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Drew4UTk · « **Reply #854 on:** August 23, 2018, 08:51:09 AM »

I wish @CoachQ would log in and jump in this conversation... He know's Urban Meyer, personally, and had some interesting insight on the guy. It would be applicable here. I don't know if he'd share it publicly, but.... it is certainly applicable in this conversation.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #855 on:** August 23, 2018, 08:52:01 AM »

It is interesting to me that a HC who retains an employee who has "issues" (and is underperforming) gets sanctioned by the university. The employee did not nearly as I can discern commit a crime of which he was convicted or charged.

I wonder how much residual effect this will have on Coach Meyer going forward. He seemed VERY tense and unhappy. I suppose that will wear off, but will anything linger? I am guessing he was on the verge of quitting and maybe his wife calmed him down?

This whole thing is bizarre to me, especially the long delay in announcing the finding.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #856 on:** August 23, 2018, 09:06:24 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on August 23, 2018, 07:34:01 AM

Meyer was very tense in that press conference. I wonder if his wife convinced him to stay when he was on the verge of quitting because he feels unfairly treated here.

I didn't see/here any of last nite as I was in that precious part of the nite that unless the house was on fire I was in unwind mode.But if he really felt like quitting I wish he had followed thru.In many aspects he made this bed but the program has to sleep in it.Faffing that press conference alone in so many ways was worth a crippling fine

MaximumSam · « **Reply #857 on:** August 23, 2018, 09:08:31 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on August 23, 2018, 08:52:01 AM

It is interesting to me that a HC who retains an employee who has "issues" (and is underperforming) gets sanctioned by the university. The employee did not nearly as I can discern commit a crime of which he was convicted or charged.

I wonder how much residual effect this will have on Coach Meyer going forward. He seemed VERY tense and unhappy. I suppose that will wear off, but will anything linger? I am guessing he was on the verge of quitting and maybe his wife calmed him down?

This whole thing is bizarre to me, especially the long delay in announcing the finding.

It was super bizarre, and I'm not sure how Meyer will be coming out of it. He's never responded especially well to negativity.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #858 on:** August 23, 2018, 09:09:22 AM »

Quote from: Drew4UTk on August 23, 2018, 08:51:09 AM

I wish @CoachQ would log in and jump in this conversation... He know's Urban Meyer, personally,

Who in the wide,wide world of sports is that?

TyphonInc · « **Reply #859 on:** August 23, 2018, 09:10:27 AM »

Quote from: CatsbyAZ on August 23, 2018, 07:08:02 AM

if you’re an Ohio State fan you’re OK with this because you’re a tool.

I call dibs on being a Halligan Bar.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #860 on:** August 23, 2018, 09:14:00 AM »

Something was going on in that room between 1 PM when they made the decision and when they came out of the room.

I'm pretty sure that something was convincing Meyer to take the punishment. Meyer may well have been on the verge of quitting. Perhaps his wife talked him out of it.

His demeanor at the presser was striking, very very tense. He kept asking for questions to be repeated almost as if he was running clock wanting it to be over. He also did not respond directly to the question asked in many cases.

How this may impact his attitude and coaching going forward will be interesting.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #861 on:** August 23, 2018, 09:19:13 AM »

How much does it matter to a team if the HC is not on the field for the game?

My guess is not much in nearly every case. Perhaps in a very tight game, a Spurrier would be the difference versus a mediocre coach.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #862 on:** August 23, 2018, 09:23:27 AM »

Quote from: CatsbyAZ on August 23, 2018, 07:08:02 AM

Unless McM has more sordid detail to air out, it’s over. Ohio State blames Meyer’s medication, and if you’re an Ohio State fan you’re OK with this because you’re a tool.

Put that thing out you'll burn your fingers.Pretty sure the previous 28 pages indicated that this wasn't the case.So outside of your post being pretty much full of shit - it was a great post

MrNubbz · « **Reply #863 on:** August 23, 2018, 09:24:28 AM »

Quote from: TyphonInc on August 23, 2018, 09:10:27 AM

I call dibs on being a Halligan Bar.

bayareabadger · « **Reply #864 on:** August 23, 2018, 09:33:54 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on August 23, 2018, 08:52:01 AM

It is interesting to me that a HC who retains an employee who has "issues" (and is underperforming) gets sanctioned by the university. The employee did not nearly as I can discern commit a crime of which he was convicted or charged.

Can you expand a little on this? I think I have a response, but I might be missing the point.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #865 on:** August 23, 2018, 09:37:34 AM »

I'm trying to think about being fired "for cause" versus being retained while having issues. I probably draw on my work experience too much as that was a different thing obviously. We would not be fired for a DUI for example, or even have to report it. We WOULD get fired if we used the corporate AMEX at a strip club.

We had no reporting requirements about DV incidents unrelated to work. I don't even think we had to report arrests for whatever, I don't know that as it never came up that I knew about.

So, working at a public university is quite different. My personal analogy is likely not relevant.

HailHailMSP · « **Reply #866 on:** August 23, 2018, 10:13:54 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on August 23, 2018, 09:14:00 AM

Something was going on in that room between 1 PM when they made the decision and when they came out of the room.

I'm pretty sure that something was convincing Meyer to take the punishment. Meyer may well have been on the verge of quitting. Perhaps his wife talked him out of it.

His demeanor at the presser was striking, very very tense. He kept asking for questions to be repeated almost as if he was running clock wanting it to be over. He also did not respond directly to the question asked in many cases.

How this may impact his attitude and coaching going forward will be interesting.

The long term dynamics with both Urban Meyer and the President will be interesting to follow. Gene Smith will be the cushion in between. There was a pretty clear blow by from Urban at the end of the press conference with the President. I wouldn’t be surprised to see any of the three hit the road in the next 6 - 12 months.
Looking back on it I don’t think Meyer or Gene Smith needed to be at the conference last night. Have them both release well crafted PR statements and prop the President, a trustee, and the lead investigator up there.

Entropy · « **Reply #867 on:** August 23, 2018, 10:15:56 AM »

for some perspective.... Pryor received 5 games for tattoos.

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