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Topic: Maryland regents recommend reinstating Durkin, Loh fires him next day.

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Hawkinole

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Maryland regents recommend reinstating Durkin, Loh fires him next day.
« on: August 10, 2018, 09:21:54 PM »
If you haven't seen this article it is worthwhile reading, but it will take time. It is not complimentary. http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24342005/maryland-terrapins-football-culture-toxic-coach-dj-durkin

Members of the staff are placed on administrative leave while the school conducts an investigation. Doesn't state who, but it might be Head Coach DJ Durkin, and strength and conditioning coach Rick Court, or maybe not. But those are the two most prominently featured in the article.
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2018, 09:27:26 PM »
Big Ten good PR train keeps rolling along.  It's all on you Wisconsin!
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2018, 11:05:34 PM »
Sure doesn't look good, but the B1G Network was there today and interviewed DJ, OC, and DC. 

Could happen anywhere, but it happened at Maryland, so we're doomed. 
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2018, 11:56:38 PM »
Which fan base is going g to emerge from the woodwork for this one?
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2018, 09:38:18 AM »
Quote from: ELA on August 10, 2018, 09:27:26 PM
Big Ten good PR train keeps rolling along.  It's all on you Wisconsin!
Baton is passed to Northwestern.
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2018, 02:16:36 PM »
Most universities try to do in house investigations.

We hired an outside investigation when it happened. 

Heather Dinich has a bad history with Maryland dating back to Ralph's days.

If it was so toxic, why the transfers in? Why would Prince and Derwin come back for their senior years, when they are considered draft picks?  Jermaine Carter? 

Doesn't add up. They're is cursing, emotion, motivation, and pushing you past your limits. I joined the military and played in HS. It happens in both places. Kids get yelled at and pushed.

Now, there is a medical staff in hand at every university  People seem to forget that. He didn't show signs like throwing up, or dehydration.

He looked worn out, like anyone running 100 yard dashes. They did what they could, I'm sure, and maybe he was trying to be a "man" about it, but ultimately, they called 911.

I'm sure blame has to be put on someone, so it's not going to be pretty.

The strength and conditioning staff is on suspension. 
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2018, 05:34:49 PM »
Sounds like Durkin on leave
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2018, 05:49:12 PM »
Matt Canada moving on up
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2018, 07:03:45 PM »
Quote from: mcwterps1 on August 11, 2018, 02:16:36 PM
Doesn't add up. They're is cursing, emotion, motivation, and pushing you past your limits. I joined the military and played in HS. It happens in both places. Kids get yelled at and pushed.

I'm sure blame has to be put on someone, so it's not going to be pretty.

The strength and conditioning staff is on suspension.
The S & C coaches are where the blame will go and they will lose their jobs. When someone dies during workouts accountability starts with firing the Strength coach. It’s like in the Navy when a ship crashes the commanding officer is fired. Speaking of the military, all of the same coaching behavior happened to me, even the forced vomiting, when I did basic training 15 yrs ago. I could see tactics like that getting old after 4 years of football practice, but in basic training it’s treated as something you just move on and forget.
It’d be a dissapointment if Durkin takes much fall for this; I love the foundation he’s building. This is more of ESPN putting out the hit pieces like they did on Fantonio and Izzy to fit it in the more heated context of the Nasser fallout.
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2018, 09:29:44 PM »
Is what it is. I think Loh needs to go myself, but if he falls, so will everyone else. 

Muschamp spoke about cowards and anonymous sources while defending Durkin and his integrity.

That said, if firing Durkin is the right thing to do, then I'm on board. I just don't think it should be on him.

The head trainer, definitely yes. 
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2018, 10:01:41 PM »
Malik Jones may have been one of the sources.

He had an altercation with DJ because he was in a team meeting on his iPad and laughing. 

Durkin apparently told him he disrespected the team and asked him to leave. 

TE coach Tyler Bowen didn't stay long.  He left after a very short stint and went to, wouldn't you know it, PSU.

This "toxic" crap looks like it's coming from disgruntled people. And Heather just loves sticking it to Maryland.

The trainer needs to go. He's the one responsible for the "drag him off the field" comment.

He's been there since Ralph's days though, I believe. 

He came from Purdue and has been on the staff a very long time. 

I'm sure there is truth to the S&C coach, but I doubt he threw weights AT players. 

Also, this could also be the work of the lawyer working on behalf of McNair's family.  He was on the Freddy Grey case I believe (what I've heard, not sure).

The idea is to reduce public opinion, and then win in court. 

Not sure to that speculation though. 

Sad for everyone involved. 
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2018, 06:33:46 AM »
Having Canada on hand I’m guessing they fire Durkin.  His program, he should have dealt with it.
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2018, 08:57:07 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on August 12, 2018, 06:33:46 AM
Having Canada on hand I’m guessing they fire Durkin.  His program, he should have dealt with it.
I'm all in on Canada as an OC. I think that was a home run hire.  But I don't think he's a sure thing as an HC enough that you run Durkin out the door just to not have to deal with it.
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2018, 09:53:37 AM »
Looks to me like a coaching staff that has high expectations (perhaps too high, no offense) and doesn't know any other way to get to where they want to be than to ratchet up the intensity.  They probably lack a tool kit of diverse motivational methods and have/will just tighten things up until it bursts, either good or bad.  Maybe it already burst badly with the player dying.


Honestly, when it comes to that, I'm surprised it doesn't happen much more often.  I played from 5th grade up through HS and dealt with heat exhaustion once.  There's a fine line because yes, your body can go further than your mind wants to allow it to, but only so much.  You have players who are going balls-to-the-wall for 1-normal, wanting to play reasons, but then 2-want to avoid being embarrassed by the one-trick-pony coaching staff on top of that...and you get kids going genuinely too hard.


If Durkin had more motivational tools he could utilize, he wouldn't be in this predicament.  
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