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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47250 on: July 22, 2025, 10:15:05 AM »
Quote from: brisco_0317 on July 22, 2025, 10:14:08 AM
Why would they wipe their phones and laptops (which is against DOJ policy)?
Treason.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47251 on: July 22, 2025, 10:15:39 AM »
I think the Russians saw benefit in creating as much doubt in the outcome as possible no matter who was elected, and I think they figured it would be Hillary who they wanted to be weakened by all this mess.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47252 on: July 22, 2025, 10:16:35 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 22, 2025, 10:15:39 AM
I think the Russians saw benefit in creating as much doubt in the outcome as possible no matter who was elected, and I think they figured it would be Hillary who they wanted to be weakened by all this mess.

That is what the actual intelligence showed before Obama ordered it changed.  
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47253 on: July 22, 2025, 10:20:23 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 22, 2025, 10:15:39 AM
I think the Russians saw benefit in creating as much doubt in the outcome as possible no matter who was elected, and I think they figured it would be Hillary who they wanted to be weakened by all this mess.


https://twitter.com/mzhemingway/status/1947659439902797838?s=46&t=Cp3usE5AFRqIBrUa4s1Gtg
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47254 on: July 22, 2025, 10:23:30 AM »
Quote from: brisco_0317 on July 22, 2025, 10:10:05 AM
The PDB Obama was set to receive would show no preference by Russia on who would win the election but he scuttled that report and ordered a new one that would show Russia preferred Trump which was a lie. 

That lie is still being told today -


https://twitter.com/larryoconnor/status/1947628066974359870?s=46&t=Cp3usE5AFRqIBrUa4s1Gtg
Looking closer at the docs, they seem to conflate direct interfering with vote totals with lower tech meddling. A convenient slight of hand for some good distraction.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47255 on: July 22, 2025, 10:23:48 AM »
A CIA Director has purview to change intel analyses.  It's not illegal.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47256 on: July 22, 2025, 10:25:27 AM »
“You get a treason! And YOU get a treason!”
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47257 on: July 22, 2025, 10:32:08 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 22, 2025, 10:23:48 AM
A CIA Director has purview to change intel analyses.  It's not illegal.

He doesn’t have a purview to change the conclusion to the opposite of what the analysis showed.  In other words, he doesn’t have the purview to lie to us or is political appointees lying in order to achieve a desired outcome now just totally acceptable to everyone?  
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47258 on: July 22, 2025, 10:34:15 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on July 22, 2025, 10:23:30 AM
Looking closer at the docs, they seem to conflate direct interfering with vote totals with lower tech meddling. A convenient slight of hand for some good distraction.

Changing the intelligence from Russia had no preference to Russia hacked the election to install Trump is just a slight of hand LMAO
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47259 on: July 22, 2025, 10:37:51 AM »
The first statement out of his mouth is a lie - there was no evidence Russia hacked the DNC. 


https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1947664281941504457?s=46&t=Cp3usE5AFRqIBrUa4s1Gtg
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47260 on: July 22, 2025, 10:38:31 AM »
I didn't say acceptable, I said "not illegal".  To me, it's just dirty tricks.

In my OPINION, the House Comer committee generated stuff about the "Biden crime family" much of which was ... not convincing, to me.  It was a made for TV exercise never meant to impeach Joe.  Entirely legal.  It happens, often.

If someone has illegal income from "China", the easiest way to catch them is on tax evasion, or it can be proven if they reported said income.  If Joe got illegal income, his returns are public.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47261 on: July 22, 2025, 10:41:14 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 22, 2025, 10:38:31 AM
I didn't say acceptable, I said "not illegal".  To me, it's just dirty tricks.

In my OPINION, the House Comer committee generated stuff about the "Biden crime family" much of which was ... not convincing, to me.  It was a made for TV exercise never meant to impeach Joe.  Entirely legal.  It happens, often.

If someone has illegal income from "China", the easiest way to catch them is on tax evasion, or it can be proven if they reported said income.  If Joe got illegal income, his returns are public.
Pardon me?

10 percent for the big guy and all that.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47262 on: July 22, 2025, 10:43:24 AM »
OK, then did Joe report any income?  Just because someone said "10%" doesn't mean it happened.

It could easily be a negotiating ploy to wring more money.

And I know Hunter was convicted of evasion, or plead guilty, if that is different.

If JOE cheated on his taxes, prove it, and convict him.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47263 on: July 22, 2025, 10:49:12 AM »
Quote from: brisco_0317 on July 22, 2025, 10:34:15 AM
Changing the intelligence from Russia had no preference to Russia hacked the election to install Trump is just a slight of hand LMAO
The documents don’t appear to say either of those things.

At this point, I don’t think that matters to a lot of people, but that’s life I guess.
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