 2024, 05:59:28 PM
Has anyone watched Succession? Great show; highly recommend.
(https://i.imgur.com/anf56Sa.png)
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 13, 2024, 10:23:13 PM
Has anyone watched Succession? Great show; highly recommend.

Based on fan reactions and glowing reviews the three shows I would stream if I had the time are:

1. Succession 2. The Bear 3. Only Murders in the Building
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on February 14, 2024, 02:54:30 PM
Updated after watching Barbie last night

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Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 15, 2024, 09:07:03 AM
Man I've only seen one of the nominated movies and it's Barbie.  Maybe I need to get out more...


Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 15, 2024, 09:10:28 AM
The Bear was good although I'll be honest, shows where the main characters are constantly smoking cigarettes kind of wear me out.  It doesn't bother me as much in period pieces like Mad Men, but in contemporary shows, I just want to shake these stupid MFers and scream WHY?

For background, I grew up in a house with a mother that smoked, a lot.  In the house, in the car on long drives with the window "cracked" which does absolutely no good.  I loathe cigarettes in a way that might be unhealthy in and of itself, but it is what it is.  So when I see it in a contemporary TV show, it really turns me off.



Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: FearlessF on February 15, 2024, 09:26:58 AM
easy big fella
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on February 15, 2024, 09:34:19 AM
My wife stated watching Barbie on a plane flight, she made it about 5 minutes in.  Someone suggested it to her.  Delta has a LOT of movies available on long flights now, which would be good if more of them were worth watching.  I usually just read and try to doze.

The flight to Japan will be a killer.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 15, 2024, 10:43:15 AM
easy big fella

Eh, I can't.  It's an unavoidable, visceral reaction, resulting from years of being trapped in a smoky car for cross-country trips to California or international ones into the deep interior of Mexico.  
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: utee94 on February 15, 2024, 10:44:25 AM
My wife stated watching Barbie on a plane flight, she made it about 5 minutes in.  Someone suggested it to her. 

Would you say she was "unimpressed?"
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 15, 2024, 11:08:35 AM
My wife and I watched Barbie before the holidays when we had the flu. Neither of us liked it much. 

She wanted it to be light and fun and nostalgic about her childhood. She enjoyed the first part of the movie (when Barbie was doing Barbie things) and then when it turned dark and weird she wasn't a fan. 

I wanted it to turn dark and weird and be somewhat of a Barbie dystopia, because the movie my wife wanted to watch would have been boring as hell. But then, when it turned dark and weird and into a Barbie dystopia for some reason it just... didn't hit

It was a miss for us. 
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Post by: longhorn320 on February 15, 2024, 11:39:49 AM
I made in 29 minutes into Barbie and gave up

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Post by: LetsGoPeay on February 15, 2024, 11:44:21 AM
I watched Barbie all the way through and enjoyed it. But I enjoy tongue-in-cheek, ironic, referential humor. For instance, The Brady Bunch Movie from the mid-90s is one of my favorite guilty pleasures. 
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Post by: utee94 on February 15, 2024, 12:47:52 PM
I enjoyed Barbie.  Didn't see it at the theater but the whole fam rented it streaming for $20 or whatever, once it hit the streaming market.  For me it had the right blend of pop cultur-y fun, and weird dark dystopian exploration. 

I don't know if I'd consider it "Oscar-worthy" but I'm also not certain what that really means.  It was worth our $20, anyway.

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Post by: jgvol on February 15, 2024, 01:16:49 PM
I have a weekend afternoon tradition -- the nap on the couch.

At which time, my wife turns on some BS chick movie that I would never entertain watching with her.

About a month ago it was "Barbie".  (I am shocked at the amount of men here that watched.)

I'm dozing as she is turning the movie on, and a few minutes later, she turned it off.  I roll over ... "What's wrong?"

Her: "It was on my nerves....Hi Barbie, Hi Barbie, Hi Barbie, Hi Barbie....." which I heard, and was unsuccessfully trying to block out.

Me:  "Thank F'ing God."

No idea what she ended up watching instead, but I enjoyed a good nap.
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 15, 2024, 09:00:54 PM
I couldn't watch Silicon Valley (HBO) for that reason - the sheer volume of the script that said "pied piper" drove me insane.  372 times per episode.  First and only time I've experienced that.
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Post by: Entropy on February 17, 2024, 10:29:13 AM
The best movie I've seen in probably 4 or 5 years was the recent Godzilla movie.   I saw it with my son and then again with friends.   It has been a long time since a movie had a great combination of story/plot, character development, great casting (realistic casting I might add), reasonable special effects, and great usage of sound or lack of sound.   

To be fair, I've given up on a lot of movie studios.   I've watched more at home via streaming... but I watch movies to be either entertained (ie, just to enjoy and escape) or to watch something that is thought-provoking in a non-superficial way.    A lot of crap has been produced, IMO, that pander (yes, I aligned with the SouthPark episode) rather than entertains or creates dialogue.   Writing in Hollywood has lost the storytelling I appreciate.  

sorry for the rant..
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Post by: MaximumSam on February 17, 2024, 10:32:28 AM

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The best movie I've seen in probably 4 or 5 years was the recent Godzilla movie. 
There have been like five of those so you might need to narrow it down
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Post by: MaximumSam on February 17, 2024, 10:33:40 AM
Finally watched The Holdovers last night while the snow was falling and enjoyed it greatly. Alexander Payne is one of my favorite directors and Sideways is one of my favorite movies.
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Post by: Entropy on February 17, 2024, 10:35:00 AM
There have been like five of those so you might need to narrow it down

fair..

Godzilla Minus One
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Post by: MaximumSam on February 17, 2024, 10:42:39 AM
fair..

Godzilla Minus One
I've heard that is awesome. I think it came to a theatre near me but I missed it
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Post by: jgvol on February 17, 2024, 07:23:34 PM
Finally watched The Holdovers last night while the snow was falling and enjoyed it greatly. Alexander Payne is one of my favorite directors and Sideways is one of my favorite movies.

I love just about anything with Paul Giamatti.  

Except for “American Splendor”.  That was a tough watch, but I gutted it out. 

Looking forward to “The Holdovers”. 
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Post by: longhorn320 on February 17, 2024, 11:06:06 PM
I love just about anything with Paul Giamatti. 

Except for “American Splendor”.  That was a tough watch, but I gutted it out.

Looking forward to “The Holdovers”.
I just watched The Holdovers

Giamatti is very good in this one
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Post by: ELA on February 25, 2024, 12:59:02 PM
Watched The Color Purple and Zone of Interest.  Unimpressed with both.

I've never actually seen the musical The Color Purple, so maybe that's how it is, but it felt like they didn't actually include the entire songs.  It's like watching a musician biopic, except it actually was a move, and actually was a musical.  This felt like they did a worse remake of the movie, and included a little bit of music.  What music there was, was good enough.  But this felt 100% like a musical/movie that did not need to be made.

Zone of Interest is apparently "based" on a book, in the loosest of definitions.  I thought it would be this interesting look at the dual nature of a war criminal with a home life.  Instead, it was just mostly about his home life.  If you were going to do that, the whole movie should have been about the wife, then the Holocaust of it all simply being the background, would have been different.


BEST PICTURE

BEST ACTOR

BEST ACTRESS

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
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Post by: Mdot21 on February 25, 2024, 04:23:39 PM
Watched The Color Purple and Zone of Interest.  Unimpressed with both.
Feel like Hollywood doesn’t really make anything worth seeing anymore. I saw Matt Damon talk about this, he was basically saying the studios used to take big chances and risks and swing for the fences all the time, because even if a movie didn’t hit and perform like gangbusters at the box office, the revenue from the home sales of VHS in 80s and 90s and then DVD/BluRay in 2000’s and 2010’s would make up for that.

Lot of movies would just do OK at the box office and still make hundreds of millions more for the studios through the home sales, and unlike at the box office they didn’t have to split the take with theater chains. They got to keep that all money for themselves. 

Well obviously that entire industry is dead now because of subscription streaming services, and if a movie doesn’t crush it at the box office today then the studio is pretty much guaranteed to lose money on that movie. 

You get a better product now in tv. Instead of spending $100-$150 million to make a single movie, studios are better off spending that kind of scratch doing an 8-10 part series. They’ll have a better product and they’ll be able to own it on their own streaming services to keep/attract subscribers or license it for shitloads of money forever to other streaming services. 

Movies are a shitty business with way too much risk to be in now, which is probably why all we get coming down the pike from Hollywood these days is pretty much trash.
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Post by: ELA on February 25, 2024, 10:45:57 PM
95% of movies are either cashing in on existing IP, or just art house films trying to make money after being included on awards list.

That's not to say either one has to be bad.  I enjoyed almost all of the Marvel movies pre Disney+.

I also actually loved both Star Wars spin off movies (Rogue One and Solo), as bad as the entire sequel trilogy was.

And some of the Oscar bait movies (Holdovers), are phenomenal.  I just think there are almost no movies that exist in between anymore.  It might just be Tom Cruise saving us all.  I know MI and Top Gun are existing IP, but even the other movies he's made over past decade have all been good.  And even the slight misses have at least existed in the rare gap of just fun movies that are neither.

People lost their minds over Barbenheimer.  And now both are nominated for Best Picture.  Can't we just have a fun summer movie with characters we don't know?
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Post by: LetsGoPeay on February 26, 2024, 11:59:04 AM
Rogue One is actually my favorite Star Wars movie. I love that they embraced a darker, more gritty tone and that the "good guys" aren't always good. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on February 26, 2024, 12:04:26 PM
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Post by: Cincydawg on February 26, 2024, 12:05:01 PM
What is the most recent movie you personally would put in your top 50 all time?  
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Post by: longhorn320 on February 26, 2024, 12:13:13 PM
What is the most recent movie you personally would put in your top 50 all time? 
Second Hand Lions
Master and Commander
The Martian

sorry couldnt list just one
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Post by: Cincydawg on February 28, 2024, 08:02:39 AM
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Post by: FearlessF on February 28, 2024, 08:20:47 AM
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Post by: Cincydawg on February 29, 2024, 01:25:19 PM
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Shazaam.
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 01, 2024, 03:32:51 PM
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Post by: utee94 on March 01, 2024, 03:44:43 PM
Going to see Dune part 2 on Sunday, I'm pumped.

Also, I've watched the first two episodes of Shogun and so far it's really good.
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Post by: GopherRock on March 01, 2024, 04:04:10 PM
Watched The Color Purple and Zone of Interest.  Unimpressed with both.

I've never actually seen the musical The Color Purple, so maybe that's how it is, but it felt like they didn't actually include the entire songs.  It's like watching a musician biopic, except it actually was a move, and actually was a musical.  This felt like they did a worse remake of the movie, and included a little bit of music.  What music there was, was good enough.  But this felt 100% like a musical/movie that did not need to be made.

Zone of Interest is apparently "based" on a book, in the loosest of definitions.  I thought it would be this interesting look at the dual nature of a war criminal with a home life.  Instead, it was just mostly about his home life.  If you were going to do that, the whole movie should have been about the wife, then the Holocaust of it all simply being the background, would have been different.


BEST PICTURE
  • The Holdovers
  • Barbie
  • Maestro
  • Past Lives
  • Zone of Interest

BEST ACTOR
  • Paul Giamatti, The Holdovers
  • Colman Domingo, Rustin
  • Bradley Cooper, Maestro

BEST ACTRESS
  • Annette Bening, Nyad
  • Carey Mulligan, Maestro

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
  • Ryan Gosling, Barbie

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
  • Da'Vine Joy Randolph, The Holdovers
  • Danielle Brooks, The Color Purple
  • America Ferrera, Barbie
  • Jodie Foster, Nyad

I'm assuming you didn't see Oppenheimer, because your order of several of these lists would be very different. Oppy's going to win Best Picture, Robert Downey Jr. is going to win Supporting Actor in a ridiculously loaded field.

Since we moved to where a movie theater is a mile down the road from us, we've seen more of the Academy Award nominees this year than we ever have.

Said theater also has the worst popcorn I've ever eaten under any pretenses. Even worse than some of the awful bar popcorn I've eaten at the Big Ten and Newt's over the years, and that's saying something.

I thought Barbie was a perfect airplane movie. We watched it on the way down to Florida back in January.

Saw the Holdovers on a whim. Loved it. Randolph is going to win Supporting Actress and deservedly so. If anyone is going to beat Cilian Murphy, it's going to be Giamatti. 

As Oscar bait goes, Maestro is egregiously so to the point it made Green Book look like chicken scratch. Bradley Cooper is trying too hard. He should take the same advice cardinals get when running for pope.

We saw Wonka back in January, and while I didn't think it was anything to write home about, it got us interested in Timothy Chalamet, which got us through Dune, and now we're looking forward to seeing Dune 2 soon.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 01, 2024, 04:21:54 PM
We saw Wonka back in January, and while I didn't think it was anything to write home about, it got us interested in Timothy Chalamet, which got us through Dune, and now we're looking forward to seeing Dune 2 soon.
My wife has a friend who is just over the damn moon for that dude. My wife doesn't see the appeal. 

Which is good, because I look nothing like him :57:
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Post by: longhorn320 on March 01, 2024, 04:30:49 PM
Oppenheimer spent most of the movie showing the government investigation into his communist connection and very little on the actual development of the bomb

this was very disappointing to me

also the movie is way too long 3.5 hours

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Post by: Cincydawg on March 01, 2024, 05:20:45 PM
Agree. 
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Post by: GopherRock on March 01, 2024, 09:23:16 PM
Oppenheimer spent most of the movie showing the government investigation into his communist connection and very little on the actual development of the bomb

this was very disappointing to me

also the movie is way too long 3.5 hours


When Nolan stuffed 3 movies (an Oppenheimer biopic, a trieastie on nuclear weaponry, and a courtroom drama) into 1, this was to be expected. 
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Post by: ELA on March 01, 2024, 09:36:53 PM
I mean, the movie is called Oppenheimer, not the Manhattan Project.  I guess I always expected it to be about the man, not the bomb.

Also, it's Christopher Nolan, it's never going to be just a straightforward anything
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Post by: Cincydawg on March 01, 2024, 10:06:28 PM
I guess, maybe it was too artsy fartsy for a simple guy.  I did not like it, nor did my wife, who actually IS arsty fartsy.

Did I mention she's French?

She's a joy, her mom was Irish and it shows, every day.
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Post by: ELA on March 01, 2024, 10:21:40 PM
I guess for a summer blockbuster, yes.  As a Best Picture nominee these days, it was way more mainstream than 95% of nominees over the past decade.

Remember when they went from 5 to 10 to get more mainstream movies nominated, because the nominees were too artsy?  That lasted like a year, with Toy Story 3 getting a much deserved nomination.  Then they just went from nominating 5 artsy movies to 10.

As long as I'm rambling, I've never been more.upset.aboit a money grab than Toy Story 4.  Toy Story 3s ending was absolutely perfect, and naturally they couldn't leave well enough alone
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Post by: longhorn320 on March 01, 2024, 10:35:23 PM
I mean, the movie is called Oppenheimer, not the Manhattan Project.  I guess I always expected it to be about the man, not the bomb.

Also, it's Christopher Nolan, it's never going to be just a straightforward anything

Its fine to show a personal side but he is famous for only 1 thing

I would have liked to see more about that thing then trying to figure out if his security clearance should be lowered
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Post by: ELA on March 01, 2024, 10:52:06 PM
Its fine to show a personal side but he is famous for only 1 thing

I would have liked to see more about that thing then trying to figure out if his security clearance should be lowered
Disagree, having his clearance pulled as political retribution is a major part of his story.  And I also think that to correctly frame that, you need to show that backstory 
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Post by: longhorn320 on March 01, 2024, 11:22:39 PM
Disagree, having his clearance pulled as political retribution is a major part of his story.  And I also think that to correctly frame that, you need to show that backstory
and they did for 3.5 hours
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Post by: ELA on March 01, 2024, 11:59:35 PM
and they did for 3.5 hours
I mean the movie is 3 hours long, and at least half of it is about Los Alamos, so tough to find where 3.5 hours comes from.

It's like going to see Hamilton and complaining that people kept singing and ruining all the history.  The movie told you right up front what it was. If that wasn't the movie you wanted to see, that's fine. But complaining that a movie that told you it was a biopic was a biopic seems like a weird complaint
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 02, 2024, 12:15:30 AM
Oppenheimer spent most of the movie showing the government investigation into his communist connection and very little on the actual development of the bomb

We don't want any more countries coming up with a bomb, do we?  :57:
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Post by: utee94 on March 02, 2024, 02:33:22 AM
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Post by: ELA on March 03, 2024, 07:24:54 PM
My wife has a friend who is just over the damn moon for that dude. My wife doesn't see the appeal.

Which is good, because I look nothing like him :57:
https://youtu.be/ZTwekCKTklE?si=EkhAxOtyxfDa2FQ_&t=93
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on March 03, 2024, 07:27:19 PM

Saw Oppenheimer, hadn't added it

BEST PICTURE

BEST ACTOR

BEST ACTRESS

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR

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Post by: longhorn320 on March 03, 2024, 07:47:24 PM
what a sad state our movie industry is in

The Holdovers is the only decent movie listed unless you are 8 and then you could add Barbie
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 03, 2024, 10:15:22 PM
what a sad state our movie industry is in

The Holdovers is the only decent movie listed unless you are 8 and then you could add Barbie
One of my students' (family) got me a gift card to the movies for Christmas.....and I'm still waiting for something to see.
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Post by: ELA on March 05, 2024, 10:37:22 AM
Saw Anatomy of a Fall.  Don't get it.  I feel like now there has to be one token foreign language film.  If it's one of the 10 best, ok.  But I just find it hard to believe that every year there is 1, and only 1.  Either seems like it should have been in Best Foreign Language, or there should be years where there are multiple.  The actual movie, I didn't find all that good either.  I get the Best Actress nomination, but not Best Picture

BEST PICTURE

BEST ACTOR

BEST ACTRESS

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 05, 2024, 11:26:54 AM
My wife and I watched Kelce on Amazon Prime the other night. Really enjoyed it. We were a little surprised that it was less about "the brothers" than it was about Jason Kelce specifically and Travis was merely a supporting character. But that's not a bad thing--after watching it, I think that was absolutely the right way to go. 

Recommend it if you're interested. Talked a lot about his potential retirement decision from that year, which has now turned into his actual retirement as of yesterday. 
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Post by: longhorn320 on March 05, 2024, 11:33:37 AM
My wife and I watched Kelce on Amazon Prime the other night. Really enjoyed it. We were a little surprised that it was less about "the brothers" than it was about Jason Kelce specifically and Travis was merely a supporting character. But that's not a bad thing--after watching it, I think that was absolutely the right way to go.

Recommend it if you're interested. Talked a lot about his potential retirement decision from that year, which has now turned into his actual retirement as of yesterday.
So this was a documentary?
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 05, 2024, 11:40:16 AM
So this was a documentary?
Yes. Followed him through the course of the 2022 season and into the postseason. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on March 05, 2024, 11:52:56 AM
My wife and I watched Kelce on Amazon Prime the other night. Really enjoyed it. We were a little surprised that it was less about "the brothers" than it was about Jason Kelce specifically and Travis was merely a supporting character. But that's not a bad thing--after watching it, I think that was absolutely the right way to go.

Recommend it if you're interested. Talked a lot about his potential retirement decision from that year, which has now turned into his actual retirement as of yesterday.
He is almost certainly going to be the third man in the booth for Amazon's NFL games this year
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: CatsbyAZ on March 06, 2024, 08:31:43 AM


BEST PICTURE
  • The Holdovers

BEST ACTOR
  • Paul Giamatti, The Holdovers



BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
  • Da'Vine Joy Randolph, The Holdovers


Watched The Holdovers on a flight yesterday - Fantastic!

I knew The Holdovers was going to be worth the watch when I noticed it was Paul Giamatti and Alexander Payne teaming up for another film. Their first being Sideways, a great film from 2004. One feature of Payne's work is the emphasis on atmosphere, setting, and season. Sideways is in part memorable because of its featuring of California's central coast winery scenery and culture. Likewise in Holdovers, Payne makes the stale boarding school environment distinct and the wintery New England setting shines.

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Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on March 06, 2024, 09:14:42 AM
I knew The Holdovers was going to be worth the watch when I noticed it was Paul Giamatti and Alexander Payne teaming up for another film. Their first being Sideways, a great film from 2004.
That's one I need to rewatch.  I saw it pretty close to when it came out, and I think I was just too young for it.

I also have always been irritated by Thomas Haden Church
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Cincydawg on March 06, 2024, 11:40:32 AM
The book "Sideways" is hilarious, and quite different from the movie.  And no Haden Fry Church.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on March 07, 2024, 10:55:41 PM
Haven't completed it yet, but Poor Things feels like this years "shitty movie that people are scared to say is shitty, bc then they will be accused of not getting it" film.

And rode it all the way to a Best Picture nomination.  Emma Stone is very good.  Almost so good she makes the movie even more disgusting than it otherwise would be
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Post by: LetsGoPeay on March 13, 2024, 06:07:34 PM
Just finished watching Napoleon. It's a solid Ridley Scott movie. It definitely feels like most of his do. It's not terribly deep but with a subject like Napoleon, it's hard to do that. There's just too much to cover. I wouldn't call it a great movie but I enjoyed it. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: ELA on March 13, 2024, 10:14:16 PM
Just finished watching Napoleon. It's a solid Ridley Scott movie. It definitely feels like most of his do. It's not terribly deep but with a subject like Napoleon, it's hard to do that. There's just too much to cover. I wouldn't call it a great movie but I enjoyed it.
I totally forgot about it until it was up for costume design or something.  A period biopic starring Joakim Phoenix,. directed by Ridley Scott, felt like Oscar bait, bit wasnt
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Post by: utee94 on March 15, 2024, 09:53:31 AM
I don't mind Thomas Haden Fry.

But Paul Giamatti stole that movie (as he often does).
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Post by: Mdot21 on March 17, 2024, 12:33:14 PM
Just finished watching Napoleon. It's a solid Ridley Scott movie. It definitely feels like most of his do. It's not terribly deep but with a subject like Napoleon, it's hard to do that. There's just too much to cover. I wouldn't call it a great movie but I enjoyed it.
just saw it. thought it was absolutely terrible. can't say enough bad things about it. had way too high of expectations because Jauqin is one of the greatest actors alive, Napoleon Bonaparte is one of the most iconic, most important figures in world history, and while Ridley Scott makes an awful lot of shit movies- he also has greatness in him- he's made some great movies. Guy swings for the fences, he'll make anything- sometimes it works- lots of times it doesn't though. just doesn't work here.

Jauqin is an amazing actor but the script he had to work with sucks and he's also probably too old to play this role, would've been perfect for it 15 years ago. the movie is way too jumbled, disjointed, confusing. they show nothing of napoleon's skill as a charismatic, cunning politician and very little about his brilliance as a military commander. the love story with josephine is laughable- it is absolutely rushed and there is no chemistry between them on screen- and they basically make napoleon a teenage like horny weirdo beta male cuck for josephine and they throw in weird sex scenes for no reason other than just because. we are suppose to believe napoleon does everything in his entire life because he's insecure about his relationship with josephine. as if that is what drove him to greatness. hint: it didn't. he loved josephine, yes, but he also cheated on josephine like it was going out of style and he threw her to the trash bin in a split second for a younger more attractive princess of royal blood as soon as it benefited him.

this thing needed different writers and it needed to be on HBO or AppleTV+ and be an 8 or 10 part 1 hour per episode series. too much to cover, too much to dive into. can't do napoleon in a single 2 hour and 30 minute movie.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on March 17, 2024, 01:32:55 PM
just saw it. thought it was absolutely terrible. can't say enough bad things about it. had way too high of expectations because Jauqin is one of the greatest actors alive, Napoleon Bonaparte is one of the most iconic, most important figures in world history, and while Ridley Scott makes an awful lot of shit movies- he also has greatness in him- he's made some great movies. Guy swings for the fences, he'll make anything- sometimes it works- lots of times it doesn't though. just doesn't work here.

Jauqin is an amazing actor but the script he had to work with sucks and he's also probably too old to play this role, would've been perfect for it 15 years ago. the movie is way too jumbled, disjointed, confusing. they show nothing of napoleon's skill as a charismatic, cunning politician and very little about his brilliance as a military commander. the love story with josephine is laughable- it is absolutely rushed and there is no chemistry between them on screen- and they basically make napoleon a teenage like horny weirdo beta male cuck for josephine and they throw in weird sex scenes for no reason other than just because. we are suppose to believe napoleon does everything in his entire life because he's insecure about his relationship with josephine. as if that is what drove him to greatness. hint: it didn't. he loved josephine, yes, but he also cheated on josephine like it was going out of style and he threw her to the trash bin in a split second for a younger more attractive princess of royal blood as soon as it benefited him.

this thing needed different writers and it needed to be on HBO or AppleTV+ and be an 8 or 10 part 1 hour per episode series. too much to cover, too much to dive into. can't do napoleon in a single 2 hour and 30 minute movie.
I felt the same way with Oppenheimer
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Post by: utee94 on March 20, 2024, 10:52:10 AM
Just finished Oppenheimer, I liked it.
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Post by: utee94 on March 20, 2024, 10:55:27 AM
In unrelated news, here's a list from IMDB of 50 movies released in 1987.  It's pretty astonishing how many good-to-great movies are on this list, for just ONE release year.  These days we'd be lucky to see the same amount of quality released over a 5-7 year period.

https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?title_type=feature&release_date=1987-01-01,1987-12-31

I'm not saying EVERY movie on this list is a hit or a winner, but man there are a bunch that are, and plenty of others that are entertaining even if not "great."
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Mdot21 on March 24, 2024, 06:24:30 PM
Just finished Oppenheimer, I liked it.
I thought it was terrific, but I'm a big fan of RDJ, Cilian Murphy, and Christopher Nolan, so I was probably most likely going to like it no matter what. 
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: Mdot21 on March 24, 2024, 06:27:11 PM
In unrelated news, here's a list from IMDB of 50 movies released in 1987.  It's pretty astonishing how many good-to-great movies are on this list, for just ONE release year.  These days we'd be lucky to see the same amount of quality released over a 5-7 year period.

https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?title_type=feature&release_date=1987-01-01,1987-12-31

I'm not saying EVERY movie on this list is a hit or a winner, but man there are a bunch that are, and plenty of others that are entertaining even if not "great."
movies on the whole just used to be so much better in the 70s, 80s, 90s. Even the early 2000s they were still really good.

I blame Netflix and wokeism for movies sucking ass now.
Title: Re: OT - TV shows and Movies
Post by: longhorn320 on April 08, 2024, 08:30:48 PM
Im rewatching Band of Brothers

Id forgetten just how good it was