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Topic: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?

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BoatGuy

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Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« on: October 02, 2019, 08:48:21 PM »
*Ohio State is a national championship contender.

*Iowa and Wisconsin are undefeated and both can win the Big Ten West.

*Penn State and to a lesser extent Minnesota are both undefeated and can make some noise this season.

*Michigan and Michigan State both have only one loss and can make a New Year's Six Bowl.

*Indiana and Maryland can still make some noise by season's end.

The Big 12 overall and PAC 12 for example can make claim to being the 2nd best conference but that is debatable.

Thoughts?


https://saturdayblitz.com/2019/09/30/big-ten-football-burning-questions-september-2019/
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2019, 10:05:03 PM »
More data needed.
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2019, 10:25:12 PM »
I'll wait to see those November OOC games....
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2019, 11:04:26 PM »
Not sure if you guys are big on SP+, but they have SEC as the best, with Big XII and Big Ten close behind.  Small drop to Pac, then the ACC is closer to the group of 5 than it is to the Pac.
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2019, 11:28:30 PM »
Quote from: BoatGuy on October 02, 2019, 08:48:21 PM

Thoughts?

As far as the Eye Test is concerned, B1G is certainly 2nd only to the SEC. The midsection of the conference is easily better than what the B12, ACC, and PAC 12 can boast.
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2019, 08:05:23 AM »
Man, that B1G bottom is like MAC bottom. 

I have zero faith in Illinois or _____ right now. We'll see about Purdue.
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2019, 08:06:01 AM »
The bottom of the SEC is awful this year, as bad as the bottom of any conference I think, maybe worse.  I don't know how one "rates" that, "we" usually emphasize the top.

I'd not the top has yet to play each other, Saturday starts to change that, but down the road we could learn that some of these undefeated teams are really just pretty good.
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2019, 09:06:34 AM »
Quote from: BoatGuy on October 02, 2019, 08:48:21 PM
*Ohio State is a national championship contender.

*Iowa and Wisconsin are undefeated and both can win the Big Ten West.

*Penn State and to a lesser extent Minnesota are both undefeated and can make some noise this season.

*Michigan and Michigan State both have only one loss and can make a New Year's Six Bowl.

*Indiana and Maryland can still make some noise by season's end.

The Big 12 overall and PAC 12 for example can make claim to being the 2nd best conference but that is debatable.

Thoughts?


https://saturdayblitz.com/2019/09/30/big-ten-football-burning-questions-september-2019/
According to the Colley Matrix, they are #1.  The SEC is #4.

Colley Conference Rankings
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2019, 09:11:27 AM »
Let's imagine one conference is "best".  Does it really matter, except as a Talking Point?

It might help you claim your 11-1 team should be in the playoffs.  But the Committee has the opinion that matters of course, and then not for weeks.

The bottom half of the SEC is awful.  The top half looks pretty strong.  How do you weight that?  

And of course our perceptions may change radically in 2-3-4 weeks if say Florida loses three games, or Penn State, whoever.
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2019, 09:18:58 AM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on October 03, 2019, 09:06:34 AM
According to the Colley Matrix, they are #1.  The SEC is #4.

Colley Conference Rankings
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2019, 09:39:16 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 03, 2019, 08:05:23 AM
Man, that B1G bottom is like MAC bottom.

I have zero faith in Illinois or _____ right now. We'll see about Purdue.

Let's hope R can land Schiano again.  At least they can be on Indiana and UMD's level.
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2019, 09:44:37 AM »
I don't know if even that's possible. Just cut the loss and go grab Syracuse or Pitt, and swap Michigan State and Purdue for the divisions.
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2019, 09:48:29 AM »
Can we drop Tennessee?
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2019, 09:48:42 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 03, 2019, 09:18:58 AM
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Oh god no.

That was my younger days when I hadn't learned to just ignore idiots...

Pretty embarrassing to look back on it, to be honest.

With the playoff, conference strength isn't that much of an issue anymore.  However, it was ridiculous to have the B1G left out of the last two playoffs.
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