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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46774 on: July 13, 2025, 01:27:19 AM »

https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1943734838718017717
lol. the hilarious thing about the video is not that it is missing a full minute plus and the metadata is wonky- it's that they actually released the useless piece of shit which doesn't show anything but tiny bit of teeth to the staircase that goes up Epstein's cell block. that video was useless in the first place from the word go in proving their case point blank period- so not sure why they ever even released it in the first place. I guess they really think people are that fucking retarded? but hey this is America we are talking about and huge swaths of the public are absolute fucking retards so maybe they thought they'd just buy it and that the MAGA cult would fall in line. huge miscalculation on that and this shit is blowing up in Trump's face.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46775 on: July 13, 2025, 01:29:18 AM »
The boss ordered the hit.

The only way that move makes any sense (and "make sense" in the transactional, zero-sum, everything-is-leverage, mob boss way that this administration runs) is if Trump is balls deep into the list. You know damn well if there were ANY Democrats on there, everyone in the White House would be shouting it from the rooftops.
hate to break it to you, but there isn't going to be a list and there likely never was a list. most if not all evidence of blackmail was likely long destroyed already by the intel agencies that he was accumulating said blackmail material for. 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46776 on: July 13, 2025, 01:30:15 AM »
People are so tied up with who is on the list.  They all flew all over with him, and I assume did not have sex with children.

The issue is how many powerful people told others to look the other way for 20 years while he, and a few others horrifically abused children.  Its not who is on the list.  Its who knew what he was doing and did nothing because he was an intelligence asset.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46777 on: July 13, 2025, 01:38:46 AM »
She was a very good AG here in Florida. Incompetence is not the issue. Her hands are tied, and she should have known they would be.

Too many powerful people are on the list - to the point that national security comes into play.
a) there is no official list. never was.

b) exposing powerful people does not harm national security. this is nonsense.

c) what might "harm national security" according to the state- which of course is obviously nothing but absolute sorry bullshit excuses on their end- would be arguing that none of this can ever come to see the light of day and that exposing "sources and methods" and admitting to the American public that CIA was involved with Epstein and looked the other way and even participated with & covered for a foreign governments (Israel aka our greatest ally...LMFAO) intelligence service (Mossad) while Epstein was fucking American children and running a blackmail ring as an access agent for a foreign entity on US soil would "harm national security".

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46778 on: July 13, 2025, 05:48:12 AM »
The term "children" here includes girls 16 years old, right?  That's below "age of consent" in most states, but it's not a 9 year old either.  I don't mean to make light ot the situation in any way, they were "trafficked" apparently.

I can see how someone unwittingly might have take the flight to the island for what was described as a nice location and no engaged in sex with a 16 year old, or even at all.  Or they might have done it and not bothered to ask about age because "she looked 18".

I don't know of any real evidence this was some operation by the CIA et al.  But I haven't followed this closely at all, the storyline is repulsive to me.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46779 on: July 13, 2025, 07:32:12 AM »
Ty Cobb????
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46780 on: July 13, 2025, 07:11:02 PM »
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46781 on: July 14, 2025, 07:43:10 AM »
sounds reasonable to me
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46782 on: July 14, 2025, 09:26:52 AM »
Good stuff.

but come on man.  Hurricane?  Trumps fault.  Flood?  Trumps fault.  War in zimbabwherever ?

Trumps fault.  Now you have people in here who are making up conspiracy theories about Trump, with absolutely zero shreds of evidence. 

it’s so stale and so yesterday.  95% of the crap he has been accused of has been debunked, but it is lost on those with TDS.  And as a reminder- I don’t like the guy at all. 

I think the nature of being into politics means people are perpetually deranged. We had four years on here where I learned the former president was to blame for a great many things. Wars, train crashes, hurricane response, etc. 

On the Epstein front, that's been going for a while, they were friends, it's always a space for assuming this and that, owing to it being a conspiracy theory (especially with the dog catching the car element).

I can see the argument Trump is surrounded by more derangement. Is some of that liberals being over screechy? For sure. But he's also a guy who acts in a perpetually norm-defying way, a way we'd consider uncivil. And I honestly think if a liberal president said the kinds of things he often does, the comments from people on the right who get into this stuff wouldn't sound worlds different. 

Two sides, same coin, similar experience. 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46783 on: July 14, 2025, 09:29:13 AM »
The Epstein thing was pretty obviously mishandled, at least by Bondi.  I don't see any other explanation for that.

This was a mostly sleeping dog.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46784 on: July 14, 2025, 09:41:03 AM »
I think the nature of being into politics means people are perpetually deranged. We had four years on here where I learned the former president was to blame for a great many things. Wars, train crashes, hurricane response, etc.

On the Epstein front, that's been going for a while, they were friends, it's always a space for assuming this and that, owing to it being a conspiracy theory (especially with the dog catching the car element).

I can see the argument Trump is surrounded by more derangement. Is some of that liberals being over screechy? For sure. But he's also a guy who acts in a perpetually norm-defying way, a way we'd consider uncivil. And I honestly think if a liberal president said the kinds of things he often does, the comments from people on the right who get into this stuff wouldn't sound worlds different.

Two sides, same coin, similar experience.
Someone was - but not him.

FEMA's response to the train crash and to the major hurricanes was a joke. Trust me. That organization needed to be gutted.

Now responders (who are mostly local and will be even more so moving forward) who actually care - they won't skip houses with political signs or flags.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46785 on: July 14, 2025, 09:47:44 AM »
I THINK what we hear a lot that "people say" are the extremes on both sides (or the famous, which can mean the same thing).  We hear little from some Democratic Congressman from say Colorado, who might well be a pretty rational person, or some Republican from Alabama, same thing.  We do hear a lot form zealots, extremists, folks who have worked hard to appear often in the media, and of course officials in higher office, which makes sense, but even for them, we hear more from the folks who like to say ... weird things, than other comparable leaders who sound pretty rational.

Political moderates don't post political stuff on social media, or if they do, nobody pays them any mind.  Same with many politicians.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46786 on: July 14, 2025, 09:48:48 AM »
I think the Epstein crap is now just a distraction from Biden allowing his staff to pardon people like Fauci. 
The Epstein crap was surfaced by Bondi.  Without her, this is not a news story at all.


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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46787 on: July 14, 2025, 09:51:00 AM »
extremes and weird things get clicks

no one cares about moderate and/or rational stuff
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