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Basically feels like similar bullshit. The kind your supporters rally behind, your enemies decry . . .

It’s also a perverse and gross use of the legal system.

Yeah, all the due process people had no problem with due process violations to “get Trump”. 

Eh, the "they did it first" finger-pointing can go back decades and probably generations.  It doesn't change the facts now.

Bullshit identity politics have absolutely destroyed any chance at civil discourse and unless/until people cut that out and reengage their brains, nothing is going to change or get better.

The thing that often gets me is the “for thee not for me” energy that often pervades this.

I don’t know that I’m 100 percent on this, but I usually try to say, if this was flipped in terms of parties, how would I feel? And then I try to use that to drill down on the actual act and my feelings on it. (That also requires a good bit of skepticism and distrust of folks I might be aligned with, something that often seems cast aside quickly in such discussions).

I suppose part of politics if getting joy from being mad and consuming nonsense. And a lot of that just leads to it boiling down to “go team” sort of fluff.

The thing that often gets me is the “for thee not for me” energy that often pervades this.

I don’t know that I’m 100 percent on this, but I usually try to say, if this was flipped in terms of parties, how would I feel? And then I try to use that to drill down on the actual act and my feelings on it. (That also requires a good bit of skepticism and distrust of folks I might be aligned with, something that often seems cast aside quickly in such discussions).

I suppose part of politics if getting joy from being mad and consuming nonsense. And a lot of that just leads to it boiling down to “go team” sort of fluff.