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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45402 on: June 18, 2025, 08:55:41 AM »
Democrats want a tax applied on higher incomes. 
They like to "attack" billionaires but then you look at who their donors are.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45403 on: June 18, 2025, 09:04:22 AM »
As I often note, a higher tax in earned income would have near zero impact in billionaires.  But compromise means each side gets, and gives.  It doesn't mean the entire deal is what either would really want.

I'm not sure a SS surtax would really raise enough revenue anyway, maybe it would help.

The longer "we" wait on a solution the more painful it will be.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45404 on: June 18, 2025, 09:05:23 AM »
I've noted before on the minimum wage, push it to the highest it's ever been adjusted for inflation, 1968 I think, and attach a COLA, and done.

Should we have one?  Many would say no, but we do, and it's not going away.  Just deal with it and move on.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45405 on: June 18, 2025, 09:05:54 AM »
They like to "attack" billionaires but then you look at who their donors are.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45406 on: June 18, 2025, 09:06:09 AM »
About the deficit and the debt?  I don't think there exists a solution, compromise or not, but there might be a slight window to start trimming the debt as a percent of GDP, maybe.


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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45408 on: June 18, 2025, 09:24:35 AM »
Why has Iran been enriching U235 to 60% for years now, when nuclear power reactors only require 3-5%?

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45409 on: June 18, 2025, 09:27:40 AM »
if this enrichment HAS been going on for over 60 years, why wouldn't they have created a bomb by now?

does this enrichment take 70 years?
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45410 on: June 18, 2025, 09:30:16 AM »
60% for years.

Not 60 years.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45411 on: June 18, 2025, 09:31:35 AM »
if this enrichment HAS been going on for over 60 years, why wouldn't they have created a bomb by now?

does this enrichment take 70 years?
Huh?  Who said it's been going on 60 years???

They were enriching to 20% since the 80s/90s.  They publicly announced they were enriching to 60% in 2021.

There is not a peaceful use for U235 enriched to 60%.


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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45412 on: June 18, 2025, 09:35:29 AM »
well, EXCUSE me

my point is......... this has been going on for decades, maybe longer.
why haven't they created the bomb by now?
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45413 on: June 18, 2025, 09:37:49 AM »
well, EXCUSE me

my point is......... this has been going on for decades, maybe longer.
why haven't they created the bomb by now?
Because they're being sanctioned into the stone age and can't get all of the parts necessary, or at least it's very difficult?

Because they suck at it?

Could be any number of reasons.  Lots of countries haven't been able to develop nuclear weapons even though they're trying.

Better question-- why are they enriching U235 to 60%?

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45414 on: June 18, 2025, 09:39:12 AM »
Why has Iran been enriching U235 to 60% for years now, when nuclear power reactors only require 3-5%?
There are some medical uses for 20%.  One might argue 60% is easier to transport and then dilute to 20%, but I wouldn't.  

I think Iran could have built a nuclear DEVICE 20 years ago if they wanted.  Then they realized they have a problem with delivery.  Our first A bombs weighed 10,000 pounds.  A country today building it's first DEVICE wouldn't care about weight, initially, but to build a BOMB, they would.  So, that means at least second generation.

Then to deliver it, you really need a missile with throw weight and range, and you need to turn said device into warhead, which means fusing and reentry shielding and decent targetting ability (CEP).  So, I THINK Iran stopped weapons development, except in theory, and focused on missiles.  They now have a missile with a 750 kg throw weight and range to hit Israel.  That could be enough.  

So, they now need an operable warhead that functions in reentry and appropriate fusing etc. that weighs 750 kg or less.  That would be difficult.  So, I SUSPECT they wanted to have 60% to make it a short term operation should they decide to make said warhead.

Here's the rub in all of this, our SECOND A bomb used plutonium, not enriched uranium.  Most nuclear weapons today use Pu, not U (or in addition to U).  Pu is more efficient.  Pu can only be made in special nuclear reactors, then it has to be refined and purified to the preferred isotope of Pu.  Were I to want an A bomb, I'd focus on Pu, not enriched U.


 

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