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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37170 on: September 11, 2024, 09:56:53 PM »
Seems like maybe we should change the system, huh?  Maybe take the $$$ out of politics.  As long as the RNC and DNC exist as they do, nothing will change. 

I'd prefer each candidate gets the same public funding and let the best ideas rise to the top.  Speech is speech, speech isn't money.  It's a bullshit cop-out and it's created a broken political system.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37171 on: September 11, 2024, 10:02:37 PM »
each candidate gets public funding?
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37172 on: September 12, 2024, 08:39:18 AM »
I watched the whole debate last night. 
I had to turn it off.


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« Reply #37173 on: September 12, 2024, 08:42:59 AM »
I watched it all with my kids.  Civics lesson and all.  First one I've watched all the way through in... decades probably.

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« Reply #37174 on: September 12, 2024, 08:47:53 AM »
The first one was actually good. Moderators were not biased very much at all.

Of course, they were likely complicit in removing the democrat candidate at the time.

So, there's that.

I'd like to see one more, moderated by Bret Baier and Alan Dershowitz. 
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37175 on: September 12, 2024, 08:48:17 AM »
I watched it all with my kids.  Civics lesson and all.  First one I've watched all the way through in... decades probably.
Kids should learn we are screwed sooner rather than later

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37176 on: September 12, 2024, 08:49:49 AM »

I had to turn it off.



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« Reply #37177 on: September 12, 2024, 09:23:17 AM »
Kids should learn we are screwed sooner rather than later
Exactly my point.  We paused many times for teachable moments and to reset reality compared to campaign lies.  They realized neither candidate ever answered any of the questions, and that whatever they did say, was almost entirely bullshit.

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« Reply #37178 on: September 12, 2024, 09:28:48 AM »
Exactly my point.  We paused many times for teachable moments and to reset reality compared to campaign lies.  They realized neither candidate ever answered any of the questions, and that whatever they did say, was almost entirely bullshit.

You should get them the Wall Street Journal.
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« Reply #37179 on: September 12, 2024, 09:40:49 AM »
Exactly my point.  We paused many times for teachable moments and to reset reality compared to campaign lies.  They realized neither candidate ever answered any of the questions, and that whatever they did say, was almost entirely bullshit.

same thing my grandfather taught me in the 70s

although gramps did like Ronnie Reagan 
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« Reply #37180 on: September 12, 2024, 09:45:52 AM »
same thing my grandfather taught me in the 70s

although gramps did like Ronnie Reagan
Everyone liked Ronald Reagan.

Except Mini Soda, of course.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37181 on: September 12, 2024, 11:35:22 AM »
Seems like maybe we should change the system, huh?  Maybe take the $$$ out of politics.  As long as the RNC and DNC exist as they do, nothing will change.

I'd prefer each candidate gets the same public funding and let the best ideas rise to the top.  Speech is speech, speech isn't money.  It's a bullshit cop-out and it's created a broken political system.
need to get money out of politics for sure. also need to completely ban foreign lobbying groups like AIPAC from even being allowed to lobby at all in this country and need far tighter restrictions on US based lobby groups.  

need to break up the uniparty duopoly. there should be more political parties and choices than: two. 

also need max age limits for politicians. term limits would also be a great idea. there are term limits on presidents, why not senators and congressmen? I'd say 4 terms max should be plenty. this thing whole experiment was meant to be a public service- not a fucking 50+ year career to enrich yourself and serve rich donors...looking at you Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, and Nancy Pelosi. should also have to take IQ and competency tests to run for federal office imo. we need more smart people in charge and less of the fucking corrupt idiots that we do have.

need to put rules in place to completely ban insider trading and crack down on regulatory capture by banning politicians and bureaucrats by law from jumping from government to private sector for x amount of years. oh and the out of control rouge "intelligence community" nanny spying state and military industrial complex also need to be brought to heel and largely gutted and completely reformed, rethought, and reconstituted and fall back into complete control of the executive branch and congress needs to actually exercise it's oversight powers to ensure those agencies are not breaking the law and punish them when they do so. people who falsified the intelligence to push the Iraq war, ran torture programs, falsified evidence and launched an obvious bullshit investigation on zero evidence into Donald Trump over Russian collusion- need to get prosecuted and go to jail. people in the intelligence community like James Clapper and John Brennan who lie under oath to Congress need to get prosecuted for perjury and....go to fucking jail. What happens to them? Oh nothing at all. They wind up with huge tv contracts on CNN and MSNBC. Lol real news networks there! Way to lick the boot of power instead of you know, actually doing journalism and speaking truth to power.

oh and former presidents and senators like Obama or Clinton going out and giving speeches to Wall Street banks, private equity firms, and hedge funds for $750k for a one hour speech once they get out of office should be banned. these are merely just after the fact bribes. case in point: one of that dickless traitor Barack Obama's final acts in office was to bail out private equity landlords and then soon as he got out of office he was giving speeches to them for $750,000. #SavingDemocracy.

of course absolutely none of this will ever happen because: we can't have nice things and we are royally fucked.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37182 on: September 12, 2024, 12:07:44 PM »
I mean, we also can’t have those things because they require a bananas level of government regulation and are often a bitch to define/enforce. 

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37183 on: September 12, 2024, 12:08:53 PM »
Unrelated, I’m loving my choice not to watch. Not a good use of time at this juncture. 

 

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