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I'm all for improving food quality in schools, I just am not sure how best to achieve it.  Blaming some corporation is facile.  The school board, or someone, chooses who gets the contract.  I was friends with the head of our school board for a while, he told me they had to spend a large sum on filling out forms to get monies from the Doed and he was uncertain whether it paid off in the end, it was about 7% of funding.

This is why they  had so many "administrators", one reason anyway.  This was a "good school system", well funded, they spent over $15 K per student, and it was majority black.  

I understand why some folks jump  to blaming X or Y for some problem, it's a political driven conclusion, the same is true for other issues like climate change, as I have noted.  Reading up on such an issue is "difficult".  Forming your own opinions is far harder than just parroting whatever your "leader" tells you is true.

So, your major complaint about the educational system in the United States, is the quality of the food? You see no other problems?

How in the holy hell did you.........nevermind, having an actual conversation here is an utter waste of time.....sigh.....here, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and guess that you're messing with me and that your post wasn't genuine.  Because I should respect people (including you) enough to avoid coming to the conclusion that you're genuinely asking that I see no other problems.  


I cannot believe I have to type that out.  Some of you are excruciating to interact with.  

I asked you some simple questions about who this evil corporation is that provides your lunches and you went off one some rant about how I was defending corporations.  The repeated shallowness of your "analyses" is rather striking, to me, you refuse to scratch the surface, it's always the fault of someone else.

You're right, it's my fault.

It is fascinating to me to see someone so resistant to engaging in an actual discussion of a topic without distortion and distractions and hyperbole.

I generally enjoy discussing issues and problems and wondering what causes the problem.  That's how I learn things from others.

It always seems to come down to personal responsibility.   Those kids growing up in homes where the parents consider themselves victims don't have much of a chance.  Those kids in homes where the kids are taught to take what you've got and run? They do.  

That same ailment covers a lot of subjects outside of education, too.  

Don't misconstrue - victims are real.  It's what victims do next that defines their character.  

I'm pretty sure we beat the issue of school lunches to death a few months ago

Beating a dead horse is also how the school sloppy joes are made

If this selfish rich prick a person with a name, or a corporation with a name?  Is he really interested personally in saving 3 cents per lunch?

Would the problem be solved, partially at least, but contracting with some other outfit?

Are there any nonprofits engaged in this business?  I don't know if saving 3 cents per meal helps much, but it's a start.  Do you think the food could be improved if that 3 cents per meal disappeared?  I presume a lunch costs, say, $2 or so, right?  If that 3 cents went to better quality food, so you think it would matter much?

According to the Supreme Court when it comes to campaign donations, corporations are people, so differentiating them is unnecessary, right?  Anyway, getting past that sour grape, here's a thing:

Since the 1970s, Big Food has colonized the school cafeteria. From signing lucrative food service contracts to promoting their corporate brands and dishing out chicken nuggets and other mass-produced, heat-and-serve items, the food industry has done quite well for itself by selling goods and services to schools across the United States, including the 95% of public schools that participate in the government-subsidized National School Lunch Program (NSLP).  

In recent years, Big Food companies — and their industry associations — have spent millions of dollars lobbying the federal government to weaken or change its nutritional standards, and these efforts have paid off handsomely. It happened in 2014, when the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) caved to industry pressure and made it easier for schools to serve French fries and pizza. It happened in 2018, when the USDA loosened restrictions on the amount of sodium, flavored milk, and refined grains that could be served in school meals. And it is happening again with the Trump administration’s latest proposal to make the rules more “flexible” (as Thompson, 2020, recently described in these pages).