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Topic: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2226 on: April 11, 2024, 09:08:49 AM »
me too

hung out with many athletes at UNL in the early 80s

I'd have traded places
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« Reply #2227 on: April 11, 2024, 09:39:19 AM »
Not a big fan of generating millions in revenue and the people who are supposed to be in charge of my best interests are just stealing the money from me. 

But, they will probably need to embrace contracts and some sort of collective bargaining at some point.
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« Reply #2228 on: April 11, 2024, 09:51:09 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on April 11, 2024, 09:39:19 AM
Not a big fan of generating millions in revenue and the people who are supposed to be in charge of my best interests are just stealing the money from me.

But, they will probably need to embrace contracts and some sort of collective bargaining at some point.
How does Title IX come into play with this?
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2229 on: April 11, 2024, 10:17:43 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 11, 2024, 09:51:09 AM
How does Title IX come into play with this?
I'm not an Attorney and we do have a few Attorneys on here who might have a better handle on this but I did go to law school, I just didn't finish and this is an interest of mine so I've researched it a little bit and here is my understanding:

Title IX is based on programs "receiving federal assistance".  The major Football schools have maintained that their Football Programs do not receive Federal Assistance nor any "assistance" for that matter since they are money-making rather than subsidized by the institutions.  Based on that logic, Title IX simply does not apply.  

My understanding is that this theory has never actually been litigated.  I would guess that is because neither side actually wants to go there.  For the major Football schools the possibility exists that they might lose in which case they'd have a major Legal Headache on their hands.  Proponents don't want to litigate it because if they lost then anyone could use the precedent that activities not receiving federal assistance are exempt from Title IX.  
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2230 on: April 11, 2024, 10:21:52 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 11, 2024, 09:51:09 AM
How does Title IX come into play with this?
It definitely applies, though to what extent and how is pretty unclear. I'm sure it will be litigated. 
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2231 on: April 11, 2024, 10:26:05 AM »
To become compliant with Title IX (UW was the first school in compliance), baseball was eliminated, while a few women's sports were added. I don't remember which ones. 1990 is a long time ago.
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« Reply #2232 on: April 11, 2024, 10:46:14 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on April 11, 2024, 10:17:43 AM
I'm not an Attorney and we do have a few Attorneys on here who might have a better handle on this but I did go to law school, I just didn't finish and this is an interest of mine so I've researched it a little bit and here is my understanding:

Title IX is based on programs "receiving federal assistance".  The major Football schools have maintained that their Football Programs do not receive Federal Assistance nor any "assistance" for that matter since they are money-making rather than subsidized by the institutions.  Based on that logic, Title IX simply does not apply. 

My understanding is that this theory has never actually been litigated.  I would guess that is because neither side actually wants to go there.  For the major Football schools the possibility exists that they might lose in which case they'd have a major Legal Headache on their hands.  Proponents don't want to litigate it because if they lost then anyone could use the precedent that activities not receiving federal assistance are exempt from Title IX. 
I don't think that argument would hold water.  Congress closed the Grove City loophole
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