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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36092 on: August 17, 2024, 02:34:45 PM »
Complete hogwash.  😂😂😂

Lot of local elections.    Plenty of varied opinions. Similarities for sure.   
Fair.
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« Reply #36093 on: August 17, 2024, 02:36:54 PM »
I'm watching a rankings video, and I think I see something we can all get onboard for.

Can we all hope/cheer for/pull for Kansas making the playoff?

Fun team.  Haven't mattered in a long time.

No one really hates them, that I know of.

Can we all be Kansas fans this year?
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« Reply #36094 on: August 17, 2024, 02:59:28 PM »
I'm watching a rankings video, and I think I see something we can all get onboard for.

Can we all hope/cheer for/pull for Kansas making the playoff?

Fun team.  Haven't mattered in a long time.

No one really hates them, that I know of.

Can we all be Kansas fans this year?
'Fro is a Kansas fan.

Now I hate Kansas.


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« Reply #36095 on: August 17, 2024, 03:32:33 PM »
I'm watching a rankings video, and I think I see something we can all get onboard for.

Can we all hope/cheer for/pull for Kansas making the playoff?

Fun team.  Haven't mattered in a long time.

No one really hates them, that I know of.

Can we all be Kansas fans this year?
already giving up on Florida's chance to make the playoff? 

Gators have EIGHT games this season vs pre-season AP Top 25 teams, four of which are vs pre-season AP top 10's- #1 Georgia, @#4 Texas, #6 Ole Miss, @ #10 Florida State. 

God damn that's a schedule.

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« Reply #36096 on: August 17, 2024, 04:26:58 PM »
Perfect schedule for a HC on the hot seat.

If Napier is let go, I'd like KU's Leipold or Lame Kitten to replace him.
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« Reply #36097 on: August 17, 2024, 04:33:50 PM »
Perfect schedule for a HC on the hot seat.

If Napier is let go, I'd like KU's Leipold or Lame Kitten to replace him.
it's almost unfair to fire him if he struggles this year bc of that schedule, but his ass is grass if he doesn't turn it around this year.

Leipold might be a bit too old, not sure what his exact age is, but he just looks really old. Kiffin would be a great hire, he's just a really good coach and he knows the SEC inside and out having been in it for a decade now at Bama & Ole Miss.

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« Reply #36098 on: August 17, 2024, 04:52:08 PM »
Kiffin would be a great hire, he's just a really good coach and he knows the SEC inside and out having been in it for a decade now at Bama & Ole Miss.
Joey Freshwater had stocked shelves at the University of Spoilt Children. Perhaps he's ironed out the kinks and is ready for another shot at the big boy table. I thought Dan Mullen(.694win%)would get the progam over the hump. It didn't help that Georgia/Bama were  stellar while he was there. Napier checked most the boxes just maybe Gatorville is a tougher draw than it used to be. Sort of like the Noles who only recently started climbing back and the Canes who may never get back
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« Reply #36099 on: August 17, 2024, 05:08:16 PM »
Joey Freshwater had stocked shelves at the University of Spoilt Children. Perhaps he's ironed out the kinks and is ready for another shot at the big boy table. I thought Dan Mullen(.694win%)would get the progam over the hump. It didn't help that Georgia/Bama were  stellar while he was there. Napier checked most the boxes just maybe Gatorville is a tougher draw than it used to be. Sort of like the Noles who only recently started climbing back and the Canes who may never get back
Joey Freshwater got the HC job at USC when he was like 34 years old. He flat out wasn't ready back then. He's far more experienced and those years spent with Nick Saban actually taught him how to be a successful head coach.

Florida is just fine. It's one of the best jobs out there for a lot of reasons. Get the right coach in place- they are back in no time. And they play in the SEC which matters. It matters because the SEC like the B1G prints money and both have far out-paced the amount of tv dollars the other conferences bring in. Florida has the resources to pay top coaches and staff and build top notch training facilities, locker rooms, etc., etc. that FSU and Miami just don't have being stuck in the ACC.

Noles are on the way back but they have to get out of the ACC asap or they will fall behind. Miami on the other hand is probably dead forever imo, for lot of reasons. They just don't have the fan support, facilities, or money to keep up with the jonses in this new age, and the main billionaire guy funding all their NIL is being investigated by the federal government as his company is about to fail and file for bankruptcy....so there goes that plan to get back to glory.

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« Reply #36100 on: August 17, 2024, 05:26:13 PM »
Bollocks -  Mullen lost the 2020 SEC CCG to Bama by 6 freakin points and the University pulled the rug out from under him the following year. Recruits see that shit and figure the program not the coach just might be the problem. Specially a program with a winning trajectory that has plateaued because of playing turnstile with the HCs.The Noles caught lightning in a bottle with the Jameis Winston and didn't crawl back up until last season. Not nearly as easy as you imply specially now with NIL and the portal. IMHO of course
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« Reply #36101 on: August 17, 2024, 05:50:12 PM »
How he beat them? By understanding that there's no such thing as bad publicity. By changing the game. Donald Trump, being the narcissist that he is, got everybody to talk about him, all the time. It didn't even matter if it was positive. He would constantly say crazy bullshit to get attention.

He sucked all the air out of the room. The other candidates were serious politicians. They were the type that thought "if I just say crazy bullshit all the time, people won't vote for me." Trump realized that if everyone was always talking about the crazy bullshit he said, the other candidates wouldn't get ANY airtime.

That's how he won the nomination. Not by understanding politics, or understanding what voters wanted. But by understanding the power of celebrity, and exploiting it while all the other candidates were playing by normal political rules.

It's one reason why I didn't bring up Trump's statements about 2 weeks ago where he told a Christian group that they just need to vote for him one more time, and after that they won't ever have to vote again. It'll be fixed so good that nobody will have to vote.

There are a LOT of very bad ways to take that statement. Which IMHO is what Trump wanted, but not for the reason one might think. It was said when Harris' poll numbers were rising, when her ascending to be the presumptive nominee was dominating the news cycle, and nobody was talking about him. So he had to say the craziest thing he could think of, to get attention back on him. Because he doesn't want anyone talking about Harris. He wants them talking about him.
Again, how he did it is irrelevant. The fact remains: he did it. He dethroned the Bush and Clinton dynasties in one election. That is flat out incredible. Improbable or impossible isn't even the correct word to describe what he did if you had asked me before the election what were the chances he could actually win.

The main reason why he won had much less to do with his celebrity and much more to do with the anti-establishment draining the swamp ending the pointless illegal foreign wars getting tough on trade message he preached and the abject failures that were the Bush II & Obama administration. We had 16 years of complete failure and incompetence by any objective measure you want to use to judge either of those two clown show Presidents. The American people were itching for an anti-establishment message, they were craving change to the status quo. That's why Bernie was so popular as well, and you couldn't find a complete opposite personality to Trump's- and Bernie much like Trump in 2016 was all grassroots, small donation, self-funded. Bernie probably would've beat Trump and won the 2016 election, but he got cheated out of the Democrat party primary nomination by the DNC which was completely controlled by the Clinton campaign dating back to 2015- before there ever even was a nominee- and the Hillary Clinton controlled DNC rigged the 2016 primary in....shockingly....Hillary Clinton's favor. DNC operative Donna Brazile talks about this openly in her 2017 book. You should read it. Might learn a thing or two.


There is no Republican Party. There is the Trump Party. The Republican Party is "what Trump says, we follow".
Yeah, so I know you're a card carrying Democrat type and the Democrats don't actually believe in democracy, but there is in fact a Republican party, and the way the Republican party nominates it's Presidential candidates is that it holds these things called primary elections- and the winner of said primary elections secures the Republican party nomination for President. And the Republican establishment and it's mega-donors never wanted Trump. They got stuck with him. Just. Follow. The. Money. The Republican establishments mega-donors all tried to back/fund Jeb Bush to the hilt and desperately wanted him to be the guy in the 2016 primaries. Didn't work. They then tried the same thing in 2024 with Ron DeSantis and then Nikki Haley- and they lost. Again. They were hoping for anyone but Trump, but their big money donations to Bush, DeSantis, and Haley didn't work and all- since Trump keeps getting the most votes in said Republican primary elections- he therefore keeps getting nominated to be the Republican party candidate for President. You know, democracy. No clue what you're blathering on about, but that is just the objective reality of the situation.

Oh and can we say there is no Democrat Party as well then going by your logic, and that there is only the Obama Party? Cause it sure as shit seems like the Democrat party has become the "what Obama says, we follow" party. Cause it was Obama that told Joe to sit this one out and picked Clinton over Biden in 2016 because Obama thought she was a better candidate. Let's not forget that it was Obama that got all the other candidates to drop out in the 2020 primaries before super Tuesday and line up and support Biden against Bernie- who was leading at the time- and it was Obama that pressured Joe to pick Harris as his VP even though Joe never wanted her. Oh yeah, and it was Obama with help from Nancy Pelosi that pressured the absolute f*ck out of Biden to step down in 2024. #Democracy.

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« Reply #36102 on: August 17, 2024, 06:04:19 PM »
Bought a car today, in anticipation of my kid getting her license next spring.   Gotta admit buying a car has been much more normal, non miserable experience  as I've aged.

Was pleased and surprised by my trade value and buying process consisted of two text messages yesterday after a test drive last month.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36103 on: August 18, 2024, 01:32:01 AM »
Okay, but did you get some free oil changes or upgraded floormats?!?  Something?!?
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« Reply #36104 on: August 18, 2024, 08:11:22 AM »
free car washes??

how about an extended warranty?
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« Reply #36105 on: August 18, 2024, 08:38:19 AM »
it's almost unfair to fire him if he struggles this year bc of that schedule, but his ass is grass if he doesn't turn it around this year.

Leipold might be a bit too old, not sure what his exact age is, but he just looks really old. Kiffin would be a great hire, he's just a really good coach and he knows the SEC inside and out having been in it for a decade now at Bama & Ole Miss.
He made that bed with the past two years, unfair or not. Losing to Vandy in Year 1 and Arkansas last year to miss a bowl just puts you so behind the 8 ball. And it took an everything went right rally to beat South Carolina.

The two guys fired before him averaged 10 wins in their first two seasons. 

Leipold is 60. Probably too old for that sort of thing, just because of fibs that are sold in recruiting. But honestly, I'm starting to think that's pretty overblown. People hire as if they're getting a guy for a long time, and in reality, if you get 8-9 years of not canning a guy, that's a roaring success. 

 

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