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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40936 on: December 26, 2024, 04:16:16 PM »
They didn't lease fancy cars they couldn't afford to buy. They bought that station wagon and took care of it.
You are far too smart to be this stupid.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40937 on: December 26, 2024, 04:19:33 PM »
Stupid is: blaming boomers for “ hoarding “ wealth.    Now that is STUPID.  
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40938 on: December 26, 2024, 04:19:54 PM »
Side note: it was never "easy" for anyone; at least not anyone in the middle class. But the fact that it was hard then doesn't mean that it's not harder now.

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« Reply #40939 on: December 26, 2024, 04:19:57 PM »
Shit, forget renaming Boomers as the Greedy Generation, just label them the Anecdotal Evidence Generation.  It's fucking impossible to have a real conversation with people who deem their personal experience above the data of millions of others.

Worse than 8th graders.  Jesus.
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« Reply #40940 on: December 26, 2024, 04:21:38 PM »
Stupid is: blaming boomers for “ hoarding “ wealth.    Now that is STUPID. 
You're right, rules and laws concerning anything financial just randomly happened to benefit those older with money and against those younger without it.  

Just random chance, really.
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« Reply #40941 on: December 26, 2024, 04:23:52 PM »
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40942 on: December 26, 2024, 04:29:13 PM »
Most early boomers didn't go to college.

I most certainly would not have gone to college had I not wanted to be an engineer.

Great jobs were available with proper training back in the day - just as they are today. 

Today, more and more kids are taking the no college route, in favor of vocational training, in fields where you can make more money than you could with a useless degree. And they don't have the debt to go along with that useless degree.

People are waking up to the college scam.

One of mine got a two-year degree in business and is running a division of 120 employees at an automotive facility.

The other one is a marine and used his GI money to get a two-year training cert to be an electrician.

They are both making bank and both own houses and have nice things.

Disadvantaged? Nope. Just smart. 

Oh, and they make their own coffee and cook their own meals.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40943 on: December 26, 2024, 04:30:56 PM »
Shit, forget renaming Boomers as the Greedy Generation, just label them the Anecdotal Evidence Generation.  It's fucking impossible to have a real conversation with people who deem their personal experience above the data of millions of others.

Worse than 8th graders.  Jesus.
As if you are presenting data😂😂😂

you can’t. 
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« Reply #40944 on: December 26, 2024, 04:31:45 PM »
You're right, rules and laws concerning anything financial just randomly happened to benefit those older with money and against those younger without it. 

Just random chance, really.
Which is different than:   When? Where? What era?
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« Reply #40945 on: December 26, 2024, 04:34:46 PM »
You're right, rules and laws concerning anything financial just randomly happened to benefit those older with money and against those younger without it. 
Like what?
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« Reply #40946 on: December 26, 2024, 04:40:53 PM »
I'm not saying that anyone had it easy (again, not anyone in the middle class). I'm also not saying that there is no opportunity today, but there was back in the old days. There is opportunity today. However, I am saying that it is more expensive to buy a house today than it used to be, which makes one of the biggest single economic engines enjoyed by the boomer middle class much more difficult for the millenials to tap into (while, at the same time, the boomers receive a disproportionate benefit from that scarcity). You don't have to look very hard to find the data that backs that up.

And yes, Badge, college is not a silver bullet, and there are lots of ways to succeed financially without going to college (the trades are a good example). But the data still supports that economic outcomes are better for the college educated than for the non-college educated. That's aggregate, so there will be plenty of examples that don't fit that mold. And there are still plenty of places/careers where a college degree is the price of admission. College is unquestionably more expensive now than it was for GenX and the boomers. Does everyone need to go to college? No. Does everyone need college for economic stability or to create massive wealth? No. Is this a barrier that is harder for millenials to overcome than it was for GenX and the boomers? Yes. All of those things can be (and are) true at the same time.

It also is my experience that there is no quicker way to piss off hard-working millenials than to blame them for not being able to afford a house. And that response is a rational one. The data backs it up.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40947 on: December 26, 2024, 04:49:25 PM »
Whining is usually nonproductive. 

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« Reply #40948 on: December 26, 2024, 05:28:21 PM »


One of mine got a two-year degree in business and is running a division of 120 employees at an automotive facility.

The other one is a marine and used his GI money to get a two-year training cert to be an electrician.

They are both making bank and both own houses and have nice things.

Disadvantaged? Nope. Just smart.

Oh, and they make their own coffee and cook their own meals.






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« Reply #40949 on: December 26, 2024, 05:28:47 PM »
As if you are presenting data😂😂😂

you can’t.
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

 

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