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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #15344 on: April 05, 2022, 07:58:49 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on April 05, 2022, 06:11:32 PM
So one guy was improving the situation and the other guy is making the situation much worse and you understand that but yet you’re equally disappointing with both?
nope, didn't say that
I'd much rather have more secure borders, south, north, rafts from Cuba, and others coming on airliners

what I was saying is, exaggerating for dramatics and saying one side had a secure border and the other side is simply welcoming illegals across the border with open arms is wrong
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« Reply #15345 on: April 05, 2022, 08:01:40 PM »
the "left" truly does have lizard brain. astonishing how stupid they make themselves look on twitter.

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https://twitter.com/DefiantLs/status/1511334939823902720?s=20&t=opH6zEKwK6gpbtJ7aq5QxA
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« Reply #15346 on: April 05, 2022, 08:04:58 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 05, 2022, 07:53:23 PM
How's that wall coming?
not well, but I think that is a mistake
I'd rather have a more effective border security than what we have w/o a wall
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« Reply #15347 on: April 05, 2022, 08:05:30 PM »
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« Reply #15348 on: April 05, 2022, 08:06:09 PM »
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« Reply #15349 on: April 05, 2022, 08:10:20 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 05, 2022, 07:42:59 PM
Trump is the best chance the Republicans have in 2024, according to all the early polling right now. 
he is also the best chance of causing a huge uprising from the left and middle because of who he is and the way he stirs emotions.

Huge easy target for his opponents
He obviously will be attacked, possibly by many in the Republican party this time

Biden is weak, the Republican party isn't desperate.  A decent regular Republican candidate can take down Biden
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« Reply #15350 on: April 05, 2022, 08:11:19 PM »
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« Reply #15351 on: April 05, 2022, 08:11:56 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 05, 2022, 08:10:20 PM
 A decent regular Republican candidate can take down Biden
What the hell is that??
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« Reply #15352 on: April 05, 2022, 08:13:25 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 05, 2022, 08:04:58 PM
not well, but I think that is a mistake
I'd rather have a more effective border security than what we have w/o a wall
The border and its security is a distraction from the real problem.  The legal immigration system is broken.  But working towards fixing that isn't a 'gotcha' sound bite for whichever side you're on.

It's sad.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #15353 on: April 05, 2022, 08:13:30 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 05, 2022, 07:45:06 PM
examples, please? there's a massive difference between censorship and suing someone for defamation or libel. and also a massive difference between firing someone or disciplining someone who works for you who is out of pocket with their mouth or going after someone who opens their mouth after they've signed an NDA.
Banned someone from buying a Tesla after something mean was said: https://fortune.com/2016/02/03/stewart-alsop-tesla/

Threatens to sue someone who said Tesla's stock might not be a good buy: https://www.fastcompany.com/90208132/elon-musk-allegedly-silenced-an-online-critic-with-peter-thiels-playbook

(There was the employee thing, where he not only canned a guy for speaking publicly, as one with the options for free speech might, but also basically deactivated features on his Tesla. Because remember, free speech is vital, but so it the ability of the wealthy to punish you for it, at least when they have their way)
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« Reply #15354 on: April 05, 2022, 08:14:44 PM »
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« Reply #15355 on: April 05, 2022, 08:17:51 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on April 05, 2022, 08:13:30 PM
Banned someone from buying a Tesla after something mean was said: https://fortune.com/2016/02/03/stewart-alsop-tesla/

Threatens to sue someone who said Tesla's stock might not be a good buy: https://www.fastcompany.com/90208132/elon-musk-allegedly-silenced-an-online-critic-with-peter-thiels-playbook

(There was the employee thing, where he not only canned a guy for speaking publicly, as one with the options for free speech might, but also basically deactivated features on his Tesla. Because remember, free speech is vital, but so it the ability of the wealthy to punish you for it, at least when they have their way)
yeah, none of that is not restricting free speech. nice try though. 

I bet that moron who was shorting Tesla and talking shit about them is broke now. Tesla has went to the f***king moon since 2018. Imagine covering those shorts. :043:
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« Reply #15356 on: April 05, 2022, 08:19:02 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 05, 2022, 08:13:25 PM
The border and its security is a distraction from the real problem.  The legal immigration system is broken.  But working towards fixing that isn't a 'gotcha' sound bite for whichever side you're on.

It's sad.
this 100%.

I think something like 2/3rd of people who are here illegally come on airplanes with work or visitor visas and then just over stay their visas. there's no wall for that.
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« Reply #15357 on: April 05, 2022, 08:19:23 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 05, 2022, 08:13:25 PM
The border and its security is a distraction from the real problem.  The legal immigration system is broken.  But working towards fixing that isn't a 'gotcha' sound bite for whichever side you're on.

It's sad.
how many legal immigrants should be ushered in per month?
What are the conditions?  What conditions shouldn't be allowed?

if the legal process was "fixed" In your opinion, you think illegals would stop crossing the border illegally?

hoards of illegals is a problem

how much of a problem is not enough folks getting in legally?  is this a real problem?  Do we really need a much larger number of legal immigrants?  30,000/month?  130,000/month  1 million per month?
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