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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #39508 on: November 14, 2024, 12:08:03 PM »
Speaking of pain medications, I avoid them for the most part, as do we all, but they gave me 44 pills of oxycodone after my shoulder surgery.  I took one, stopped me up big time too.  I don't know why they gave me so many.  

I usually take naproxen at baseball each morning after breakfast.  I didn't get anything special for  the eye surgery, nor was it needed.  If you need cataract removal, go do it, it's not bad.  The laser part did cost me $3600 OOP.  The rest was under insurance.

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« Reply #39509 on: November 14, 2024, 12:11:33 PM »
Since we’re talking Cabinet appointments - and yes, Gaetz for Attorney General is batsh*t - how about Kari Lake for Press Secretary??

Do we even need a Press Secretary anymore? The job seems awful the way they get beat up by reporters and served up as sacrificial lambs for PR headaches the White House goes through. They have very little power and rapid-fire news clips are the only results generated from their almost daily briefings.

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« Reply #39510 on: November 14, 2024, 12:14:30 PM »
There is zero need for a press briefing or secretary by anyone other than some cable news networks who like to show clips of some ridiculous thing they probably cut and edited.

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« Reply #39511 on: November 14, 2024, 12:19:08 PM »
Speaking of pain medications, I avoid them for the most part, as do we all, but they gave me 44 pills of oxycodone after my shoulder surgery.  I took one, stopped me up big time too.  I don't know why they gave me so many. 
Same-same after my hernia surgery that I told the surgeon won't need/want.The post surgery the staff nurse never told/advised me to take the laxatives provided. Turns out everyone else I knew about 6 - 3 of them guys I had worked with got that message loud and clear.Which almost led to a real problem 😡 
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« Reply #39512 on: November 14, 2024, 12:22:21 PM »
Kevin McCarthy brushes off Matt Gaetz's nomination to DOJ
Kevin McCarthy brushes off Matt Gaetz's nomination to DOJ

“Look, Gaetz won’t get confirmed,” he continued. “Everybody knows that.”
McCarthy, a loyal Trump ally while serving in the House, was asked why the former president would bother tapping Gaetz if he knew the Florida Republican couldn’t get confirmed.
“You can talk to [the] president, but it’s a good deflection from others, but it also gives …” McCarthy responded, cutting himself off. “I’ll let it stand at that.”
Pressed again for some insight into Trump’s thought process, McCarthy said, “You’d have to ask the president, but Gaetz couldn’t win in a Republican conference, so it doesn’t matter.”
McCarthy has had a long-standing feud with Gaetz, who spearheaded the effort to oust the California Republican from his leadership post last fall. The former Speaker resigned from the House late last year and has maintained that Gaetz only wanted to remove him over an ethics complaint.

Among the main concerns for some senators likely will be the Department of Justice’s years-long investigation
years-long investigation into allegations that Gaetz had sexual intercourse with an underage girl. The investigation was closed last year, and the Florida lawmaker was not criminally charged. He has denied any wrongdoing.

The House Ethics Committee was investigating
was investigating whether he engaged in sexual misconduct and illicit drug use, among other allegations. With Gaetz’s resignation from the lower chamber, the panel no longer has jurisdiction but could still vote to release the report.





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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #39513 on: November 14, 2024, 12:23:09 PM »
Since we’re talking Cabinet appointments - and yes, Gaetz for Attorney General is batsh*t - how about Kari Lake for Press Secretary??

Do we even need a Press Secretary anymore? The job seems awful the way they get beat up by reporters and served up as sacrificial lambs for PR headaches the White House goes through. They have very little power and rapid-fire news clips are the only results generated from their almost daily briefings.
If the system still worked that the government had to answer questions on pressing issues, it’s good to have. If we feel that process doesn’t do that anymore, maybe not.

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« Reply #39514 on: November 14, 2024, 12:25:07 PM »
Florida sues FEMA, alleges political bias in disaster aid

The lawsuit, filed Wednesday in federal court in Fort Pierce, Fla., asks for unspecified damages and a declaration that the two FEMA officials unlawfully conspired to violate Floridians’ civil rights. 
“It’s unacceptable for the federal government to discriminate against Floridians who voted for Trump, and especially egregious in the aftermath of a hurricane,” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said in a statement.
“I’m supportive of this legal action by the Attorney General’s Office, and I have instructed state agencies to likewise take any action necessary to investigate and ensure those who engaged in this behavior are held accountable.” 



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« Reply #39515 on: November 14, 2024, 12:25:57 PM »
“This is a clear violation of FEMA’s core values and principles to help people regardless of their political affiliation. This was reprehensible,” Criswell said in a statement. 

In an interview with journalist Roland S. Martin, Washington said FEMA was scapegoating her. It was common practice for teams to skip certain streets after past “hostile” interactions, she said. 

“They all alleged that these actions were made on my own recognizance and that it was from my own political advances. However, if you look at the record, there is what we call a community trend. And unfortunately, it just so happened that the political hostility that was encountered by my team — and I was on two different teams during this deployment — they just so happened to have the Trump campaign signage,” Washington said. 



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« Reply #39516 on: November 14, 2024, 12:41:52 PM »
Bullshit.
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« Reply #39517 on: November 14, 2024, 12:43:04 PM »
I think there’s a need for a press secretary but I don’t think we need daily press briefings.  Maybe do things by email and remove the showmanship.  Or Truth Social to troll the Left.
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« Reply #39518 on: November 14, 2024, 01:19:33 PM »
President-Elect Donald Trump has stated numerous times that, once he takes office, he plans to shut down the U.S. Department of Education.

The department provides roughly 10% of K-12 funding and enforces federal civil rights in schools. However, it plays a much larger role in financing higher education. Managing approximately $1.5 trillion in student loan debt for over 40 million borrowers, the Education Department represents one of the largest holders of consumer debt in the country.

“I’m going to close the Department of Education and move education back to the states,” Trump pledged at a campaign rally in September. Already, about 90% of school funding comes from state-level education departments and local agencies, and the federal Education Department does not set school curriculum.

Still, Trump has made closing the Education Department a part of his “Agenda 47” plan, stating that “we’re going to do it fast” in the first weeks of assuming office for his second term.

Could Trump shut down the Education Department?
Experts warn that disbanding the department would have unforeseen rippling effects not just on K-12 and higher education but the economy in general — if it were to happen. And that appears to be a pretty big if.

“Eliminating the U.S. Department of Education is extremely unlikely,” says Michael Itzkowitz, president of the HEA Group, an education policy consultancy.

Itzkowitz, a former Obama-appointed Education Department official, tells Money that Trump can’t dissolve the department on his own. Congress would have to pass a law to do so — and that would need support from Democratic Senators to reach the 60-vote threshold to overcome the filibuster. (In the U.S. House of Representatives, it's still not clear whether Republicans have gained control with several races still a toss up, though it looks increasingly likely.)

That said, it has technically been done before. The current iteration of the Education Department was created by former President Jimmy Carter, opening in 1980. But that wasn’t the first Education Department.

More than a century prior, President Andrew Johnson’s administration created an Education Department during the Reconstruction Era in 1867. By 1869, the agency was all but shuttered. Congress shrunk its funding and the department merged with the Department of Interior, becoming the Bureau of Education.

The argument then was much the same as it is today: Opponents of the department say it is wasteful and ineffective, and that states should solely manage their own education programs.

Project 2025 makes that argument almost verbatim.

“Federal education policy should be limited and, ultimately, the federal Department of Education should be eliminated,” wrote Lindsey Burke in Project 2025’s education policy section.

Burke, who is the director of education policy at the Heritage Foundation, goes on to say that states and local governments should have direct control over all federal education funding. And that families should have education savings accounts that they could contribute to and apply toward a host of education options.

Where would $1.5 trillion of federal student debt go?
In the unlikely event that legislation to close the Education Department was successful, a major question that would need to be addressed is: What would happen to all that student loan debt?

Trump has not addressed this question directly, but loans would almost certainly not be forgiven, as Trump has repeatedly criticized the Biden administration's attempts at student loan forgiveness.

Project 2025 offers one possible path forward.

The conservative playbook recommends that the Education Department’s current Office of Federal Student Aid be transformed into an entity with a board of trustees appointed by the president. This group would oversee the federal student loan portfolio on behalf of the U.S. Department of the Treasury.

The Treasury Department, under this proposal, would oversee payment collections, defaults and borrower relations of federal student loans, much like the IRS does with federal income taxes.
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« Reply #39519 on: November 14, 2024, 01:24:10 PM »
If the system still worked that the government had to answer questions on pressing issues, it’s good to have. If we feel that process doesn’t do that anymore, maybe not.
The last Press Secretary that struck me as being good at their job was Ari Fleisher.  Granted that was about the time the media really split into left and right.  Now it seems like just administration friendly journalists lobbing softballs, and adversarial journalists trying to get "gotcha" moments for clout.

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« Reply #39521 on: November 14, 2024, 01:42:10 PM »
Ruthless Technicality = Trump sign
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