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also: major problem with those glp-1 drugs is that people are not just losing fat- as much as 40% to 60% of drug users total weight loss is lean body mass.

you’re just flat out much better off not taking the drug unless you’re morbidly obese with diabetes and you absolutely have to take it. the drug is being abused by vain people looking to lose a quick 10-15-20 pounds without having to do anything and they’ll remain on the drug so they don’t gain the weight back. 

Edited To Add:  I will add the caveat that my family and friends are middle class or above, and I agree with the suggestions above that the poorest folks tend make bad food choices at least partially because crap processed food is cheaper.

This is what I'm thinking of most, I guess.  There's the prohibitive cost of better food (at least that's the way it is now, I don't know enough about food production to know if it has to be that way or not), and then there's also the mindset.  

I don't know a non-dick way to say this, so I'm just gonna put it out there.  We had a lot of poor patients, and their financial situation was not the only difference between them and the average middle class patient (or middle-class person I've ever known).  They were resistant to quite a lot of things, because quite a lot of things didn't make sense to them, no matter how simply you explained it, if you get my drift, and also there's just a mindset of "I don't care about that, so don't bother me with it."  They might be real interested in Real Housewives, but talk to them about their cholesterol (or politics, or books, etc.) and their eyes glaze over and they let you know real quick "we ain't troubling ourselves with that."  If I had to guess, I'd say indeed, their financial status was not unrelated to their mentality/learned behaviors.  

I'm generalizing, though, so there's that.  We certainly had lower-class patients who weren't the brightest who were happy to hear what the doctors had to say and did their best to comply, if they could afford it.  We also had a few upper and middle class patients who appeared to struggle to match the intelligence of a brick (some of them were on too many meds for too long, tho, think, the Lexapro/Xanax crowd).  And of course, some lower-class patients who were quite intelligent.  I'm just saying, on the whole, there was a whole different mentality and way of life there.  

I’m sort of fascinated by some of the resistance to the weight loss drugs. In part because it feels like people assign sort of a moral element to it, as if there’s something sort of not respectable about losing weight that way.

Wife tells me most of those were designed for people who are morbidly obese, and the side effects/drawbacks/tradeoffs that come (as with any med) are typically thought to be better left avoided by people with moderate or small weight problems.  

I suppose a counter-argument is, her education was designed by Big Pharma/bad food pyramids, etc. 

Wife tells me most of those were designed for people who are morbidly obese, and the side effects/drawbacks/tradeoffs that come (as with any med) are typically thought to be better left avoided by people with moderate or small weight problems. 

I suppose a counter-argument is, her education was designed by Big Pharma/bad food pyramids, etc. 

That seems fair. The logic of, “this is not a good idea” certainly makes sense to me there. 

similar to education, ..... if nothing gets done at home, there's no fix

I wish I didn't wait until it was almost too late to act upon my health.

I was exercising. Just ate shitty and smoked. It almost got me.

Now I plan to be a pain in the ass until I'm 100.