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Topic: Maryland regents recommend reinstating Durkin, Loh fires him next day.

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2018, 09:07:32 PM »
This is why at some point people are put under oath.  A lot easier to say x, y z to a reporter quite another thing when you are forced to face the accused.   This is serious stuff, one way or another we need to learn more about these allegations. 

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2018, 09:59:18 PM »
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2018, 11:02:29 PM »
2014   Ohio State   One track & field member hospitalized (rhabdo)

well, if you're stretching to put together a list

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2018, 11:23:15 PM »
Recruiting will suffer. With allegations hanging over this school like these parents will be reluctant to encourage their kids to play here.

The program could lose what little swagger it was developing very quickly.

DJ Durkin is not the only possibility as a head coach for Maryland and probably not even the best at this point. If the school tries defending him it will be seen by some as a gambit for defending the wrongful death lawsuit that follows. I suspect that the sooner he is dispatched the sooner a replacement is hired, the sooner that replacement starts recruiting his athletes, the better for the Maryland football program. The allegations are deep troubling. This is beyond the Adam James/Craig James/Mike Leach issues, which in my view the allegations there were nothing approaching those here.

We will see what the independent reviewer's report says. I suspect Maryland will await that report and then fire DJ Durkin for cause based on violation of the morality clause these contracts usually contain so Maryland has grounds to fire for those reasons, and not pay any part of the remainder of the contract. If the independent review goes the other way, i.e. finds no fault with the coaching staff they keep him this year and use that independent review defensively for their lawsuit, and then terminate him because he has a bad season. 

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2018, 11:31:56 PM »
ESPN certainly has had it's eye on the BIG lately...   Perhaps the BIG has done poorly with policing itself.  Or, perhaps the BIG has improved too much in football....  

yes, I'm a Gen-Xer.  =)

But what little ESPN I watch seems focused on that which challenges their investment.   It's not that OSU, MSU, Maryland, FSU (2 yrs ago) are not news.  It's the fact that other news doesn't share the coverage volume.   The highlight the bad of certain programs/conferences more than others.

it's not fake news, but it certainly is influencing... just like they do with the polls.   But they are part of the US media machine where directing the conclusions is the norm.

Now, I'm going to put back on my tin foil hat.  thank you.
I wonder how much of this is "coverage" and how we perceive coverage.
It always strikes me the bad/upsetting looms larger in our minds. There's something in our wiring that wants to perceive that someone is trying to get us. 

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2018, 03:20:25 AM »
I don't know, but if you cover and own the SEC NETWORK, and your greatest competition is the B1G, what better way to improve ratings than to attack your competition. 

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2018, 06:50:24 AM »
^^^ there is that. Delany and Disney are not on the best of terms.
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2018, 06:51:06 AM »
2014 Ohio State One track & field member hospitalized (rhabdo)

well, if you're stretching to put together a list


Well, the producer of that piece was CBSec. :67:
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2018, 08:46:35 AM »
2014 Ohio State One track & field member hospitalized (rhabdo)

well, if you're stretching to put together a list
I thought the same thing. They reached in a number of those

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2018, 09:00:56 AM »
I doubt anybody here really cares what I think, but since I have opined, I want to make myself clear.

If that article correctly depicts the culture in Maryland football (I don't think it does), I want the entire staff gone.  If negligence (or whatever we want to call it) led to McNair's death, the program should do whatever is needed to address that, including dismissal of whoever is responsible.  This might include the captain of the ship.

My comments have been more about the shabby, headline-seeking coverage by ESPN than about the situation itself...

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2018, 10:11:47 AM »
Thanks for clarifying that part. I tend to agree with you, if true.
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2018, 10:19:51 AM »
I agree Jersey.

I want due process, not knee jerk reactions, but it's too late for that. 

Public opinion is done.  Heather and ESPN made sure that happened without talking to anyone currently in the program.

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2018, 10:22:16 AM »
I wonder how much of this is "coverage" and how we perceive coverage.
It always strikes me the bad/upsetting looms larger in our minds. There's something in our wiring that wants to perceive that someone is trying to get us.
true.   I read an article about it a few years ago and how humans are wired to be victims and become defensive.

Like I said, it's how I perceive things.    It's not that these shouldn't be covered, but imo, the duration and amplitude feels different.   Without documenting it, my perceptions could be exactly what you described.    But for now...  screw espn.  =) 
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2018, 10:25:44 AM »
^^^ there is that. Delany and Disney are not on the best of terms.
They made a billion dollar investment into the SEC.   They should be biased to maximize that return.   I'm ok with it.   But don't pretend you're not doing it. 

 

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