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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33026 on: June 14, 2024, 12:54:55 PM »
It seems that @Cincydawg , @847badgerfan , and @utee94 already know this but for those who don't:

Firing with a bump stock is wildly inaccurate. With an actual machine gun accuracy diminishes as compared to single shots but you CAN aim a machine gun even while firing fully-automatic. A bump stock uses the recoil motion to mimic full-auto so the actual gun is inherently bouncing all over the place and aim is a relative concept at best.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33027 on: June 14, 2024, 01:06:06 PM »
The military rifles today usually don't have "full auto" beyond three shots, because anything after that becomes less accurate (aside from real machine guns).  We had one tragic shooting with bump stocks, and I'm fine if they are prohibited, but it's not as if this was turning into a common situation.  Maybe it would have?

A lot of mass shootings we read about take place at close range as opposed to some guy with a rifle situated above everyone, they are in a school or nightclub etc. where a pistol and/or shotgun would be deadly as well and probably preferable to any rifle with any length.

I am bit curious why SCOTUS has never really ruled on the near ban on automatic weapons.  

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« Reply #33028 on: June 14, 2024, 01:07:57 PM »
Exactly correct.

They are difficult to control and only a true expert can do it. There's not that many. 

Even my son says they are difficult to control, and he can hit targets a mile+ away with his sniper rifle. He has a TON of experience with guns of all types. Been shooting since he was a little boy, and then got training in the Marines.
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« Reply #33029 on: June 14, 2024, 01:08:09 PM »
That's why I'm glad we have this guy (in our county), and many others like him, in Florida. They don't mess around.

After Ian, he went on and said, "you loot, we shoot" and he was not kidding.


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Here in Orange County, they definitely sent a message:




Our morning drive-time radio show (The Woody Show if it's syndicated near you; it's hilarious) based in LA was talking about a story where a guy was suing the highway patrol because they basically pulled him out of his loaner car that the dealership mistakenly reported as stolen, in Orange County. 

As they started talking about it, one interjected "wait, a crime was reported to the police and they actually DID something about it??", and another replied "well, yeah, it was in Orange County."

I heard about this new ballot initiative on their show this morning and let's just say they're all in favor...

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« Reply #33030 on: June 14, 2024, 01:09:48 PM »
Orange County secedes from California!
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« Reply #33031 on: June 14, 2024, 01:47:22 PM »
Earlier people were talking about the sort of blowback that comes from lenient crime laws/enforcement, then increasing crime, leading to support for stricter crime laws/enforcement.

Well, my highly liberal state of CA looks to be embracing that trend: https://ktla.com/news/local-news/initiative-to-change-californias-controversial-prop-47-eligible-for-november-ballot/

When even CA is sick of crime and starts to do something about it, it shows you just how far it slid...


This was the one where the $950 number got people all hot and bothered, right?

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« Reply #33032 on: June 14, 2024, 01:55:51 PM »
Yes.
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« Reply #33033 on: June 14, 2024, 01:57:47 PM »
Yes.
Ahh. The fixation on that number, really undercuts at lot of the criticism. 

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« Reply #33034 on: June 14, 2024, 02:04:24 PM »
What should the number be, in your opinion?

Stealing is stealing. I don't care if it's a pack of gum. It's stealing.

That's how I was raised and how I raised my kids.

The aforementioned marine son of mine got caught trying to steal a knife from Bass Pro when he was around 10. The police called said they had him in the mall jail and wanted me to come get him. Mom was out of town on business.

I asked the cop if he could let him sit there for the rest of the day, and the cop laughed and said yes. He said, "you are teaching him a lesson" and I said "yes".

Never happened again.
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« Reply #33035 on: June 14, 2024, 03:20:02 PM »
When does this come to an end? Ever?

https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/wsj-reporter-deemed-wrongfully-detained-is-indicted-under-russian-espionage-laws-a1d594a6?st=e5m0pu5sxbmioom&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/wsj-reporter-deemed-wrongfully-detained-is-indicted-under-russian-espionage-laws-a1d594a6?st=e5m0pu5sxbmioom&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

How come we can get a druggie WNBA player out, but we can't get this guy out?
Breaking news: Putin is a bad guy and a thug dictator. Actually, this isn't breaking news it's been known for pretty much the entire 25 years he's been in power. 

US state department has zero leg to stand on to blather mindlessly on and on about the detainment/persecution of journalists when it has actively been trying to destroy Julian Assange for like a decade plus. Hypocrites, much? Do as I say, not as I do.

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« Reply #33036 on: June 14, 2024, 03:23:20 PM »
Live updates: G7 summit in Italy, Biden and Zelensky to hold news conference | CNN

The US and Ukraine are expected to sign a bilateral security pact on the sidelines of the G7 in Italy on Thursday, multiple people familiar with the matter told CNN, in a deal that lays out a path for the US’ long-term security relationship with Kyiv but that could also be undone by future US administrations.
The agreement follows months of negotiations between the US and Ukraine and is expected to commit the US for 10 years to continued training of Ukraine’s armed forces, more cooperation in the production of weapons and military equipment, the continued provision of military assistance and greater intelligence sharing.
But the pledge is expected to be an “executive agreement,” the sources said, making it less formal than a treaty and not necessarily binding for any future presidents.
Former President Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, has not explicitly said whether he would continue support for Ukraine if he wins in November, saying only that he would negotiate a quick end to the Russia-Ukraine war without explaining how. He has also pushed European countries to contribute more to their own defense and said he’d “encourage” Russia “to do whatever the hell they want” if Europe didn’t increase its defense funding.
The US-Ukraine agreement does not make a specific monetary pledge to support Ukraine’s defense, two of the sources familiar with the agreement said. An annex in the agreement will lay out how the Biden administration plans to work with Congress on the implementation of the security commitments, one of the sources said, specifically the long-term funding that will be needed to support Ukraine’s defense.
hopefully this is one of the first things Trump undoes when he gets into power. F*ck Zelensky. F*ck Ukraine. Why does the US care so much for a shithole Eastern European 3rd world country that is one of the most corrupt countries on planet earth?

Oh, maybe it's the $10-12 trillion worth of natural resources that Miss Lindsey Graham opened her mouth up about and said the quiet part out loud after she took a break from looking for male hookers on Grindr?


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« Reply #33037 on: June 14, 2024, 03:29:59 PM »
Trump floats eliminating U.S. income tax and replacing it with tariffs on imports (cnbc.com)
crazy nonsense.

what Trump should implement however instead of the tax breaks he implemented on this type of sh*t-  is a consumption tax for high end luxury goods and a tax on high end imported luxury goods on HNWI ($30m's+) - you know the private jets, yachts, $40,000 birkin bags, $100m Manhattan penthouses, $500 million Palm Beach compounds.

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« Reply #33038 on: June 14, 2024, 03:53:36 PM »
crazy nonsense.

what Trump should implement however instead of the tax breaks he implemented on this type of sh*t-  is a consumption tax for high end luxury goods and a tax on high end imported luxury goods on HNWI ($30m's+) - you know the private jets, yachts, $40,000 birkin bags, $100m Manhattan penthouses, $500 million Palm Beach compounds.
I like this.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #33039 on: June 14, 2024, 04:07:54 PM »
First, that probably won't raise much money.

Second, that would be taxing himself and people like himself. That's not his style. 

 

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