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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #17640 on: June 25, 2022, 09:22:37 AM »
they tried to build a new refinery about 50 miles from me in the SE tip of South Dakota about 10 years ago

the locals put up a good fight, didn't want the dirty stinky thing near them with the workforce it would attract and other issues

didn't happen, I assumed it got built somewhere else, but maybe they just gave up
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #17641 on: June 25, 2022, 09:26:41 AM »
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

s of January 1, 2021, there were 129 operable petroleum refineries in the United States.
The newest refinery in the United States is the Targa Resources Corporation's 35,000 barrels per calendar day (b/cd) condensate splitter in Channelview, Texas, which began operating in 2019. Condensate splitters are distillation units that process condensate, which is lighter than crude oil. Splitter capacity is included as atmospheric distillation units in U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) data.

However, the newest refinery with significant downstream unit capacity is Marathon's facility in Garyville, Louisiana. That facility came online in 1977 with an initial atmospheric distillation unit capacity of 200,000 b/cd, and as of January 1, 2021, it had a capacity of 578,000 b/cd.
Capacity has also been added to existing refineries through upgrades or new construction. Some recent examples of large increases include
  • In 2012, Motiva upgraded its refinery in Port Arthur, Texas, making it the largest U.S. refinery, with a capacity of 607,000 b/cd as of January 1, 2021.
  • In 2015, Valero expanded its Corpus Christi, Texas refinery after previous expansions, bringing its capacity as of January 1, 2021, to 290,000 b/cd.

So, some smaller units have been built more recently than the large one in 1977.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #17642 on: June 25, 2022, 10:00:18 AM »
I think the future market for refined petroleum will be increasingly limited, over time, it's tough to project when that really starts to reduce usage.  Economic growth will counter that for a while of course.  By 2050, it's reasonable to think over half of cars and LTs will be powered by something other than gasoline.  So, perhaps the market will be something close to half what it is now, maybe.  Then we have usage by other means of transportation that may not evolve as quickly.  And then there is the use in making chemicals and plastic etc. (which is pretty substantial).  If you start a new refinery now, it is going to take ~3 years to be operational.  I think we'll see more expansions rather than green field operations.  Oil companies no doubt have looked hard at all this and have better projections than I do.

At some point, the market for oil is going to be much lower than it is today.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #17643 on: June 25, 2022, 12:30:56 PM »
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« Reply #17644 on: June 25, 2022, 02:31:48 PM »
Quote from: GopherRock on June 24, 2022, 01:03:03 PM
Please elaborate.
One judge said it.

It's not going to happen.
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« Reply #17645 on: June 25, 2022, 02:32:10 PM »
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« Reply #17646 on: June 25, 2022, 02:36:28 PM »
Anyone here ever hear of something called adoption? Maybe read up on it. It's a magical thing.

Definitely was to me, since I'm one of them.
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« Reply #17647 on: June 25, 2022, 02:51:53 PM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on June 24, 2022, 05:38:02 PM
I love it.  9 folks in robes (5 in truth) should not govern a nation when it comes to unemumerated rights.  Roe was an abomination of a ruling and Casey was arguably no bettrr. Self governance, whatever the outcome here is what we deserve.

This issue has infected our National political scene unnecessarily for nearly half a century.  It solved nothing. 
Exactly. 


Some people need to study up on some of the the abortion laws in Utopia (Europe) too.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #17648 on: June 25, 2022, 02:57:36 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 25, 2022, 02:36:28 PM
Anyone here ever hear of something called adoption? Maybe read up on it. It's a magical thing.

Definitely was to me, since I'm one of them.
In the case of adoptions, do the mothers get any reimbursement for their medical bills?  I've heard a pregnancy can cost as much as $10,000.  I believe an abortion costs significantly less than that.  I don't have any personal experience with either, so would like to learn more.
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« Reply #17649 on: June 25, 2022, 03:04:39 PM »
Quote from: Abba on June 25, 2022, 02:57:36 PM
In the case of adoptions, do the mothers get any reimbursement for their medical bills?  I've heard a pregnancy can cost as much as $10,000.  I believe an abortion costs significantly less than that.  I don't have any personal experience with either, so would like to learn more.
My parents paid for the birth mother's care, and paid the lawyer bills. Very expensive, even in 1967. I've heard upwards of $100K today.

And yet people are still lined up trying to adopt - especially the LG crowd (which I support).

I'd be very much for government assistance on this issue, by the way, if the adoptive family cannot afford the expenses completely, or at all. The caveat is that the adoptive family must display the ability to properly care for a baby. Have a home/apartment, jobs, transportation, and no criminal records.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #17650 on: June 25, 2022, 05:41:16 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 25, 2022, 02:36:28 PM
Anyone here ever hear of something called adoption? Maybe read up on it. It's a magical thing.

Definitely was to me, since I'm one of them.
So your answer is an idea that costs $100,000?  
There are no words.
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« Reply #17651 on: June 25, 2022, 05:44:18 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 25, 2022, 03:04:39 PM
My parents paid for the birth mother's care, and paid the lawyer bills. Very expensive, even in 1967. I've heard upwards of $100K today.

And yet people are still lined up trying to adopt - especially the LG crowd (which I support).

I'd be very much for government assistance on this issue, by the way, if the adoptive family cannot afford the expenses completely, or at all. The caveat is that the adoptive family must display the ability to properly care for a baby. Have a home/apartment, jobs, transportation, and no criminal records.
Let's try out an SAT problem:  greater than, less than, or equal to
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number of babies born from unwanted pregnancies
      >       =      <
number of couples wanting to adopt and can do so
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Please circle your answer.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #17652 on: June 25, 2022, 06:32:02 PM »
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #17653 on: June 25, 2022, 10:35:37 PM »
Fro called the birthing people "women."

He's gonna get rounded up and reeducated, if he keeps that up. 
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