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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Honestbuckeye

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36036 on: August 16, 2024, 03:06:08 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 16, 2024, 02:56:05 PM
Some of that sounds pie in the sky, some of it sounds borderline illegal, and some if it sounds like good old-fashioned pork.

It's always great when Big Government decides to interfere in the Free Market, that's what I always say!
This.  And that is saying it nicely.   Paired with her plan for the government to control pricing on groceries- also known as communism- is laughable 
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« Reply #36037 on: August 16, 2024, 03:10:34 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on August 16, 2024, 12:53:30 PM
it's Donald Trump and he's speaking off the cuff shooting from the hip. You really think he's going to get that specific? Lol. His general point was that Newsom and Ka-hahaha Harris are genuinely terrible and wrecked San Fransisco- and that general point likely landed with his voters and with some of the independents he's trying to sway.
Oh, I know he was just throwing out bullshit off the cuff. And he was TRYING to say that Newsom and Harris made San Francisco a wrecked city, while ACTUALLY praising the city during the exact time that they were in charge of it. 

I just like pointing it out, because it makes him look stupid. We all know he wasn't trying to compliment them, but he inadvertently did so. And that's hilarious to me. 

I know his fans will lap it up, and guys like badge will carry his water and say "well what he was TRYING to say was..." When he wasn't trying to say that at all. He's just a monkey throwing feces and hoping some of it sticks to them. 

What he should have said was this:

"20 years ago, San Francisco was a great city. Great. Then Newsom and Harris took over, and now it's terrible. And now Newsom is trying to make all of California like the mess that he made of San Francisco, and Harris is trying to be President to wreck the nation the way she did there."

But he didn't. Because he's a monkey throwing feces. 
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« Reply #36038 on: August 16, 2024, 03:11:02 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 16, 2024, 03:06:08 PM
This.  And that is saying it nicely.  Paired with her plan for the government to control pricing on groceries- also known as communism- is laughable
Hey she's got plans. For the first time in 3.5 years.
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« Reply #36039 on: August 16, 2024, 03:13:48 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 16, 2024, 03:11:02 PM
Hey she's got plans. For the first time in 3.5 years.
Sure, Biden was just holding her back all this time.
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« Reply #36040 on: August 16, 2024, 03:14:17 PM »
I'm not a Trump fan.
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« Reply #36041 on: August 16, 2024, 03:14:23 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on August 16, 2024, 02:56:54 PM
This is a real  strategic dilemma for Harris.  She doesn't want to be too closely tied to Biden but that is largely unavoidable since she is, ya know, the VP.  At the same time, coming out with policy proposals like this just invites the rather obvious criticism that you just made. 
Yeah, but it's lazy. How much do we credit/blame Pence for during Trump's term? How much do we credit/blame Biden for during Obama's terms?

How much do we credit/blame Cheney for....  Wait, I just screwed my argument there :57:
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« Reply #36042 on: August 16, 2024, 03:15:44 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 16, 2024, 02:56:05 PM
Some of that sounds pie in the sky, some of it sounds borderline illegal, and some if it sounds like good old-fashioned pork.

It's always great when Big Government decides to interfere in the Free Market, that's what I always say!
It's not going anywhere anyway.
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« Reply #36043 on: August 16, 2024, 03:17:51 PM »
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« Reply #36044 on: August 16, 2024, 03:18:45 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on August 16, 2024, 03:10:34 PM
Oh, I know he was just throwing out bullshit off the cuff. And he was TRYING to say that Newsom and Harris made San Francisco a wrecked city, while ACTUALLY praising the city during the exact time that they were in charge of it.

I just like pointing it out, because it makes him look stupid. We all know he wasn't trying to compliment them, but he inadvertently did so. And that's hilarious to me.

I know his fans will lap it up, and guys like badge will carry his water and say "well what he was TRYING to say was..." When he wasn't trying to say that at all. He's just a monkey throwing feces and hoping some of it sticks to them.

What he should have said was this:

"20 years ago, San Francisco was a great city. Great. Then Newsom and Harris took over, and now it's terrible. And now Newsom is trying to make all of California like the mess that he made of San Francisco, and Harris is trying to be President to wreck the nation the way she did there."

But he didn't. Because he's a monkey throwing feces.
Can’t argue with you there.  But he is running against a huge pile of feces. 


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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #36045 on: August 16, 2024, 04:08:17 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 16, 2024, 03:18:45 PM
Can’t argue with you there.  But he is running against a huge pile of feces. 



I’m just imagining two shit monsters duking it out
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« Reply #36046 on: August 16, 2024, 04:14:50 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on August 16, 2024, 04:08:17 PM
I’m just imagining two shit monsters duking it out
It's sad.

This is what we can come up with out of 350,000,000 people?

WT actual F.
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« Reply #36047 on: August 16, 2024, 04:29:15 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 16, 2024, 02:25:34 PM
I go back and forth on it. He only gets two terms so he's giving up 2 years to beef up his national profile more.

I guess it's all about his ambitions at this point. He could finish his term and then campaign for two years, or still serve in Trump's Cabinet, which was a revolving door and probably would be again.
serving in a Presidential cabinet doesn't make one any more likely to become President in the future. in modern history can't recall one person elected President who served a cabinet position of another President. you'll find a whole bunch of Senators, VP's, governors, and then....Trump. 

DeSantis running for Senator in Florida after his term as governor is over would probably be his best bet if he's trying to become President one day. Having said that, I don't think there's anything he can do. He just doesn't have that it factor. He's really just not charismatic or compelling at all. People like Obama, Clinton, Trump, hell even W (his first run before we all knew he was a blood thirsty psychopath).....say what you will about any of them or their politics- they were charismatic, funny, compelling, interesting. DeSantis is none of the above.
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« Reply #36048 on: August 16, 2024, 04:38:32 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on August 16, 2024, 03:14:23 PM
Yeah, but it's lazy. How much do we credit/blame Pence for during Trump's term? How much do we credit/blame Biden for during Obama's terms?

How much do we credit/blame Cheney for....  Wait, I just screwed my argument there :57:
that is a fair point. however I think the fact that Joe's brain melted into jell-o and that he clearly was not in control of his own faculties let alone his own administration- many voters might assume that she was a) either really running things behind the scenes for him or b) providing cover and enabling the sh*t show of a farce to continue. either scenario......she looks pretty bad. convince the voting populace of either scenario and that seems like a winning strategy to me.

Or just stick to what we do know she was in charge of- and that is the one thing Ka-Hahaha was empowered and tasked by Biden to do- immigration- and it was nothing but an unmitigated disaster. I feel like if they just stay on message and hit her with that- they'll win. Stop talking about her race and AI photoshops of crowd support. People really don't care about that stuff.
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« Reply #36049 on: August 16, 2024, 04:44:43 PM »
Trump just can't help himself. 

People who think he's stupid are seriously underrating him, but he ends up saying stupid things out of sheer narcissism.  He just loves to hear himself speak, and he's unable to filter himself because he truly believes that every single thing that comes out of his mouth is clever or witty.
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