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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44856 on: May 20, 2025, 05:51:07 PM »
it doesn't hurt much ;)
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44857 on: May 21, 2025, 06:36:09 AM »
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44858 on: May 21, 2025, 09:15:27 AM »

One thing I’ve learned in our times is if you like turnjnf politics into a dominant personality trait, interest in facts falls because they get in the way of strong beliefs.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44859 on: May 21, 2025, 09:19:21 AM »
My very broad view of US politics is that 40% will always vote Dem, and 40% will always vote Rep.  What determines outcomes is that other 20% and turnout.  So, we end up with negative TV ads costing billions and two candidates for President selected by the most ardent from each party who then tries to pretend they are moderate.

Usually.

In my opinion, we're just getting very poor quality candidates from each side.  I quit.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44860 on: May 21, 2025, 09:24:02 AM »
One thing I’ve learned in our times is if you like turnjnf politics into a dominant personality trait, interest in facts falls because they get in the way of strong beliefs.
Just having a little fun at not my expense. Don't read too much into it.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44861 on: May 21, 2025, 09:25:14 AM »

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44862 on: May 21, 2025, 09:25:50 AM »
My very broad view of US politics is that 40% will always vote Dem, and 40% will always vote Rep.  What determines outcomes is that other 20% and turnout.  So, we end up with negative TV ads costing billions and two candidates for President selected by the most ardent from each party who then tries to pretend they are moderate.

Usually.

In my opinion, we're just getting very poor quality candidates from each side.  I quit.
I've voted Rep, Dem, Lib, and Ind. I'm a policy guy. Of late that has me leaning Conservative. Definitely not woke.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44863 on: May 21, 2025, 10:13:21 AM »
I don't think either party is giving us candidates worthy of my vote, so I quit.  Neither is going to fix much of anything.

I think we could do better picking folks by lottery.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44864 on: May 21, 2025, 10:17:14 AM »
Voting local is most important.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44865 on: May 21, 2025, 10:19:28 AM »
My problem with local candidates is I have no way to really know much about any of them, seriously.  Some judge is up for election?  OK, I could look at the newspaper for their recco, but I don't like the local paper at all.  The city AG?  Same thing.  Council member?  Same thing.

The number of elected positions is WAY too many in my view.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44866 on: May 21, 2025, 10:20:00 AM »
the government decided I wasn't worthy to cast a vote.  They made me quit.  I'm not concerned.  Most candidates aren't worthy, especially for the highest office.  Frees me up to fully explore ignorance - ignorance in politics is bliss.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44867 on: May 21, 2025, 01:02:08 PM »
Debated posting this on the Coronavirus thread since this has become the latest political football with respect to vaccination strategy, but figured the politics thread is more appropriate due to where this conversation is likely to go...



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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44868 on: May 21, 2025, 01:24:45 PM »
Debated posting this on the Coronavirus thread since this has become the latest political football with respect to vaccination strategy, but figured the politics thread is more appropriate due to where this conversation is likely to go...



The AMR is hard to find on that chart at all.  It's a small portion of the first quarter of 2020, and then it basically disappears.  I guess that's good for us.  Could be creeping back in the last two months.....hard to tell.  

Re: another thread entirely:  stacked bar charts aren't in the top 5 of worthless, misleading visualization tools, but they're in the top 10.  

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #44869 on: May 21, 2025, 01:36:46 PM »
The AMR is hard to find on that chart at all.  It's a small portion of the first quarter of 2020, and then it basically disappears.  I guess that's good for us.  Could be creeping back in the last two months.....hard to tell. 

Re: another thread entirely:  stacked bar charts aren't in the top 5 of worthless, misleading visualization tools, but they're in the top 10. 
I mean, I feel like you've eliminated pretty much every style of visualization tool.  What IS acceptable to you?

And yes, the first point of the chart above is to illustrate that although the current outbreak in Texas/USA is the largest in I think 25 years now, it's not something new in the world, or unique to the USA.

Now that doesn't mean we should stop pushing for measles vaccinations in the USA, but it does tell me at least, that with so many very large external threat vectors, it was and is inevitable that the measles would make it back into the US at some point, into one of the largely undervaxed or unvaxed populations, which are often the insular religious sects like Mennonites.

But we should absolutely be careful that we don't allow anti-vax ideology to creep into previously willing populations.

And finally, there have been more child deaths this season from flu and RSV, than from the measles, so we should be precise about where we're focusing our vaccination messaging and resources.
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