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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #34678 on: July 18, 2024, 01:04:00 PM »
In this day, why do we even still have rallies?  I can't imagine standing outside for hours, dealing with crowds and security, to watch an asshole say the same thing he always says.  I wouldn't watch either of them speak in my backyard
Because people go.

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« Reply #34679 on: July 18, 2024, 01:06:53 PM »

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« Reply #34680 on: July 18, 2024, 01:08:07 PM »
JB Pritzker?


This man feels like a Harris VP. The only move “up” for him is Illinois senator, and that won’t be marred by a failed VP run.

Basically, he doesn’t have enough ceiling to be an electability risk. He’d be a terrible pick in terms of value, but a guy in there if no one better wants it.

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« Reply #34681 on: July 18, 2024, 01:09:15 PM »
Does it help?
I think it creates some level of positive vibes for a candidate. Plus some word of mouth. 

We still live in a country where people want to see famous people. 

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« Reply #34682 on: July 18, 2024, 01:14:26 PM »
Excitement?
To paraphrase those Trump supports that A) I'm acquaintances with, and B) have publicly showed excitement since the attempt:

"ZOMG TRUMP IS MY MAN!!! I'M MORE MAGA THAN EVER!!! AAAAAAA!!!!"

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« Reply #34683 on: July 18, 2024, 01:15:05 PM »
Maybe I'm being too sensitive, but what happened Saturday has really shaken me to the core. I don't care who it was. It shouldn't happen.

A week ago, I'd have laughed at it.

There are people out there who wish the shooter was better at shooting. Some have even said it out loud. That is sick and very disappointing (at best).
To be fair, I get it. I actually posted it on another forum and put up a disclaimer saying that I did so with the goal of not intending to offend. And that any time something like this would be posted in close proximity to an assassination attempt, it DEFINITELY is skirting the line of poor taste, and may have crossed it. And it would have been jumping WAY on the other side of it if the attempt had been successful. I don't mean to make light of the assassination attempt. I mean merely to make a joke at the expense of Trump. 

But as for timing, Saturday reminded us all of mortality, both our own and his. As well as the thin line between being here and not being so, quite often being out of our own control. 

What happened Saturday was horrible. But if we can't laugh in the face of horror, we risk letting the knowledge of it consume us. I tend to battle depression, and comedy is one way of keeping the abyss at bay. 

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« Reply #34684 on: July 18, 2024, 02:05:19 PM »
This man feels like a Harris VP. The only move “up” for him is Illinois senator, and that won’t be marred by a failed VP run.

Basically, he doesn’t have enough ceiling to be an electability risk. He’d be a terrible pick in terms of value, but a guy in there if no one better wants it.
He does have his own lockdown problems, and a lot of issues with crime.

It shouldn't matter, but he's good a "looks" issue too. And that does seem to matter to some. He kinda makes Chris Christie look skinny.

What do you know about the NC governor and his long-term aspirations, as well as what he's accomplished?
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« Reply #34685 on: July 18, 2024, 02:38:51 PM »
He does have his own lockdown problems, and a lot of issues with crime.

It shouldn't matter, but he's good a "looks" issue too. And that does seem to matter to some. He kinda makes Chris Christie look skinny.

What do you know about the NC governor and his long-term aspirations, as well as what he's accomplished?
I mean, he’s kinda Dustin Sherer. No one wants him to start or play, but they want someone different, and he is that.

I’ve not heard much about Cooper, other than that he’s generally considered fine. He’s had a pretty stable career, 14 years in the state legislature, 16 as AG, then governor.

His tenure was also kinda blah. The gerrymandered and hyper Republican legislature basically blocked him most of the time. He beat one guy who was sort of bonkers by a tiny margin and then beat a kinda blah challenger for his second term. Just not much juice.

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« Reply #34686 on: July 18, 2024, 02:53:46 PM »
Maybe I'm being too sensitive, but what happened Saturday has really shaken me to the core. I don't care who it was. It shouldn't happen.

A week ago, I'd have laughed at it.

There are people out there who wish the shooter was better at shooting. Some have even said it out loud. That is sick and very disappointing (at best).
It has me very worried in large part because I feel like it MASSIVELY increased the chances of further assignation attempts:
  • Some leftist nut, perhaps encouraged by the "wish he was a better shot" type posts will decide to "finish the job", or
  • Some MAGA nut, perhaps encouraged by the rampant conspiracy theorizing on the right will decide to "retaliate"

I was young when Reagan was shot.  I remember when it happened, I was five.  I think it is the first "national event" that I can actually remember.  I was in the backyard on my swing and the older neighbor girl came out and told me that the President had been shot.  

I'm too young to know but question for some of the older posters:
It seems to me that back then everyone of all stripes more-or-less agreed that Hinkley was just plain nuts and there was not a significant number of people who thought either that it was an inside job to get Reagan or a set-up by him to make himself look good.  Am I wrong on that?  


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« Reply #34687 on: July 18, 2024, 03:07:17 PM »
It has me very worried in large part because I feel like it MASSIVELY increased the chances of further assignation attempts:
  • Some leftist nut, perhaps encouraged by the "wish he was a better shot" type posts will decide to "finish the job", or
  • Some MAGA nut, perhaps encouraged by the rampant conspiracy theorizing on the right will decide to "retaliate"

I was young when Reagan was shot.  I remember when it happened, I was five.  I think it is the first "national event" that I can actually remember.  I was in the backyard on my swing and the older neighbor girl came out and told me that the President had been shot. 

I'm too young to know but question for some of the older posters:
It seems to me that back then everyone of all stripes more-or-less agreed that Hinkley was just plain nuts and there was not a significant number of people who thought either that it was an inside job to get Reagan or a set-up by him to make himself look good.  Am I wrong on that? 


You are not wrong.

Reagan had this country pretty unified even at the beginning. At the end, unity was almost iron-clad.

I mean, only one state didn't go for him in 1984. Of course, it was the Goophs.
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« Reply #34688 on: July 18, 2024, 03:15:45 PM »
You are not wrong.

Reagan had this country pretty unified even at the beginning. At the end, unity was almost iron-clad.

I mean, only one state didn't go for him in 1984. Of course, it was the Goophs.
Well, his opponent was a Minnesota "native son" and even at that:
  • Mondale didn't carry a majority even in Minnesota, he won with a plurality of 49.72%
  • Mondale only beat Reagan in Minnesota by a little less than 4k votes or 0.18%


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« Reply #34689 on: July 18, 2024, 03:21:18 PM »

Mondale only beat Reagan
Only the Goophs could make that happen.

And it's why they will never win the B1G again. Ever.
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« Reply #34690 on: July 18, 2024, 03:38:36 PM »
Carter was leading or even with Reagan fairly late in the race in 1980.


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« Reply #34691 on: July 18, 2024, 04:03:37 PM »
Well, his opponent was a Minnesota "native son" and even at that:
  • Mondale didn't carry a majority even in Minnesota, he won with a plurality of 49.72%
  • Mondale only beat Reagan in Minnesota by a little less than 4k votes or 0.18%


Likewise, the only times Republicans have won statewide elections here since 1994 have been in goofy 3-person races with the winner getting low-to-mid 40s, with deus ex machina events in the deep stretch that threw them the election.

The state GOP brought the RNC here in 2008 thinking that they could turn that trend into electoral success. They haven't won a statewide election here since. And the only time they controlled the Legislature since then, it ended with a gay marriage ban on the ballot, a 3 week state employee lockout that didn't end until the state was about to go dry, and a wipeout at the polls in 2012.

Quiet competence sells in this state. Republicans don't do it.

 

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