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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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bayareabadger

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47222 on: July 22, 2025, 09:14:56 AM »
As I've said before, if Trump was on a "list" it would have been released on Biden's inauguration day, or early October 2024.

Gonna have to search elsewhere for dirt on Trump.
The logic is that he's protecting something massive, otherwise he'd burn the pervs on the "list" if such a thing existed. Wouldn't that logic extend to the former president?

Like, the forces that are apparently keeping it secret can tell Trump to do this whole silly song and dance that doesn't help him, instead of just releasing the files? But those forces weren't strong enough to tell the last admin to not dump info to help themselves?

Suuuuureeeee, partner. (To be clear, I don't think there's any smoking gun in there)

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« Reply #47223 on: July 22, 2025, 09:18:11 AM »
When there is even hint of proof, let us know.  In the meantime- not really “shielding “ from one side is it? 
There's no proof there's anything clandestine in there at all, but it doesn't stop belief. 

I am, however skeptical, that if a fella like the president, who showed an obvious affinity for younger women and was somewhat close to Epstein, could stop the release of info and did, people into the whole conspiracy thing would jump to say he was in on it.  But if he's aligned with them, that bridge remains uncrossed. 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47224 on: July 22, 2025, 09:19:36 AM »
The logic is that he's protecting something massive, otherwise he'd burn the pervs on the "list" if such a thing existed. Wouldn't that logic extend to the former president?

Like, the forces that are apparently keeping it secret can tell Trump to do this whole silly song and dance that doesn't help him, instead of just releasing the files? But those forces weren't strong enough to tell the last admin to not dump info to help themselves?

Suuuuureeeee, partner. (To be clear, I don't think there's any smoking gun in there)

No one cares about anyone involved with Epstein except Trump.  If there was anything damaging to Trump in those files, it would’ve leaked under Biden.  

This is a distraction from what Obama did. 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47225 on: July 22, 2025, 09:20:27 AM »
Wake me up when Trump pardons his family and fake investigators.
That's a dodge. 

Of undermining the president with some BS was treason, the current president would be in prison for treason, unless the old admin was quite beneficent, which you do not believe it is. 

That being treason is some banana republic nonsense. 

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« Reply #47226 on: July 22, 2025, 09:21:52 AM »
No one cares about anyone involved with Epstein except Trump.  If there was anything damaging to Trump in those files, it would’ve leaked under Biden. 

This is a distraction from what Obama did.
It was a distraction despite being a story far before the Obama stuff dropped? I don't think that's how distractions work.

The Obama stuff did drop and start to pull attention from the Epstein quagmire. Wonder if there's a word for what that's doing?

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47227 on: July 22, 2025, 09:24:07 AM »
The MSM and lunatic left's machinations over the hypothetical Epstein list reminds me of what transpired while awaiting the Mueller report.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47228 on: July 22, 2025, 09:24:39 AM »
That's a dodge.

Of undermining the president with some BS was treason, the current president would be in prison for treason, unless the old admin was quite beneficent, which you do not believe it is.

That being treason is some banana republic nonsense.
I disagree.

It's a point that sheds light on the previous administration's outright disdain for laws.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47229 on: July 22, 2025, 09:25:36 AM »
The MSM and lunatic left's machinations over the hypothetical Epstein list reminds me of what transpired while awaiting the Mueller report.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47230 on: July 22, 2025, 09:28:07 AM »
I disagree.

It's a point that sheds light on the previous administration's outright disdain for laws.
You’ve already explained that you feel undermining the president with some BS is grounds for treason, legally.

Since they were so amoral and were willing to break the law, why wouldn’t they just use it to put him in prison? It would’ve been super easy.

Unless this is all rhetoric, wishcasting and complaining.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47231 on: July 22, 2025, 09:32:36 AM »
It was a distraction despite being a story far before the Obama stuff dropped? I don't think that's how distractions work.

The Obama stuff did drop and start to pull attention from the Epstein quagmire. Wonder if there's a word for what that's doing?

Sure, no one knew the Obama stuff would be dropping requiring preemptive attempts to distract lol.  The WSJ article came out of nowhere lol

Notice how you won’t talk about the Obama stuff?  Looks like the distraction is working…

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47232 on: July 22, 2025, 09:33:18 AM »
Setting aside the political machinations and such, the Epstein thing mostly strikes me as a dog that caught the car situation. It’s a great thing to make a ruckus about as long as you don’t have many of the levers of power.

And then you get them, and either there’s nothing there or there’s some things you can’t release, and you either have to take the PR hit or find a way to wriggle out. 

And the efforts to do either of those smoothly have been … poor. 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47233 on: July 22, 2025, 09:34:02 AM »
You’ve already explained that you feel undermining the president with some BS is grounds for treason, legally.

Since they were so amoral and were willing to break the law, why wouldn’t they just use it to put him in prison? It would’ve been super easy.

Unless this is all rhetoric, wishcasting and complaining.

That was supposed to be the purpose of the Mueller investigation.  

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47234 on: July 22, 2025, 09:34:19 AM »
Sure, no one knew the Obama stuff would be dropping requiring preemptive attempts to distract lol.  The WSJ article came out of nowhere lol

Notice how you won’t talk about the Obama stuff?  Looks like the distraction is working…
It’s because I’m good at not falling for obvious distractions. 


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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47235 on: July 22, 2025, 09:35:22 AM »
Setting aside the political machinations and such, the Epstein thing mostly strikes me as a dog that caught the car situation. It’s a great thing to make a ruckus about as long as you don’t have many of the levers of power.

And then you get them, and either there’s nothing there or there’s some things you can’t release, and you either have to take the PR hit or find a way to wriggle out.

And the efforts to do either of those smoothly have been … poor.

And it provides a great way for you to dodge what Obama did - distractions work!

 

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