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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42406 on: February 27, 2025, 04:21:43 PM »
Sabbath was better without Ozzy.

Ozzy was better without Sabbath.
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« Reply #42407 on: February 27, 2025, 04:27:20 PM »
Sabbath was better without Ozzy.

Ozzy was better without Sabbath.
Aside from Heaven and Hell, I can't say I'm a big fan of any of their post Ozzy stuff.  Now, that was their first post-Ozzy album, so it might of been part of a regular band decline, but better?

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« Reply #42408 on: February 27, 2025, 04:29:35 PM »
Yeah, there isn't much that post Dio Sabbath is better than. 

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« Reply #42409 on: February 27, 2025, 04:30:26 PM »
In my opinion, yes. 

Dio added a lot to that band live, and when he left Ian Gilliam elevated it even more.

The latter's rendition of Children of the Grave still gives me chills.
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« Reply #42410 on: February 27, 2025, 04:43:48 PM »
In my opinion, yes.

Dio added a lot to that band live, and when he left Ian Gilliam elevated it even more.

The latter's rendition of Children of the Grave still gives me chills.
Never saw them live.  I do think Gilliam was better than Dio though.  And I'd be ok saying Gilliam was a better front man than Ozzy.  Like I said earlier all bands hit that point, and so saying they were worse post Ozzy I wasn't attributing to Ozzy leaving

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« Reply #42411 on: February 27, 2025, 04:48:24 PM »
In the realm of political nonsense, there seems to be some kind of show of revealing Epstein files. 

In the midst of what seems to be an unserious rollout, the official GOP House Judiciary Twitter account (a thing that shouldn’t exist), put up a post that said “BREAKING: Epstein Files Released.” But then it was a link to an 80s music video used as a way to prank people in the late 2000s. 

I think a government employee was likely paid for that, although I do not know 100% that the official GOP House Judiciary Twitter account is actually run by a government employee. 

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« Reply #42412 on: February 27, 2025, 05:04:19 PM »
Ozzy and Randy Rhoads were a great combo.  Way better than Sabbath.  

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« Reply #42413 on: February 27, 2025, 05:19:25 PM »
In the realm of political nonsense, there seems to be some kind of show of revealing Epstein files.

In the midst of what seems to be an unserious rollout, the official GOP House Judiciary Twitter account (a thing that shouldn’t exist), put up a post that said “BREAKING: Epstein Files Released.” But then it was a link to an 80s music video used as a way to prank people in the late 2000s.

I think a government employee was likely paid for that, although I do not know 100% that the official GOP House Judiciary Twitter account is actually run by a government employee.
The fun fact is a ton of very influential people from both parties, including both current and past POTUS, and their council and friends are heavily tied to Epstein.  That's part of how he was able to abuse children for as long as he did, was that he both included and paid members of both parties.  Is Clinton on those lists?  Yup.  Is Trump?  Yes.  I'm guessing why it wasn't previously released, and why Trump isn't releasing them now, until they get heavily redacted.  I fully believe neither of them did anything illegal beyond what they've both already been convicted of, but the narrative has become "YOU ARE ON FLIGHT LOGS!!!" as though this dude became a billionaire without having any legitimate connections

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« Reply #42414 on: February 27, 2025, 05:21:50 PM »
Ozzy and Randy Rhoads were a great combo.  Way better than Sabbath. 
Blizzard of Oz is mid, even though it produced Crazy Train.  His next 3 albums were fantastic.  It's also funny how he looks like a nerd cosplaying a goth in his basement on the covers of those albums, while I assume we had a Congressional subcommittee to discuss them

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« Reply #42415 on: February 27, 2025, 05:32:20 PM »
Listening to KISS now, it's bubble gum rock.  Yet every Christian mother's group was convinced that it was the Devil's music.  Knights in Satan's Service, they called them.

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« Reply #42416 on: February 27, 2025, 05:43:19 PM »
Kiss had some heavier stuff. War Machine, for example.

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« Reply #42417 on: February 27, 2025, 05:53:57 PM »
Kiss had some heavier stuff. War Machine, for example.
Yeah that's a song that might have actually earned the gasps from the suburban moms, but that was later, and it wasn't that song's album/album art/tour that initially prompted the harsh reactions. Really, Destroyer was probably the album that put the target on them, because it was their first one to go (double) platinum and put them center stage in pop culture.

Compare that to stuff that came out a few years later from bands like Anthrax and Megadeath, and it almost seems like bebop music.  Yet those bands didn't garner near the mainstream opposition that KISS did.

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« Reply #42418 on: February 27, 2025, 05:57:45 PM »
In the realm of political nonsense, there seems to be some kind of show of revealing Epstein files.

In the midst of what seems to be an unserious rollout, the official GOP House Judiciary Twitter account (a thing that shouldn’t exist), put up a post that said “BREAKING: Epstein Files Released.” But then it was a link to an 80s music video used as a way to prank people in the late 2000s.

I think a government employee was likely paid for that, although I do not know 100% that the official GOP House Judiciary Twitter account is actually run by a government employee.
it was a dog and pony show- 100%.

FBI is still with-holding couple thousand documents that they lied about possessing in the first place.

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« Reply #42419 on: February 27, 2025, 06:12:34 PM »
The fun fact is a ton of very influential people from both parties, including both current and past POTUS, and their council and friends are heavily tied to Epstein.  That's part of how he was able to abuse children for as long as he did, was that he both included and paid members of both parties.  Is Clinton on those lists?  Yup.  Is Trump?  Yes.  I'm guessing why it wasn't previously released, and why Trump isn't releasing them now, until they get heavily redacted.  I fully believe neither of them did anything illegal beyond what they've both already been convicted of, but the narrative has become "YOU ARE ON FLIGHT LOGS!!!" as though this dude became a billionaire without having any legitimate connections.
trying to finagle Trump into the thing seems a bit...odd. Trump has been convicted of a book-keeping crime in Manhattan which anyone who knows even a thing about that case knows it is absolute horse shit which he will win on appeal. Slick Willy has never been convicted of anything as far as I know.

there absolutely needs to be redactions in those files- there are identities of hundreds of victims who need to be concealed. it takes time to go over all that shit and make sure you protect those peoples privacy. other than that- I say go to town on everyone else.

And it isn't just US politicians in those files- it's former heads of state of foreign countries, the brother of the King of England, prominent billionaires like Bill Gates & Les Wexner (who gifted Jeffy a $75 million Manhattan penthouse for no reason apparently...gee how nice... who tf does that btw...here buddy....have my $75 million Manhattan penthouse...it's yours....on the house!), prominent Hollywood actors & moguls, prominent lawyers, scientists, mathematicians, and academics. basically a whose who.

Epstein was a construct- a plant- his wealth was phony- records of him actually trading on Wall Street are slim and none and people on Wall Street who met him have said he didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground when it came down to the technicalities/details- everything was surface level. Dude was a sexual deviant and the creation of intelligence and was used to get compromising material on powerful people. I do not think it's a coincidence that his co-conspirator/sugar mama was the daughter of a super-wealthy media mogul from the UK who just happened to be a Mossad asset and like Epstein died under mysterious circumstances. Epstein was a Mossad asset, and well, Israel owns our government, which means- we're probably never going to get the whole truth.

 

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