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Topic: Is Urby In Trouble Here?

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #224 on: August 03, 2018, 10:10:18 AM »
The investigation will take a while. The investigative body Ohio state has in place looks like a good group of individuals. 

The internet rumors on the victim lose weight when they state police stopped responding to 911 calls. That isn’t something that would happen. It’s not a good look for those that spread them.

Honest Buckeye - you raise a number of very fair questions that will need to be answered by the investigative body in the weeks ahead.

The only thing I would question is does it matter if Urban Meyer escalated the issue? A head coach has full hiring / firing authority for his staff. We see those decisions made quickly all the time by coaches. I suppose it may matter as to where Gene Smith and others fit into the accusations as well.

The kids really got screwed in all of this. Kids are resilient, and lucky enough they are young not to understand the public aspect of this, but they have been in the middle of a messy world for their entire life.


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« Reply #225 on: August 03, 2018, 10:10:50 AM »
HB - I'm not sure why you thought I was taking shots or my post was directed at you, but it certainly wasn't. I was more commenting on the segment of fans that are saying this has nothing to do with football so there should be no accountability. I simply don't agree with that. Head coaches, paid millions of dollars, should be the example as they are leaders of men at a time that is often life shaping.

My second point was that Urban has a history of being untruthful. He was untruthful at BG, untruthful at Utah and seems it has been a trend. Ignoring that was where my head in the sand comment originated, but again, not directed at you, moreso at the fans I'm surrounded by that think he walks on water on Sundays, after he wins on Saturdays.

Good to see some familiar faces here. We had our second child in May, which has kept us really busy and eliminated any free time, but we're less than a month away and maybe I'm sneaking in a couple extra bathroom breaks to talk some football. 

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #226 on: August 03, 2018, 10:15:45 AM »
HB - I'm not sure why you thought I was taking shots or my post was directed at you, but it certainly wasn't. I was more commenting on the segment of fans that are saying this has nothing to do with football so there should be no accountability. I simply don't agree with that. Head coaches, paid millions of dollars, should be the example as they are leaders of men at a time that is often life shaping.

My second point was that Urban has a history of being untruthful. He was untruthful at BG, untruthful at Utah and seems it has been a trend. Ignoring that was where my head in the sand comment originated, but again, not directed at you, moreso at the fans I'm surrounded by that think he walks on water on Sundays, after he wins on Saturdays.

Good to see some familiar faces here. We had our second child in May, which has kept us really busy and eliminated any free time, but we're less than a month away and maybe I'm sneaking in a couple extra bathroom breaks to talk some football.
On this we agree.    It has everything to do with football and all coaches at that level bate certsin responsibilities.  If he did not live up to them- and at this point that is how it appears- he needs to be fired.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #227 on: August 03, 2018, 10:25:55 AM »
This is bizarre.


Pretend you're the victim.  You've been abused by your husband, it's finally out, everyone knows, and the #1 takeaway from it is....his boss' job is at stake!  What the what?!?!?


Umm, hello, how did we get here?!?  This is sensationalist.  A situation occurs that is "newsworthy" - only because in the wide-scope of everyone involved (not UM) and everyone connected to those involved (UM), one of them is famous.



The other 4 or 17 or 92 domestic abuse victims in Columbus or Gainesville or wherever aren't being discussed by anyone.  Hell, THE ACTUAL ABUSER IN THIS INSTANCE ISN'T BEING DISCUSSED.  This is bizarro-world, imo.



Meyer isn't the one to blame, he just happens to be the most famous person connected to the actual people of the case.  This isn't about being PC or not, it's about celebrity worship and sensationalism and tearing down people we, ourselves, have built up.  It's a sickness.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #228 on: August 03, 2018, 10:36:48 AM »
I suspected someone would bring this up eventually. I touched on it far upthread, as far as the mother (bitch) talking her into staying for money and all that crap. So yes, she stayed and she seems a little "off" on camera, but that doesn't make her "bat shit crazy" or anything close to it.
If she was truly crazy, she would not have gained custody of the children - as in any. So yeah, disinformation for sure.
I have a huge issue with people calling her out for staying for the money or calling her crazy. When you are a parent, you make decisions in attempts to provide for your children as well as possible. Often the abused stay with an abuser for the betterment of their children, thinking they can handle the abuse so the kids have a better life. 
And yes, maybe she is mentally off. Have you ever known anyone that has gone through abuse? They've been through a ton mentally and sometimes there memory, stories and reasoning don't add up. Remember, they are a victim, not someone deserving of abuse. 

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #229 on: August 03, 2018, 10:39:08 AM »
'Fro,

The abuser isn't being talked about because he's been fired and is not working - probably never will again - unless he grabs a shovel.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #230 on: August 03, 2018, 10:42:48 AM »
I have a huge issue with people calling her out for staying for the money or calling her crazy. When you are a parent, you make decisions in attempts to provide for your children as well as possible. Often the abused stay with an abuser for the betterment of their children, thinking they can handle the abuse so the kids have a better life.
And yes, maybe she is mentally off. Have you ever known anyone that has gone through abuse? They've been through a ton mentally and sometimes there memory, stories and reasoning don't add up. Remember, they are a victim, not someone deserving of abuse.
Are you talking to me? I think you are not quite understanding my post, because I 100 percent agree with you. 
What I don't agree with is her mother pressuring her to stay. The woman wanted out, regardless of money, and her mother wouldn't accept that. Shame on her mother for not backing her child's position and desires. Money isn't everything, and had she left the asshole, he'd probably still be working and paying child support anyway.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #231 on: August 03, 2018, 10:44:01 AM »
And yes, I've seen people go through abuse (3 women). Never once did I encourage them to stay. It's not worth it and it only gets worse.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #232 on: August 03, 2018, 10:49:18 AM »
At the 11 minute mark she also contradicts herself as she sure as shit shared it with Shelley Meyer(pictures,texts).She put financial stability in front of the best interests of her children both emotionally/physically.
I endured years of a horrible marriage because I was scared of the financial implications of divorce. I'm sure my ex endured years of a horrible marriage because she was concerned her free ride would end. In fact, one of the things that precipitated the divorce was when I discovered she was on dating sites, I found messages to her best friend where she was saying she wanted a divorce but she was scared that she couldn't support herself and was terrified about getting a job.
Now, there was no abuse, or anything like that. It was just two people that didn't belong together. But clearly we were both putting financial stability in front of our own emotional health.
Can you imagine Courtney Smith's position? Her husband was making a LOT of money. She was making none. She absolutely didn't want him fired. She was scared of what would happen to her, to her kids, if their income source dried up. People will put themselves through all sorts of horrible things due to fear. For her, things finally boiled up to 2015 when she actually divorced him, and that was probably best for both of them. Not sure how it works in Ohio for child support, but she was probably still getting financial support and didn't have to expose herself to the continued abuse. That should have been the end of it, but he couldn't just walk away. Despite being divorced he allegedly threatened her again while dropping off their kids, which precipitated the protection order and all of this coming out. 

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #233 on: August 03, 2018, 10:53:40 AM »
I endured years of a horrible marriage because I was scared of the financial implications of divorce. I'm sure my ex endured years of a horrible marriage because she was concerned her free ride would end. In fact, one of the things that precipitated the divorce was when I discovered she was on dating sites, I found messages to her best friend where she was saying she wanted a divorce but she was scared that she couldn't support herself and was terrified about getting a job.
Now, there was no abuse, or anything like that. It was just two people that didn't belong together. But clearly we were both putting financial stability in front of our own emotional health.
Can you imagine Courtney Smith's position? Her husband was making a LOT of money. She was making none. She absolutely didn't want him fired. She was scared of what would happen to her, to her kids, if their income source dried up. People will put themselves through all sorts of horrible things due to fear. For her, things finally boiled up to 2015 when she actually divorced him, and that was probably best for both of them. Not sure how it works in Ohio for child support, but she was probably still getting financial support and didn't have to expose herself to the continued abuse. That should have been the end of it, but he couldn't just walk away. Despite being divorced he allegedly threatened her again while dropping off their kids, which precipitated the protection order and all of this coming out.
Again, she wanted out and was talked into staying in.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #234 on: August 03, 2018, 11:00:59 AM »
Good to see some familiar faces here. We had our second child in May, which has kept us really busy and eliminated any free time, but we're less than a month away and maybe I'm sneaking in a couple extra bathroom breaks to talk some football.
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« Reply #235 on: August 03, 2018, 11:07:46 AM »
Again, she wanted out and was talked into staying in.
I'm not sure of anything right now.She also claimed that Earle Bruce supposedly drove down to Fla in 2009 to convince her not to divorce him.I mean really,your grown up sort it out.Conveniently she says all this after Smith is fired and Earle is dead.Is this motivated by her alimony/child support being affected - when she had years to air all this out but comes out now?Beginning to think the only victims here are the children.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #236 on: August 03, 2018, 11:11:02 AM »
Are you talking to me? I think you are not quite understanding my post, because I 100 percent agree with you.
What I don't agree with is her mother pressuring her to stay. The woman wanted out, regardless of money, and her mother wouldn't accept that. Shame on her mother for not backing her child's position and desires. Money isn't everything, and had she left the asshole, he'd probably still be working and paying child support anyway.
Poor use of the word "you." I wasn't directing at you, but saying general population using the  word "you." Clearly my forum writing skills need to be polished.  I need to stop by more often.
I agree with the mother situation. Mother's say things that often don't make sense. My mother is one of the nicest ladies in the world, I truly mean that. A week before my first marriage, I went to talk to her and let her know I didn't think I should be getting married and it didn't feel right. Her response was that I couldn't call it off now because it was a destination wedding and our family had vacation time booked. That lady loved me well my entire life, but sometimes parents give absolutely god awful advice. Marriage lasted 14 months, which thankfully led me to finding the amazing woman I get to call my wife. 

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #237 on: August 03, 2018, 11:36:52 AM »
Can you imagine Courtney Smith's position? Her husband was making a LOT of money. She was making none. She absolutely didn't want him fired. She was scared of what would happen to her, to her kids, if their income source dried up.
Yes but she quotes Earle Bruce after he's dead.And then she goes guns blazing to McMurphy after the fact.If she kept all those photos and the Police Dept has her calls/reports on record then she has recourse.She needs to sue her ex,seems she's might be dragging tOSU and Urbz maybe for a payday in court.I'm no lover of UFM or Shelly seems like a lot of flip-flopping.If they're guilty let them swing
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