OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread

[bayareabadger]

Why does someone apply for a job, get through the phone consult to be offered an interview... And then no-call no-show?!

My wife is hiring a new medical assistant. She's actually getting some pretty good applicants this time (unlike her last two cycles).

But she's getting probably 30%+ no-call no-show rate on agreed-to interviews. Interviews that were scheduled by an actual phone conversation between two real people, not some online appointment program. And this high rate is consistent with her last two hiring cycles.

I could see the occasional one-off. But how is it possible that the no-call no-show rate is so high? What the hell is wrong with people? Can't you have the courtesy if you've changed your mind to call and say you're not going to be there?

I feel like for some reason I’ve heard that about that job. But that might’ve been from you.

Either way, I wish I had the level of opportunities to be able to pull that off.

[847badgerfan]

What the hell is wrong with people? 

I'm certain you know the answer to this.

[MikeDeTiger]

Why does someone apply for a job, get through the phone consult to be offered an interview... And then no-call no-show?!

My wife is hiring a new medical assistant. She's actually getting some pretty good applicants this time (unlike her last two cycles).

But she's getting probably 30%+ no-call no-show rate on agreed-to interviews. Interviews that were scheduled by an actual phone conversation between two real people, not some online appointment program. And this high rate is consistent with her last two hiring cycles.

I could see the occasional one-off. But how is it possible that the no-call no-show rate is so high? What the hell is wrong with people? Can't you have the courtesy if you've changed your mind to call and say you're not going to be there?

In Mrs. DeT's sphere (which is obviously anecdotal and a limited sample size), she says the MA's mostly entering the workforce are Gen Z and are pretty poor communicators and workers, with little motivation to do more than they absolutely have to.  Says they don't chip in to do anything to help the providers if they have down time from their mandated duties.  And that they're constantly late and taking off of work.  We have a running joke in our house about her Mondays, because their MA's are forever calling in sick on Monday mornings.  Funny how it's always Monday morning that they just can't.  For years she was used to working with MA's who were millennial, Gen X, or older.  She claims the amount of hustle from the Gen Z crowd has been lacking compared to the others.  Her office just lost an Gen Z MA to maternity leave, and the temp they hired is about 60 years old, and she says it's been like a breath of fresh air.  

Suppose that her experience generalizes relatively well to the broader pool of MA candidates out there.  I don't know the ages of the ones your wife was scheduled to interview, but if they were ~Gen Z, then I could see people with meh work ethic blowing off interviews either because something better came along and they didn't think it was worth notifying your wife, or because they just didn't feel like it that day.  

[bayareabadger]

I recall when I got my first job, I had two offers. I’d accepted one, but couldn’t find the right time to call and tell them (let’s be real, it felt somewhat intimidatingly). 

They ended up calling me on Thanksgiving. Were very nice about it. I reached out a year later to apologize and they were like “we didn’t care that much.”

[Wildcat4E]

That is weird I've been to many funerals for friends Catholic parents and there were testimonies from others and scripture reading. That might be some old ancient order or sumsuch. But like Larry the cable Guy said those catholics are in good shape,standing/kneeling getting back up to sit."oh lordie" he says

Heavily Catholic community I'm living in, all the Volga Germans still here from the 1890's.  Had a guy tell me my daughters should have married one, that way they would never leave to crazy ass places like FLA, LA, and TX.

Joke I heard a while back:

What's the one thing you won't see at a Catholic Funeral?

A: Tears!

It's just a lengthy ritual that hardly says anything about the dead guy.  

[betarhoalphadelta]

In Mrs. DeT's sphere (which is obviously anecdotal and a limited sample size), she says the MA's mostly entering the workforce are Gen Z and are pretty poor communicators and workers, with little motivation to do more than they absolutely have to.  Says they don't chip in to do anything to help the providers if they have down time from their mandated duties.  And that they're constantly late and taking off of work.  We have a running joke in our house about her Mondays, because their MA's are forever calling in sick on Monday mornings.  Funny how it's always Monday morning that they just can't.  For years she was used to working with MA's who were millennial, Gen X, or older.  She claims the amount of hustle from the Gen Z crowd has been lacking compared to the others.  Her office just lost an Gen Z MA to maternity leave, and the temp they hired is about 60 years old, and she says it's been like a breath of fresh air. 

Suppose that her experience generalizes relatively well to the broader pool of MA candidates out there.  I don't know the ages of the ones your wife was scheduled to interview, but if they were ~Gen Z, then I could see people with meh work ethic blowing off interviews either because something better came along and they didn't think it was worth notifying your wife, or because they just didn't feel like it that day. 

I do think that's the case. A lot of them are Gen Z. 

[MikeDeTiger]

I do think that's the case. A lot of them are Gen Z.

At my wife's company, one of the previous MAs was a Gen Z girl who exemplified all this behavior.  She was also a real Type A personality and got herself in hot(ish) water a few times by firing off unwise emails to upper management about stuff that was really none of her business.  She'd regret it, and then boo-hoo in my wife's office (while she's trying to get actual work done) about how she really needed that job, she couldn't afford to lose another one, because apparently she'd already been let go by two similar companies for similar behavior.  And all that on top of the fact that she knew she called in a bunch of days (usually on Mondays).  

In true Dilbert fashion, she was promoted to management.  She is over my wife's clinic and several in the Houston area.  While she has no authority over any of the medical decisions, she is technically my wife and the other providers' boss, as far as operations, scheduling, requests for time off, etc.  

My wife does note that the girl actually seems to thrive since being promoted.  She is allowed to work from home about as often as she wants in that role, and my wife says that while she's absolutely no help in coming in to staff the place to have adequate personnel so that providers can sometimes leave early if they are done with their patient load, that she's pretty on top of the day-to-day stuff.  Apparently she just wasn't cut out to be a peon.  She needed to be able to boss people around.  

My wife is cool with that, and doesn't really care.  Mostly she's just happy that they don't count on her for actual MA work anymore.

Me, I have a problem in principle with giving somebody a larger role (and paycheck) who couldn't be trusted in a lesser role.  

[847badgerfan]

I'd have whacked her.

[bayareabadger]

Where do I get a job like that where my indifference is rewarded?


(I am interested in the extra work vs. I do what you pay me to do angle, but that links to my own experience)

[847badgerfan]

Where do I get a job like that where my indifference is rewarded?


(I am interested in the extra work vs. I do what you pay me to do angle, but that links to my own experience)

Don't look at me.

[SFBadger96]

[betarhoalphadelta]

[MrNubbz]

Me, I have a problem in principle with giving somebody a larger role (and paycheck) who couldn't be trusted in a lesser role. 

Says everyone with common sense or who has their own business.It's not as uncommon as believed though, I'm familiar with a very nauseating case of F-Up,Move-Up. It seems like a massive group effort

[FearlessF]

it once was the peter principle, now it's this???