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Topic: Is Urby In Trouble Here?

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #784 on: August 22, 2018, 08:12:44 PM »
The longer this lasts, the worse any outcome will be for OSU.


It seems like there's a really nasty impasse. I'm not sure this is primarily about Meyer anymore. It *feels* (I'm clearly guessing) like it's more about Drake v. BoT, with each side staking out how they do things and obstinately realizing how incompatible their perspectives are. 

Ya know, there was always a possibility that today's meeting would be uncomfortable. But if it were, I think we expected it would be for things revealed by the investigation. But I don't think it ended up that way. Maybe these 10 hours have been more uncomfortable than any of us predicted, but it seems like it's moreso for reasons of alpha leadership jockeying (again, still just guessing). 
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #785 on: August 22, 2018, 08:58:50 PM »
With all the staff "analysts" Saban has, he probably knows everything about MY personal life lol...
Kinda hoping they fire meyer so we can get him for a year as an analyst. :)

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #786 on: August 22, 2018, 09:03:17 PM »
And there it is. Sounds like Urban and Gene Smith are both suspended for a significant chunk of September (3 games for Urban, including through TCU -- no pay).

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #787 on: August 22, 2018, 09:08:53 PM »
I'm very interested in what the report has to say.  To me, this has always been more of an either/or situation.  Either he shouldn't be the coach or he should be.  A suspension certainly feels like a weird half measure that isn't commensurate with the crime - either he protected someone from consequences of domestic violence and should be fired or he didn't and why are we here.    However, I'm guessing there is a lot of information in the report that may modify that view.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #788 on: August 22, 2018, 09:09:26 PM »
At the presser, it was mentioned that in the case of the 2015 events, Gene Smith and Urban Meyer consulted together and ultimately chose not to pass it onto Compliance, as (apparently?) would be standard. I guess that's the crux of what's being punished. 
Improper/incomplete reporting.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #789 on: August 22, 2018, 09:18:22 PM »
At the presser, it was mentioned that in the case of the 2015 events, Gene Smith and Urban Meyer consulted together and ultimately chose not to pass it onto Compliance, as (apparently?) would be standard. I guess that's the crux of what's being punished.
If that’s true, this is a bad look for OSU.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #790 on: August 22, 2018, 09:22:41 PM »
Maybe I am biased, but did Urban not come off as a 1st grader forced to write something on a chalk board? It was a series of run on sentences with his head down and a gun held up to him. 

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #791 on: August 22, 2018, 09:25:18 PM »
I would respect Meyer more if he simply resigned.

This is crap.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #792 on: August 22, 2018, 09:26:29 PM »
Maybe I am biased, but did Urban not come off as a 1st grader forced to write something on a chalk board? It was a series of run on sentences with his head down and a gun held up to him.

I thought that in this situation he did his best to show grace. As the conference opened, he found it difficult to not shake his head left/right (as if feeling a reflexive "groan" or "no") when Drake was speaking, but when given the chance to speak, whereas it seemed (I'm guessing) he is feeling defiant, he suppressed that and spoke subserviently and with respect for Drake. That choked me up a bit, just normal empathy stuff, because it seemed obvious to me how difficult that moment was for him. And he handled it, probably, the best he possibly could.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #793 on: August 22, 2018, 09:27:15 PM »
Ohio State mangled this badly in my view.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #794 on: August 22, 2018, 09:28:28 PM »
I haven't seen it, but man, this seems really odd.  I guess we'll see how things go down in the long haul (hopefully well!) but in the short view this seems like more of a cowtow to public pressure as opposed to being based in any sound principles or decisions.  

For example, the report indicates both Smith and Meyer thought in good faith they didn't need to report because there was no arrest.  However, Urban did report to his supervisor.  It goes out of its way to say that if Urban thought there was domestic abuse he would have fired Smith.  

I dunno, I'm strongly against weird half measures just to appease the public.  That is definitely a result of working in criminal defense and seeing how people are treated as a result of that attitude.  Right now, this seems like a weird half-measure to appease the public, as opposed to being based in any kind of principle or morality.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #795 on: August 22, 2018, 09:29:14 PM »
If that’s true, this is a bad look for OSU.
Bye Felicia. 
C U Next Time. 
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #796 on: August 22, 2018, 09:29:32 PM »
I would respect Meyer more if he simply resigned.

This is crap.
I am surprised that this began as an investigation into failed reporting, passed through a stage of administrative leave while figuring it out ... and then ended up as a verified story of failed reporting ... and the consequence is a stage of suspension, which is basically just administrative leave. 
That is weird. But I'm not sure how to judge it.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #797 on: August 22, 2018, 09:33:51 PM »
Bye Felicia.
C U Next Time.
Really? First off, that four-letter acronym is maybe not the one you wanted to pick for this particular thread. Second, yes, it doesn't look good. OSU is trying and Drake seems like a damn good steward for you guys, so it'll eventually be fine, but don't blame Super for calling it like it is, especially when he words it so carefully ("if...then that's a bad look").
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