header pic

Perhaps the BEST B1G Forum anywhere, here at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

The 'Old' CFN/Scout Crowd- Enjoy Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching 'takes' and discussing topics surrounding the game. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE site and to take part in our community- a community with you- the user, the fan, -and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean place to interact.


Author

Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

 (Read 3617540 times)

bayareabadger

  • Legend
  • ****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 9595
  • Liked:
Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46760 on: July 11, 2025, 08:57:40 AM »
The concept of "checks and balances" is pretty astute, I don't know how else things could work well, though some other countries have of course different ways of doing things.  The concept of "innocent until proven" is another great concept.  Trial by jury, I never thought up another good way to do that. 

The concept of a Senate is good, I think, though one can certainly argue the compromise on its structure is ... debatable.  The concept of the Electoral College has strengths, and weaknesses, like most things.  Democrats don't like it, Republicans usually do, because it favors or disfavors their strengths.  No need to get into them, the EC isn't going away, though the Compact of the States could change things without an Amendment.  Maybe.

Can you imagine California voters learning their electors voted for Trump?  Ha.
Been reading a book that gives us somewhat interesting history of the Senate. Seems like the original intent was to apply elite wisdom as a sort of restrictor plate against populism.

There have been some interesting era where that could be considered good or bad.

brisco_0317

  • Recruit
  • **
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 73
  • Liked:
Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46761 on: July 11, 2025, 09:04:02 AM »
$430,000 in legal fees for an elected official to prep for a congressional hearing?  It’s like Monopoly money to these people. 


https://twitter.com/wallstreetapes/status/1943548716058841445?s=46&t=Cp3usE5AFRqIBrUa4s1Gtg

brisco_0317

  • Recruit
  • **
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 73
  • Liked:
Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46762 on: July 11, 2025, 09:13:17 AM »
This is pretty funny, hair gel tweets about the poor children!  Turns out this was a marijuana grow operation that apparently employs children.  So he’s now virtue signaling for the use of illegal children to be used for growing marijuana LOL


https://twitter.com/cbpcommissioner/status/1943511972441391376?s=46&t=Cp3usE5AFRqIBrUa4s1Gtg

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 85229
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46763 on: July 11, 2025, 09:19:58 AM »
$430,000 in legal fees for an elected official to prep for a congressional hearing?  It’s like Monopoly money to these people.


https://twitter.com/wallstreetapes/status/1943548716058841445?s=46&t=Cp3usE5AFRqIBrUa4s1Gtg
I find "Twitter" to be an unusually poor and misleading source for "news".  

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 47227
  • Liked:
Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46764 on: July 11, 2025, 09:26:57 AM »
$430,000 in legal fees for an elected official to prep for a congressional hearing?  It’s like Monopoly money to these people.

sounds like a couple law firms were beneficiaries.  I'm guessing the billing is a bit ridiculous.   
Purchasing influence? future campaign donations? 
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 85229
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46765 on: July 11, 2025, 09:31:52 AM »
I have a hard time believing those figures.  I might if there was something behind them more than a random tweet thingee.

brisco_0317

  • Recruit
  • **
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 73
  • Liked:
Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46766 on: July 11, 2025, 09:32:31 AM »
I find "Twitter" to be an unusually poor and misleading source for "news". 

Same with a local Minneapolis news station? :73:

brisco_0317

  • Recruit
  • **
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 73
  • Liked:
Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46767 on: July 11, 2025, 09:35:26 AM »
I have a hard time believing those figures.  I might if there was something behind them more than a random tweet thingee.

It’s not, Kare11 is the NBC affiliate in Minneapolis.  Do you have any reason to believe they would lie?

brisco_0317

  • Recruit
  • **
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 73
  • Liked:
Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46768 on: July 11, 2025, 09:36:51 AM »
sounds like a couple law firms were beneficiaries.  I'm guessing the billing is a bit ridiculous. 
Purchasing influence? future campaign donations?

Or elected officials using taxpayer money for CYA?

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 85229
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46769 on: July 11, 2025, 09:38:28 AM »
Tim Walz blasted for costing Minnesota taxpayers $430K in legal prep ahead of Hill hearing

A little more credible, to me.  Maybe it's so.  I would have expected wider coverage of the story, but perhaps not.

I remain suspicious, and leary.

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 85229
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46770 on: July 11, 2025, 09:51:35 AM »
Years ago, I had "deposition training".  It lasted about an hour and a half.  I found it quite interesting, and it taught me how a clever lawyer would tie me up in knots.  I was given a script, a history if you will, about the topic, made up, but I had to respond as if it were true.  I was never deposed for real, fortunately, but it was useful being somewhat prepared.

The few Congressional hearings I've heard have obvious questions not anywhere near as tough as what I faced.  It's grandstanding, you know what they are going to ask.  Maybe a politician could benefit from an hour of "prep" like what I had.  Run through it so you feel prepared and understand what is going to be asked and how/whether to respond.

Being prepped is not going to cost half a million obviously.  The governor's office should respond to the charge more clearly (but won't).

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 47227
  • Liked:
Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46771 on: July 11, 2025, 10:07:54 AM »
yup, I'd like to see the bill
how many hours at what rate????
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

brisco_0317

  • Recruit
  • **
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 73
  • Liked:
Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46772 on: July 11, 2025, 10:09:26 AM »
Years ago, I had "deposition training".  It lasted about an hour and a half.  I found it quite interesting, and it taught me how a clever lawyer would tie me up in knots.  I was given a script, a history if you will, about the topic, made up, but I had to respond as if it were true.  I was never deposed for real, fortunately, but it was useful being somewhat prepared.

The few Congressional hearings I've heard have obvious questions not anywhere near as tough as what I faced.  It's grandstanding, you know what they are going to ask.  Maybe a politician could benefit from an hour of "prep" like what I had.  Run through it so you feel prepared and understand what is going to be asked and how/whether to respond.

Being prepped is not going to cost half a million obviously.  The governor's office should respond to the charge more clearly (but won't).

As the report states, if he needed legal advice that’s why he has an attorney general.  Why the need for private attorneys?

bayareabadger

  • Legend
  • ****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 9595
  • Liked:
Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46773 on: July 11, 2025, 10:09:53 AM »
I’d be interested if this is a case of something out of line or something built into the structure of these things. 

Like is this something unusual? Or all all these dog and pony shows always expensive, but it’s rarely brought up for reasons of creating content. 

 

Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.