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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43750 on: April 23, 2025, 08:48:19 AM »
When you align yourself with a political ideology that other people came up with, you have officially turned your brain off, and someone else is doing the driving.

I can't take people like that seriously.
I take it a step farther. If someone gets too deep into the partisan content part of politics, I turn down how seriously I take them.

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« Reply #43751 on: April 23, 2025, 09:02:46 AM »
My voting record:

I was too young to vote for Reagan, but he would have had mine.

1988: GHWB
1992: Ross Perot
1996: Bill Clinton
2000: GWB (worst president in my voting lifetime)
2004: Against Kerry
2008: McCain
2012: Gary Johnson
2016: Against Hillary
2020: Against Biden (2nd worst)
2024: Against Harris
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43752 on: April 23, 2025, 09:06:42 AM »
I used to vote "against the other guy/gal", and then I decided to quit voting, or vote write in as a very minor protest.  I don't like any of these folks that get foisted upon us.

I can't name a current politician I respect beyond maybe some minor issues to the side.  The System is broken, in my view.

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« Reply #43753 on: April 23, 2025, 09:14:53 AM »
Pretty much. Has been for a while now.

I like our local US Rep, mostly because he helped me with my Internal Raping Service problem.
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« Reply #43754 on: April 23, 2025, 09:22:57 AM »
My voting record:

I was too young to vote for Reagan, but he would have had mine.

1988: GHWB
1992: Ross Perot
1996: Bill Clinton
2000: GWB (worst president in my voting lifetime)
2004: Against Kerry
2008: McCain
2012: Gary Johnson
2016: Against Hillary
2020: Against Biden (2nd worst)
2024: Against Harris
Some of the people I voted for in the past I would not vote for now, even the ones that lost.  Honestly I thought Clinton was a good president, Reagan was the best, Biden the worst, GWB 2nd worst but not terrible.  I never thought Obama was great or terrible, he did the job with dignity.  I wish GHWB had won in '92, still not really sure why he didn't.  

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« Reply #43755 on: April 23, 2025, 09:24:32 AM »
Some of the people I voted for in the past I would not vote for now, even the ones that lost.  Honestly I thought Clinton was a good president, Reagan was the best, Biden the worst, GWB 2nd worst but not terrible.  I never thought Obama was great or terrible, he did the job with dignity.  I wish GHWB had won in '92, still not really sure why he didn't
Ross Perot took a lot of his votes - mine included.
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« Reply #43756 on: April 23, 2025, 09:29:54 AM »
Ross Perot took a lot of his votes - mine included.
I was 16 at the time, I don't really remember the big reason why they voted him out.  I do remember the economy was in a recession or lull, but it wasn't terrible to my memory.  We had just won the Gulf War 110-0, deficit was a mere 5 or so trillion (seems like a dream now doesn't it?).  Honestly things were pretty good then.  

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« Reply #43757 on: April 23, 2025, 09:41:12 AM »
The country was starting to be frustrated, I think, with the current older class of candidates, and the recession certainly hurt Bush in 1992.  Clinton looked like a fresh face who would change things up.  I also think we may be in a cycle where any incumbent for President is going to be in trouble running for a second term.  Voters seem to want something different, even if the different person is still part of the System, they vote hoping he/she is better and against she/he who is in office.

It's a lot easier to complain than to fix.  So, the incumbent is subjected to negative ads not easily rebutted and the FNG can sort of waltz along claiming he/she will fix it all.

Imagine we hit a recession in 2025/6.  The House will go Democratic, Trump won't be able to get much done that is real, and Vance, presuming he runs, will have that anchor.  The Democrats run say Newsom out of CA who has a flashy campaign with some vague rhetoric and he wins, only to run into reality, and then he loses in 2032.

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« Reply #43758 on: April 23, 2025, 09:43:14 AM »
Clinton played saxophone on television and MTV convinced all of the younger voters to elect him.

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« Reply #43759 on: April 23, 2025, 09:46:52 AM »
Clinton played saxophone on television and MTV convinced all of the younger voters to elect him.
It was certainly a turning point for many.  

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« Reply #43760 on: April 23, 2025, 09:46:57 AM »
Newsom's record is atrocious. I don't think he can win. Shapiro, on the other hand, well, he can win.

I also don't think Vance can win.

There will be an R primary, in my opinion. Someone fresh needs to emerge.
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« Reply #43761 on: April 23, 2025, 09:48:51 AM »
It was certainly a turning point for many. 
It was my first election that I was able to vote in, I missed the '88 election by a year.  I proudly voted for George the 1st and told all of my college friends they were complete idiots who had let MTV decide their vote for them.

I was very tolerant in my youth.

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« Reply #43762 on: April 23, 2025, 09:49:10 AM »
I wonder if we will ever have a Gen X as president?  I don't think Kamala was Gen X.  Not sure about Vance.  Technically, Biden was not a boomer.  I think Clinton and Obama were Boomers.  Biden was "silent generation".  

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« Reply #43763 on: April 23, 2025, 09:52:01 AM »
Vance is a Millennial, I think.
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