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Topic: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?

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utee94

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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #126 on: October 09, 2019, 07:45:56 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 08, 2019, 02:28:44 PM
I like the old bowl silliness.
Quote from: CWSooner on October 08, 2019, 10:17:27 PM
I do--or did--too.
Joni Mitchell wrote a great song about the situation such as we are in.



Turns out the dudes in ugly colored sportscoats smoking big cigars making backroom deals, was the best we had.
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« Reply #127 on: October 09, 2019, 01:11:08 PM »
those guys were smarter than everyone thought
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #128 on: October 09, 2019, 01:58:57 PM »
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« Reply #129 on: October 09, 2019, 02:17:11 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 09, 2019, 01:11:08 PM
those guys were smarter than everyone thought
Except there were a lot of guys, and they didn't all agree...

Basically if you include ALL the backroom cigar guys, essentially every year in CFB history has had a split championship. However, even if you limit it to just the *main* backroom cigar guys, there were still a lot of split champs throughout history.

That doesn't bother me, but it apparently bothered people enough that they had to create the BCS and then the CFP to crown a "true" champion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football_national_championships_in_NCAA_Division_I_FBS
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« Reply #130 on: October 09, 2019, 02:45:39 PM »
It all went sideways because of the ?inability? to have a +1 game that wasn't scheduled 9 months in advance.  The inability/unwillingness to be fluid/flexible and hold that national championship game if there were 2 remaining unbeatens is why there was a BCS and playoff. 


Just a limited scope of possibility.

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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #131 on: October 09, 2019, 03:16:21 PM »
I liked split championships.
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« Reply #132 on: October 09, 2019, 04:05:11 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 09, 2019, 03:16:21 PM
I liked split championships.
They don't bother me at all. That adds one more to all the little idiosyncrasies that make college football so unique. 

I also wouldn't hate a truly objective championship. I just hate this halfway in between thing we've got (BCS/CFP) that is still a glorified beauty pageant but one that we lie and act like it's truly objective.  
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« Reply #133 on: October 09, 2019, 04:42:59 PM »
I liked split championships but would rather have that super game between deserving undefeated teams such as 94 Penn St/Nebraska and 97 Michigan/Nebraska after the bowls

absolutely no reason it couldn't have been done except for pride of some old guys running conferences and the NCAA - the money was there to make it happen
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #134 on: October 09, 2019, 05:10:14 PM »
"Split Championship" is a misnomer. Michigan and Nebraska didn't split anything. The each won a different championship, in full.

I proclaim Michigan won it that year. That matters about as much as what the AP or Coaches* decided.


* Actually, media relations staff
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« Reply #135 on: October 09, 2019, 05:11:51 PM »
That's cool.  I proclaim Texas won it in 2008.   Put it on the wall! :)
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« Reply #136 on: October 09, 2019, 05:23:46 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on October 09, 2019, 05:11:51 PM
That's cool.  I proclaim Texas won it in 2008.  Put it on the wall! :)

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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #137 on: October 09, 2019, 05:26:21 PM »
Oh, a TV graphic had Auburn being the '83 NCs during the Florida game.  I had nowhere to place my furor.  
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #138 on: October 09, 2019, 06:01:05 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on October 09, 2019, 05:11:51 PM
That's cool.  I proclaim Texas won it in 2008.  Put it on the wall! :)

Penn State won it in 1969.  Consensus, IIRC.
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« Reply #139 on: October 09, 2019, 06:03:36 PM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on October 09, 2019, 06:01:05 PM
Penn State won it in 1969.  Consensus, IIRC.
Lulz no.

But according to badgerfan we're proclaiming whatever we like these days, so feel free to do so!
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