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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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utee94

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46270 on: July 02, 2025, 02:55:12 PM »
So you believe in rolling back government on all fronts and read the defensive tackle first on the option instead of the end!
I can go with that... :)

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46271 on: July 02, 2025, 02:56:53 PM »
I can go with that... :)
The midline single read options honestly one of my favorite play. It’s basically almost iso for the quarterback. Just tremendous stuff when you have the right scheme in place.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46272 on: July 02, 2025, 02:57:06 PM »
Make Pitchers Hit Again.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46273 on: July 02, 2025, 03:12:31 PM »
Yes I viscerally reject everyone's BS.  I can't speak for anyone else, I can only speak for myself.  But anyone who's voting Democrat every time, or Republican every time, is almost certainly a participant of bullshit identity politics.
I reject this characterization.  

My own personal ideology is well to the right of the mainstream of the Republican Party so I've literally never had an ideological reason to vote for a Democrat for anything.  I've voted for Democrats for personal reasons (didn't like/trust the R, or liked/trusted the D).  

Ideologically I don't always like the Republican but I pretty much always like the Democrat less.  

That isn't participating in BS identity politics, it is determining upon reflection that the R is ideologically closer to me than the D in almost any possible election.  

As far as third party voting . . .
As a practical matter it only really matters if you live in one of the handful of states that are competitive enough that your vote might actually matter.  As an Ohioan I am very familiar with this.  Ohio voted for the winning candidate in all but two Presidential elections from 1896-2016*.  My point is that for most of my life Ohio was a very Purple state so my vote could plausibly matter.  When your vote matters, voting for a third-party candidate is basically just helping whichever side is further from your own.  If you don't believe me, ask the leftwing liberals from Florida who voted for Nader in 2000 or the relatively conservative voters from Ohio who voted for Perot in 1992.  

Now that Ohio is a decidedly red state I'm a lot more open to voting for a third-party candidate as a protest.  Red State Texans such as yourself and Blue State Californians, can vote for the Libertarian or the Green or the man on the moon because you already know which way your state is going to vote so it doesn't matter.  I'm adjusting to living that reality in Ohio.  

*The exceptions where 1944 where Ohio voted for Republican Thomas Dewey largely because his running-mate was Ohio Governor John Bricker and 1960 where Ohio voted for Nixon over Kennedy in a race that was VERY close both nationally and in Ohio.  

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46274 on: July 02, 2025, 03:18:28 PM »

As far as third party voting . . .
As a practical matter it only really matters if you live in one of the handful of states that are competitive enough that your vote might actually matter.  As an Ohioan I am very familiar with this.  Ohio voted for the winning candidate in all but two Presidential elections from 1896-2016*.  My point is that for most of my life Ohio was a very Purple state so my vote could plausibly matter.  When your vote matters, voting for a third-party candidate is basically just helping whichever side is further from your own.  If you don't believe me, ask the leftwing liberals from Florida who voted for Nader in 2000 or the relatively conservative voters from Ohio who voted for Perot in 1992. 

Now that Ohio is a decidedly red state I'm a lot more open to voting for a third-party candidate as a protest.  Red State Texans such as yourself and Blue State Californians, can vote for the Libertarian or the Green or the man on the moon because you already know which way your state is going to vote so it doesn't matter.  I'm adjusting to living that reality in Ohio. 

*The exceptions where 1944 where Ohio voted for Republican Thomas Dewey largely because his running-mate was Ohio Governor John Bricker and 1960 where Ohio voted for Nixon over Kennedy in a race that was VERY close both nationally and in Ohio. 

I'd vote as I have, regardless.  My county is actually going to go to the Dems every time.  Austin is quite liberal.  And as more Texas counties flip, the Dems will get closer with every election.  Since I don't "fear" Texas "turning blue" any more or less than I "fear" Texas "being red" I will continue to vote 3rd party even if it does flip.




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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46276 on: July 02, 2025, 04:02:26 PM »
someone get Nic Cage on the phone right now and maybe we can AI Sean Connery (RIP)....got a great idea for a movie sequel.



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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46277 on: July 02, 2025, 04:08:10 PM »
I'd vote as I have, regardless.  My county is actually going to go to the Dems every time.  Austin is quite liberal.  And as more Texas counties flip, the Dems will get closer with every election.  Since I don't "fear" Texas "turning blue" any more or less than I "fear" Texas "being red" I will continue to vote 3rd party even if it does flip.



I fear someone won’t flip my burger on the grill and it ends up well done. 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46278 on: July 02, 2025, 04:19:47 PM »
I fear someone won’t flip my burger on the grill and it ends up well done.
is this a pro stance on unfettered unchecked mass illegal immigration? 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46279 on: July 02, 2025, 04:26:55 PM »
is this a pro stance on unfettered unchecked mass illegal immigration?
Are you suggesting that citizens and/or legal immigrants can NOT flip a burger? 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46280 on: July 02, 2025, 04:32:18 PM »
Are you suggesting that citizens and/or legal immigrants can NOT flip a burger?
no, I was attempting to make a joke. more or less.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46281 on: July 02, 2025, 04:32:51 PM »
no, I was attempting to make a joke. more or less.
I know.  Sorry.  I shoulda done one of these. 


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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46282 on: July 02, 2025, 04:40:23 PM »
some people are just fucking weird....


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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46283 on: July 02, 2025, 04:41:27 PM »
Let me know the last statewide election decided by a single vote, and I'll maybe give it more thought.

And sure, what if everyone felt that way?

I'd be a danged fool to feel differently.

 

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