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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #546 on: August 16, 2020, 05:29:51 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 16, 2020, 05:28:00 PM
I imagine it's true for second lieutenants too, presuming they aren't wondering around lost.

The lust for control is a human trait.

If I were in charge ....
Heh!

Smart 2nd Lts quickly find out that they aren't in charge nearly as much as they were told they would be at the service academy, ROTC, or officer candidate school.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #547 on: August 16, 2020, 07:05:30 PM »
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #548 on: August 16, 2020, 10:38:45 PM »
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #549 on: August 17, 2020, 06:08:53 AM »
I don't think these "petitions" are meaningful, at all.  The official ones can be of course, not this one.

Can someone outline the relative risk of having a fall season for me?  I laid out the possible scenarios before.  Risk to players playing versus the same risk not playing.

Risk of students being on campus versus being at home.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #550 on: August 17, 2020, 08:38:20 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 17, 2020, 06:08:53 AM
I don't think these "petitions" are meaningful, at all.  The official ones can be of course, not this one.

Can someone outline the relative risk of having a fall season for me?  I laid out the possible scenarios before.  Risk to players playing versus the same risk not playing.

Risk of students being on campus versus being at home.


It was started by Justin Fields and has the support of a lot of players and coaches.  It is meaningful, though not sure it will move the B1G.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #551 on: August 17, 2020, 08:42:13 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on August 17, 2020, 08:38:20 AM
It was started by Justin Fields and has the support of a lot of players and coaches.  It is meaningful, though not sure it will move the B1G.
I mean, coaches and players supporting something has meaning. Less than 2 percent of the viewership of OSU-Michigan voting in an online poll does not. 
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #552 on: August 17, 2020, 08:45:50 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on August 17, 2020, 08:42:13 AM
I mean, coaches and players supporting something has meaning. Less than 2 percent of the viewership of OSU-Michigan voting in an online poll does not.
Yeah - it wouldn't be a surprise to the B1G folks that people want to watch football.  I think it is surprising to see so many players and coaches vocally fighting the decision (that is being made, supposedly, for their safety).  
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #553 on: August 17, 2020, 08:59:16 AM »
Particularly when the guy making that decision doesn't seem to have the same concerns about the safety of his own son. 
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #554 on: August 17, 2020, 08:59:27 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on August 17, 2020, 08:38:20 AM
It was started by Justin Fields and has the support of a lot of players and coaches.  It is meaningful, though not sure it will move the B1G.
How then is it meaningful?  You seem to find "meaning" in stuff that you admit is not going to change anything.

I don't.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #555 on: August 17, 2020, 08:59:53 AM »
So, what is the increased risk to players if they play versus if they do not play?
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #556 on: August 17, 2020, 09:02:00 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 17, 2020, 08:59:27 AM
How then is it meaningful?  You seem to find "meaning" in stuff that you admit is not going to change anything.

I don't.
It's the meaningful to the extent it clearly is on the radar of the B1G leadership. It may or may not affect the B1G season. Are other leagues paying attention? Absolutely they are. There is almost no question it is moving the needle towards playing. So it's meaningful. I am much more process based than results based.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #557 on: August 17, 2020, 09:06:15 AM »
You can have your "process".  I'll deal with results, and likely results.  This simply is not going to matter, at all, to anyone.

It's show, not go.

Do, or do not, there is no process.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #558 on: August 17, 2020, 09:08:57 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 17, 2020, 09:06:15 AM
You can have your "process".  I'll deal with results, and likely results.  This simply is not going to matter, at all, to anyone.

It's show, not go.

Do, or do not, there is no process.


That's fine. There are the sausage eaters and the sausage makers. 
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #559 on: August 17, 2020, 09:18:36 AM »
I spent 32 painful if remunerative years working at a place that emphasized "process" over "results".  It makes me sick to think about it.

To me, it's hand waving, feel good notional aspirational burfle.  I'll stick with hard core metrics myself.
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