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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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847badgerfan

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Not sure how long until a federal judge vacates his wins, tho. 
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The main thing I strongly dislike is this "big beautiful bill" coming out of the House.

Republicans claim to be cutting spending, and they simply aren't, at all (maybe some in a few areas offset by more spending elsewhere).

I still think the DOGE "cuts" are ... mostly fake or inconsequential.

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The main thing I strongly dislike is this "big beautiful bill" coming out of the House.

Republicans claim to be cutting spending, and they simply aren't, at all (maybe some in a few areas offset by more spending elsewhere).

I still think the DOGE "cuts" are ... mostly fake or inconsequential.
Yup. Wake me when any meaningful cuts are made.

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The main thing I strongly dislike is this "big beautiful bill" coming out of the House.

Republicans claim to be cutting spending, and they simply aren't, at all (maybe some in a few areas offset by more spending elsewhere).

I still think the DOGE "cuts" are ... mostly fake or inconsequential.


What's in the bill?  

And I really think counting on Republicans to reduce spending is like me counting on my dog not to get into the cat food bowls....she knows what she should do but she can't help herself, and nobody should've expected anything different. 

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1.  Yes.

2.  The legislation to pump money into the economy post COVID.

3.  The deal about student loans.

tps://tucson.com/opinion/column/wall-street-journal-biden-s-student-loan-boast-the-supreme-court-didn-t-stop-me/article_0b4a9704-eb3b-5c87-a60b-6b201c2bc98a.html
The Jan 6er fixation fascinates me. Mostly because it’s such a pure “they’re on my team,” issue.

Ahhh, The stimulus stuff.

The last part is interesting because it’s not exactly “ignoring the Supreme Court.” As far as I’ve read, the court said The particular legal vehicle they were using was a no-go. 

bayareabadger

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What's in the bill? 

And I really think counting on Republicans to reduce spending is like me counting on my dog not to get into the cat food bowls....she knows what she should do but she can't help herself, and nobody should've expected anything different. 
Does the dog really know she shouldn’t do it? I’m not talking about the metaphor, I’m talking with the actual dog.

847badgerfan

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The Jan 6er fixation fascinates me. Mostly because it’s such a pure “they’re on my team,” issue.

Ahhh, The stimulus stuff.

The last part is interesting because it’s not exactly “ignoring the Supreme Court.” As far as I’ve read, the court said The particular legal vehicle they were using was a no-go.
I don't know what team they were on (there were a lot of plants in there too), but most of them were not violent and should not have sat in jail awaiting trial for as long as they did. One of them was shot dead by Capital police.
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Does the dog really know she shouldn’t do it? I’m not talking about the metaphor, I’m talking with the actual dog.

Oh yeah, for sure.  She'd do it while we were watching her if she thought it was okay, but she won't.  It's moot now, because we got some kind of furniture box thing that holds cat food which the cats can get into, but a bigger dog can't.  But when we're not watching her, she still tries.  We walk in there and catch her with her butt hanging out the opening, trying to shove herself as far in there as she can get.  It's hilarious.  

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I don't know what team they were on (there were a lot of plants in there too), but most of them were not violent and should not have sat in jail awaiting trial for as long as they did. One of them was shot dead by Capital police.
Nobody cares because the cop was a left winger and a preferred minority while the deceased was a deplorable Trump supporter and white.  Police violence is only criticized when it is directed at preferred minorities.  

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Leading up to the 2020 election, for the first time I read each Party's official platform document thingy.  Actually, I believe the Republican platform was just a quick document that ratified and endorsed the 2016 platform, so I guess what I really read was the 2016 one.  One was about 40 pages, the other nearly 80, iirc, but I don't remember which was which.  The Republican platform covered a wide range of things, a lot of which I agreed with, and noted with dissatisfaction that the politicians actually do very little to achieve, imo.  Seemingly half of the Democratic platform was an invective against Trump, and the other half included ideals/policy stance.  Overall, it seemed those official documents were a reasonable outline of what the parties claim to be about.  Maybe it's just a lot harder to articulate what they need to in Instagrammable sound-bytes. 
This is hardly a new phenomenon.  The platforms are beyond irrelevant.  

medinabuckeye1

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Not pushing back against Trump enough?  That's practically the only thing they've been doing.

What he should be thinking is, not achieving their own platform agenda and goals effectively.  And that should lead to some introspection as to why exactly that is...
This is a very important point.  If you are talking on the other guy's turf, you are losing. That is a very old political truism.  

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Nobody cares because the cop was a left winger and a preferred minority while the deceased was a deplorable Trump supporter and white.  Police violence is only criticized when it is directed at preferred minorities. 

This is true, of course.

Seems the bias made it's way to migration as well.  

bayareabadger

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I don't know what team they were on (there were a lot of plants in there too), but most of them were not violent and should not have sat in jail awaiting trial for as long as they did. One of them was shot dead by Capital police.
I think you might just know the team. 

If that was a lib mob that did that, with the sentences many got, lord, folks would be posting “treason is legal” on this board for years. 

The concern for the woman who was shot, also interesting. People like to talk about shooting folks who break into places. Those same people are suddenly real worried about someone getting shot while breaking into a place. 

 

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