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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Cincydawg

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #44058 on: April 26, 2025, 12:57:51 PM »
From what I've read, the death penalty isn't much of a deterrent to crime (vs life without).  Maybe that's wrong, dunno.  I've also read it costs more to execute than keep for 40+ years, which sounds rather odd.  Maybe that's wrong.

Carrying it out remains pretty rare.  One usually makes the news because of that, along with the usual vigils and protests etc.

I have a philosophical objections to allowing the State to execute an individual, but that doesn't mean I'm against it in practical terms.  But, if practically, it really is not a deterrent and not cheaper, I'm against it.

Most heinous crimes are state crimes, like the usual murder cases.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #44059 on: April 26, 2025, 02:37:38 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on April 26, 2025, 12:11:01 PM
By semantics, you mean, “reality.” There are still people on federal death, and the admin can push for the federal penalties.

Also, the blood on hands doesn’t really make sense unless you’re being dramatic. The logic that unless the killer isn’t killed, the blood is actually on the hands of the people who don’t kill them? Doesn’t follow.

It’s sort of funny, I assumed when this place opened up to more politics, I assumed we’d get some nuance and policy talk. Instead when something starts down a policy road, it veers into a ditch of heated rhetoric. I suppose that’s why politics are what they are.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #44060 on: April 26, 2025, 02:59:28 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on April 26, 2025, 12:11:01 PM
By semantics, you mean, “reality.” There are still people on federal death, and the admin can push for the federal penalties.

Also, the blood on hands doesn’t really make sense unless you’re being dramatic. The logic that unless the killer isn’t killed, the blood is actually on the hands of the people who don’t kill them? Doesn’t follow.

It’s sort of funny, I assumed when this place opened up to more politics, I assumed we’d get some nuance and policy talk. Instead when something starts down a policy road, it veers into a ditch of heated rhetoric. I suppose that’s why politics are what they are.
No, I stand by the statement. The Federal Death Penalty has been effectively abolished (unless you kill jews or blacks).

Biden commuted the Death Penalties of everyone on Federal Death Row with only three exceptions:
  • A guy who killed jews
  • A guy who killed blacks
  • The remaining Boston Marathon Bomber
Given that it takes decades for the Feds to get around to putting these animals down, the Federal Death Penalty has been effectively abolished.

Note that many of those on Federal Death Row got there for killing LEO's. Last night I attended an event honoring fallen LEO's, there were 186 in 2024. The animals who killed them should be put down but thanks to the policies of the pro-crime party, they will not. There is blood on the hands of everyone who supports them.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #44061 on: April 26, 2025, 03:08:46 PM »
List of Federal Death Row Prisoners | Death Penalty Information Center

Three remaining on Federal death row.  But many capital crimes like murder are not Federal offenses except in specific cases.

Death Row Information

Just Texas alone has more than I counted.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #44062 on: April 26, 2025, 03:09:29 PM »
As of January 1, 2025, there were 2,092 death row inmates in the United States, including 46 women.[1] The number of death row inmates changes frequently with new convictions, appellate decisions overturning conviction or sentence alone, commutations, or deaths (through execution or otherwise).[2] Due to this fluctuation as well as lag and inconsistencies in inmate reporting procedures across jurisdictions, the information may become outdated.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #44063 on: April 26, 2025, 04:08:24 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 26, 2025, 12:11:43 PM
So one of the 5 yr olds have hijacked your account,that explains the responses. understanding ignoramuses and swallowers at an early age - absolutely smashing
Exhibit A on not letting it go and moving on.  But I see we have no teeth behind our policing here.

Please rename the thread to something accurate.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44064 on: April 26, 2025, 04:19:35 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 26, 2025, 04:08:24 PM
Please rename the thread to something accurate.
You're welcome.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44065 on: April 26, 2025, 11:35:40 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on April 26, 2025, 02:59:28 PM
No, I stand by the statement. The Federal Death Penalty has been effectively abolished (unless you kill jews or blacks).

Biden commuted the Death Penalties of everyone on Federal Death Row with only three exceptions:
  • A guy who killed jews
  • A guy who killed blacks
  • The remaining Boston Marathon Bomber
Given that it takes decades for the Feds to get around to putting these animals down, the Federal Death Penalty has been effectively abolished.

Note that many of those on Federal Death Row got there for killing LEO's. Last night I attended an event honoring fallen LEO's, there were 186 in 2024. The animals who killed them should be put down but thanks to the policies of the pro-crime party, they will not. There is blood on the hands of everyone who supports them.


I hope for chat of policy, we get some level of histrionics, going on about blacks and Jews and animals.

We opened things up for this?
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44066 on: April 27, 2025, 12:41:08 AM »
The White Sox are worse, and more painful to perceive, than any views posted here.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44067 on: April 27, 2025, 02:26:02 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on April 27, 2025, 12:41:08 AM
The White Sox are worse, and more painful to perceive, than any views posted here.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44068 on: April 27, 2025, 08:08:20 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 26, 2025, 04:08:24 PM
Exhibit A on not letting it go and moving on.  But I see we have no teeth behind our policing here.

Please rename the thread to something accurate.
M'Kay tinkerbell hi 5ing yourself squeezing in the last word
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44069 on: April 27, 2025, 08:34:37 AM »
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44070 on: April 27, 2025, 08:53:52 AM »
That's a stretch but depending on their platform interesting. Politicians have been on the take for so long and those two already have enough coin so theoretically couldn't be bought. Black mailed perhaps but not bought
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44071 on: April 27, 2025, 09:48:17 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 27, 2025, 08:53:52 AM
those two already have enough coin 
No such thing.
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