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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47110 on: July 22, 2025, 09:24:07 AM »
The MSM and lunatic left's machinations over the hypothetical Epstein list reminds me of what transpired while awaiting the Mueller report.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47111 on: July 22, 2025, 09:24:39 AM »
That's a dodge.

Of undermining the president with some BS was treason, the current president would be in prison for treason, unless the old admin was quite beneficent, which you do not believe it is.

That being treason is some banana republic nonsense.
I disagree.

It's a point that sheds light on the previous administration's outright disdain for laws.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47112 on: July 22, 2025, 09:25:36 AM »
The MSM and lunatic left's machinations over the hypothetical Epstein list reminds me of what transpired while awaiting the Mueller report.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47113 on: July 22, 2025, 09:28:07 AM »
I disagree.

It's a point that sheds light on the previous administration's outright disdain for laws.
You’ve already explained that you feel undermining the president with some BS is grounds for treason, legally.

Since they were so amoral and were willing to break the law, why wouldn’t they just use it to put him in prison? It would’ve been super easy.

Unless this is all rhetoric, wishcasting and complaining.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47114 on: July 22, 2025, 09:33:18 AM »
Setting aside the political machinations and such, the Epstein thing mostly strikes me as a dog that caught the car situation. It’s a great thing to make a ruckus about as long as you don’t have many of the levers of power.

And then you get them, and either there’s nothing there or there’s some things you can’t release, and you either have to take the PR hit or find a way to wriggle out. 

And the efforts to do either of those smoothly have been … poor. 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47115 on: July 22, 2025, 09:34:19 AM »
Sure, no one knew the Obama stuff would be dropping requiring preemptive attempts to distract lol.  The WSJ article came out of nowhere lol

Notice how you won’t talk about the Obama stuff?  Looks like the distraction is working…
It’s because I’m good at not falling for obvious distractions. 


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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47116 on: July 22, 2025, 09:36:12 AM »
That was supposed to be the purpose of the Mueller investigation. 
The investigation that happened entirely during the Trump administration was supposed to help the Biden administration put him in prison? 

Again, suuurrrreeeee partner. 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47117 on: July 22, 2025, 09:37:20 AM »
I'm not clear what sort of information would be on any "list".  As noted, we know who flew on Epstein's jet at times, I'd guess much of that was innocuous, they were friends, it doesn't mean they went to his island where "stuff" happened.  That would have required a further helo ride.  Let's imagine some went to the island thinking it would be a nice vacation, but they didn't engage in illegal stuff, and didn't really notice anything amiss.  And some may have knowingly engaged, but they wouldn't be on any different kind of list, if one existed.  

I think the nation has other priorities, but this one is too juicy to ignore now, and many think it's a hammer against DJT (who handled it poorly I think).

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47118 on: July 22, 2025, 09:49:26 AM »
To me, it's politics, bordering perhaps on infracting some law, maybe, but I doubt anyone of note is indicted and convicted.

Trump went on and on about Obama not being born in the US.  Was that illegal?  Of course not.

The Carter Page FISA warrant strikes me as being obtained illegally and no one was charged for that (yet).


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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47119 on: July 22, 2025, 09:53:57 AM »
Says the person who will only talk about the distraction :72:
Meh, I got time to play along.

If you must, educate me, in as concise a way as we can, the thing that was done that was wrong by the previous admin. The act so offensive, it is treasonous. You seem to feel you have a good handle on it.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47120 on: July 22, 2025, 09:58:05 AM »
What was the purpose for Mueller being appointed again?
Off the top of my head, to look into the allegations of election meddling. 

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47122 on: July 22, 2025, 10:10:46 AM »
It was to investigate whether Trump was compromised by Russia and was based on the false intelligence Obama approved. 

It was staffed by people who started the Crossfire Hurricane hoax and they all wiped their phones and laptops before returning them to the DOJ - totally normal right?

And some of the staff ended up on Jack Smith’s team but I’m sure that was just a coincidence…
So it’s garbled half bits of information that lead to a terrifically incompetent conspiracy? OK then.  

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #47123 on: July 22, 2025, 10:14:47 AM »
So it’s garbled half bits of information that lead to a terrifically incompetent conspiracy? OK then. 
It was also an effort to distract a sitting President and the rest of the country for over half of his first term.

And it worked.
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