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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #42630 on: March 05, 2025, 11:36:18 AM »
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« Reply #42631 on: March 05, 2025, 11:45:14 AM »
The U.S. is also a major food exporter. That is a segment of the economy that will likely take a big hit if we get into recriprocal tarriff wars.

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« Reply #42632 on: March 05, 2025, 11:49:41 AM »
The U.S. is also a major food exporter. That is a segment of the economy that will likely take a big hit if we get into recriprocal tarriff wars.
Well to be fair, the current new US tariffs are in many cases our reciprocal response to existing tariffs or other financial obstacles already levied against us.  This is the corresponding reaction to some countries that have treated in unfair competition against the US, for decades in some cases.

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« Reply #42633 on: March 05, 2025, 11:55:34 AM »
Sure, but expecting no change to the status quo is wishful thinking. Countries (including Canada, China, and Mexico) will retaliate against the goods they import from the U.S.

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« Reply #42634 on: March 05, 2025, 11:56:03 AM »
if they get hungry, they'll pay the tariff
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« Reply #42635 on: March 05, 2025, 12:11:33 PM »
Sure, but expecting no change to the status quo is wishful thinking. Countries (including Canada, China, and Mexico) will retaliate against the goods they import from the U.S.
They will, and are, but it's worth noting if they have a trade surplus with us, they have somewhat limited options available.

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« Reply #42636 on: March 05, 2025, 12:16:07 PM »
They will, and are, but it's worth noting if they have a trade surplus with us, they have somewhat limited options available.
Yup.

And many of the countries we're talking about-- and specifically Mexico and China-- already have a significant trade surplus with the US.  In many cases, this trade imbalance exists partially because of the tariffs and other trade obstacles they've historically imposed against us.

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« Reply #42637 on: March 05, 2025, 12:18:16 PM »
Yup.

And many of the countries we're talking about-- and specifically Mexico and China-- already have a significant trade surplus with the US.  In many cases, this trade imbalance exists partially because of the tariffs and other trade obstacles they've historically imposed against us.
How is it that so many people don't know about this? Ignorance by choice?
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« Reply #42638 on: March 05, 2025, 12:19:37 PM »
How is it that so many people don't know about this? Ignorance by choice?
I think eyes glaze over for many when economic issues get discussed, and they call back on their political persuasion for comfort.

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« Reply #42639 on: March 05, 2025, 12:46:08 PM »
I think eyes glaze over for many when economic issues get discussed, and they call back on their political persuasion for comfort.

"Trump if for it?  I hate it."


Or in my case, "Friedman against it?  I hate it."  

My eyes did glaze over in college econ classes, although I made good grades in them.  Now, I think, I'd probably enjoy learning economics much more.  

Incidentally, I really do think Thomas Sowell's "Basic Economics" should be required reading for everyone.  It's long, but do it anyway.  It's plain, useful, and somehow he managed to make it not-boring.  

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« Reply #42640 on: March 05, 2025, 12:52:07 PM »
847B will get right on that
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« Reply #42641 on: March 05, 2025, 12:56:15 PM »
I've read it.
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« Reply #42642 on: March 05, 2025, 01:08:25 PM »
I'm confused. You're all agreeing that our food producers have nothing to worry about? Clarify that for me.

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« Reply #42643 on: March 05, 2025, 01:13:43 PM »
I'm confused. You're all agreeing that our food producers have nothing to worry about? Clarify that for me.

China and Mexico are #1 and #2 purchasers of US agricultural exports, and they already both have significant trade surpluses with the US.  There's a reason they import so much food from the US and that's not going away just because they might get sore that we're finally evening the score in some other areas.  I suppose they could triple-dog tariff us, but really with the size of imbalances they're running which stem in some part, or even in large part, from their existing unfair trade practices, they really don't have a lot of room to make further changes.

Like FF said-- they'll pay the tariff if they're hungry.

 

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