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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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bayareabadger

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46186 on: July 02, 2025, 08:19:33 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 02, 2025, 07:56:45 AM
Paramount says it has agreed to pay $16 million to settle a lawsuit filed by President Donald Trump over the editing of CBS’ “60 Minutes” interview with then-Vice President Kamala Harris in October.
Really an ugly outcome there.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46187 on: July 02, 2025, 08:23:15 AM »
the press is ugly
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46188 on: July 02, 2025, 08:38:54 AM »
Every semi-functional legal system in the world favors wealth and the wealthy, it's not something novel in the US.

It's not the only advantage the wealthy have of course, but it's one.  Most wealthy don't break laws because they don't have to, and the penalty to them IF they got caught is quite severe.  IF they got caught and then convicted.
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« Reply #46189 on: July 02, 2025, 08:51:14 AM »
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46190 on: July 02, 2025, 08:54:46 AM »
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46191 on: July 02, 2025, 09:02:51 AM »
As I understand this Bill, amidst all the angst and celebrations, among other things it puts a pretty modest work requirement (80 hours a month) on Medicaid and SNAP for "able bodied".  I have also read most Medicaid recipients already have a job, they work, they are just poor.  Clinton signed a similar bill in 1996 dealing with welfare work requirements.

So, how does this throw however many million off Medicaid?
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46192 on: July 02, 2025, 09:08:18 AM »
It doesn't.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46193 on: July 02, 2025, 09:12:04 AM »
pull a very large and therefore very scary number out of your ass
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46194 on: July 02, 2025, 09:57:43 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 02, 2025, 08:54:46 AM
How so?
Well, the thing that was being sued over is functional legal nonsense. It’s protected speech in a range of ways.

but by many accounts, Paramount is folding because they are under the belief that if they do not placate the president financially, his administration will use its regulatory powers to stand in the way of some business they want to do. 
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46195 on: July 02, 2025, 10:00:35 AM »
Litigation is very expensive.  Paying often is the cheaper course, and they won't admit any wrongdoing.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46196 on: July 02, 2025, 10:04:12 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 02, 2025, 09:02:51 AM
As I understand this Bill, amidst all the angst and celebrations, among other things it puts a pretty modest work requirement (80 hours a month) on Medicaid and SNAP for "able bodied".  I have also read most Medicaid recipients already have a job, they work, they are just poor.  Clinton signed a similar bill in 1996 dealing with welfare work requirements.

So, how does this throw however many million off Medicaid?
Without delving into the many millions number, the thought is that you can create a paperwork snarl that effectively limits actual usage.

Heavy bureaucracy can often be a very effective deterrent. At least that’s the theory.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46197 on: July 02, 2025, 10:05:16 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on July 02, 2025, 09:57:43 AM
Well, the thing that was being sued over is functional legal nonsense. It’s protected speech in a range of ways.

but by many accounts, Paramount is folding because they are under the belief that if they do not placate the president financially, his administration will use its regulatory powers to stand in the way of some business they want to do.

They are settling in order to avoid discovery.  It would have been fascinating to see the internal communications and possibly even coordination between the network and the Harris campaign. 
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« Reply #46198 on: July 02, 2025, 10:06:24 AM »
Quote from: brisco_0317 on July 02, 2025, 10:05:16 AM
They are settling in order to avoid discovery.  It would have been fascinating to see the internal communications and possibly even coordination between the network and the Harris campaign.
This.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46199 on: July 02, 2025, 10:07:49 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 02, 2025, 10:00:35 AM
Litigation is very expensive.  Paying often is the cheaper course, and they won't admit any wrongdoing.


That is true, though in this case, there’s a pretty good chance it could get thrown out before it got expensive.

But sometimes there are… Other concerns.
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