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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37884 on: October 12, 2024, 11:20:32 AM »
I know plenty of folks earning less than the median who are not homeless or even close to that.  A lot depends on where you choose to live of course.  The US defined poverty level is ~$15,000 for a single person.  Obviously, that level is going to be difficult, but you can find apartments/trailers for $500 a month in places.  And that's the poverty level.  

The folks who are homeless in the US are either mentally unsound, drug addicted, want to be that way, or are in a temporary bad situation that usually doesn't last.

If you can hold down a job for $15 an hour you're earning double the amount above, still not great, but you're not homeless.

So, I disagree it requires some insane amount of relative wealth to avoid homelessness.

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« Reply #37885 on: October 12, 2024, 11:22:09 AM »
I know plenty of folks earning less than the median who are not homeless or even close to that.  A lot depends on where you choose to live of course.  The US defined poverty level is ~$15,000 for a single person.  Obviously, that level is going to be difficult, but you can find apartments/trailers for $500 a month in places.  And that's the poverty level. 

The folks who are homeless in the US are either mentally unsound, drug addicted, want to be that way, or are in a temporary bad situation that usually doesn't last.

If you can hold down a job for $15 an hour you're earning double the amount above, still not great, but you're not homeless.

So, I disagree it requires some insane amount of relative wealth to avoid homelessness.
Try getting a good night's sleep in a $500/month place.  Try it for one night, cincy.  I dare you.
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« Reply #37886 on: October 12, 2024, 11:28:39 AM »
I lived four years in an apartment that cost $125 a month, quite a long time ago.  It was hardly cushy and the community was "diverse".  I didn't say life at $30 K a year would be cushy, only that one needn't be homeless at that point, and that it doesn't take some insane amount of wealth not to be homeless.

The vast majority of us are not homeless, right?  The vast majority of us don't have insane wealth either.

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« Reply #37887 on: October 12, 2024, 11:34:59 AM »
Yes, we're insanely wealthy but it takes an insane amount of relative wealth to avoid homelessness here, too.  After taxes and rent/mortgage, you might have half your earned money.  Just out of your hands before you even do anything with it. 
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« Reply #37888 on: October 12, 2024, 11:39:38 AM »
Is there evidence that you're not the chef from the Muppets?

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« Reply #37889 on: October 12, 2024, 11:41:52 AM »
What would you consider to be "an insane amount of relative wealth" in the US?


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« Reply #37890 on: October 12, 2024, 11:42:54 AM »
What would you consider to be "an insane amount of relative wealth" in the US?


THe poor American is richer than most of the rest of humanity.  Hence the "relative."

If you need everything spelled out for you, go back to preparing lunch for the Muppets.
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« Reply #37891 on: October 12, 2024, 11:44:39 AM »
You claim it takes that to avoid homelessness, I was idly curious what figure you'd attach to that "insane" amount.

But I see you now are desparately back tracking and distracting, fair enough.


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« Reply #37892 on: October 12, 2024, 11:45:37 AM »
Whatever gets you through the day.  I don't respect you nor care what you think.  
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« Reply #37893 on: October 12, 2024, 11:47:44 AM »
Keep posting your high exaggerated silliness here, it's very entertaining.

I don't think you've topped the egg lobby comments yet.

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« Reply #37894 on: October 12, 2024, 11:50:20 AM »
You benefit from my not having the time or effort to explain every fucking little thing for you.  You win.  Celebrate!  Enjoy your 4pm dinner and get your old ass to bed before the 7:00 games begin.
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« Reply #37895 on: October 12, 2024, 12:01:02 PM »
Ah yes, when someone is called out and made to look silly, the "insults" (and profanity) are bound to follow in lieu of any adult discussion.  They aren't even very creative insults.  Keep it up by all means, the board needs posters who are silly.


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« Reply #37896 on: October 12, 2024, 12:06:51 PM »
You can't make anyone look silly.  We're bickering back and forth now.  You're a stooge.  Fuck off.  Eat shit.  Your time is short, spend it more wisely.  

What a tiny human you are.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #37897 on: October 12, 2024, 01:54:33 PM »
One thing that’s often missing from the discussions  around poverty is how expensive it is to be poor. Everything costs more when your opportunities are limited. One thing CD said needs a response: it is very hard for poor people to move. So while there are cheaper places to move to, for a host of structural reasons (family, job opportunities, costs of moving, costs of rental deposits, etc), “just move” is often unrealistic advice for the poor.

Nonetheless, the idea of only allowing wealthy people to immigrate here would completely change the fabric of what built this country. This country has always extolled the virtue of upward mobility and the idea that even if you have nothing, you can make something here if you try.

There’s a lot of mythology in that, but opportunities are still there, and limiting immigration to people who aren’t looking for that, as I said, would be a fundamental change in the cultural fabric of our country.

 

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