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847badgerfan

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« Reply #33432 on: June 22, 2024, 11:02:01 AM »
In this case, it's about a domestic abuser (or at least one with a restraining order), which is a concept the founders almost assuredly wouldn't have recognized.

It's an odd spot because once you start putting in exceptions because they're "right" you shift from originalism to things being a living document. And people have different outlooks at what "right" is.

If we live in a world with a healthy amount of gun control, this aligns with that. If we want one where there's a broad second amendment and originalist interpretations, it doesn't. And if it's just vibes, that's an unstable way to work through the law.
Congress could fix this with an amendment, but I doubt we will ever see another amendment. They have a hard enough time with ordinary legislation.
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« Reply #33433 on: June 22, 2024, 11:06:06 AM »
Congress could fix this with an amendment, but I doubt we will ever see another amendment. They have a hard enough time with ordinary legislation.
An amendment of course take more than just Congress.  They passed a fair number that never became law.

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« Reply #33434 on: June 22, 2024, 11:10:47 AM »
O'Connor v. Donaldson :: 422 U.S. 563 (1975) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center
O'Connor v. Donaldson :: 422 U.S. 563 (1975) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center

It is pretty easy to see how this could be abused before this decision, and likely was often as not.  And this is the main reason we have so many "crazy homeless people" walking around free.  The police can't "lock them up" for being delusional or schizophrenic or whatever else unless they are clearly a danger.
One of those changes that was on balance "right" even if it causes many some degree of discomfort. 

(It also speaks to the sort of intractability of dealing with homelessness issues. The most logical solutions at this point involve giving opportunities at shelter, and then hoping folks do OK with it And the most natural alternative is costly, semi-unproductive and violates people's rights, but it's the one folks want most often)

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« Reply #33435 on: June 22, 2024, 11:11:11 AM »
Congress could fix this with an amendment, but I doubt we will ever see another amendment. They have a hard enough time with ordinary legislation.
How would an amendment fix it? 

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« Reply #33436 on: June 22, 2024, 11:14:36 AM »
An Amendment COULD in theory rescind the Second Amendment, in hole or in part.  Some gun rights folks would like the first half of it taken out, for example.




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« Reply #33437 on: June 22, 2024, 11:20:50 AM »
All this past week the first soul to greet me each morning at the jobsite is a seagull nesting her eggs in the gutters of a utility building beside where I park. I've been scattering broken saltine crackers near the building, worried she's not eating if she isn't venturing too far from her eggs. But if I get too close to try tossing bits of crackers, she squawks. After enough squawking a second seagull appeared and has remained beside her. One morning I saw them feeding each other.

Later I researched. Turns out Seagulls mate for life. They take turns incubating their eggs and they co-parent once the eggs are hatched. During breeding seasons mates will pair back up in March and April and build nest and lay eggs in May and June.


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« Reply #33438 on: June 22, 2024, 11:22:12 AM »
An Amendment COULD in theory rescind the Second Amendment, in hole or in part.  Some gun rights folks would like the first half of it taken out, for example.




Yeah, that seems like it would be a hard sell to a lot of folks. 

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« Reply #33439 on: June 22, 2024, 11:32:05 AM »
All this past week the first soul to greet me each morning at the jobsite is a seagull nesting her eggs in the gutters of a utility building beside where I park. I've been scattering broken saltine crackers near the building, worried she's not eating if she isn't venturing too far from her eggs. But if I get too close to try tossing bits of crackers, she squawks. After enough squawking a second seagull appeared and has remained beside her. One morning I saw them feeding each other.

Later I researched. Turns out Seagulls mate for life. They take turns incubating their eggs and they co-parent once the eggs are hatched. During breeding seasons mates will pair back up in March and April and build nest and lay eggs in May and June.

[img width=260.182 height=375]https://i.imgur.com/VVkBKQM.jpeg[/img]
Very cool. Most years we have a bird that nests on the top of the wreath on our front door. This year there are 3 eggs (at least one of which has already hatched).

It's all well and good unless someone opens the door unexpectedly at night and mama bird heads for the light source (inside). Which leads to a frantic effort for me to extricate the terrified bird safely, and for my wife to console the 95 lb golden retriever and keep him safe from the 5 oz bird :57:

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« Reply #33440 on: June 22, 2024, 11:33:32 AM »

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« Reply #33441 on: June 22, 2024, 11:34:12 AM »
An Amendment COULD in theory rescind the Second Amendment, in hole or in part.  Some gun rights folks would like the first half of it taken out, for example.




An amendment of course take more than just Congress.  They passed a fair number that never became law.
No question. But that's where an amendment starts. We'll never see another one.
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« Reply #33442 on: June 22, 2024, 01:40:53 PM »
The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. None of the 27 amendments to the Constitution have been proposed by constitutional convention. The Congress proposes an amendment in the form of a joint resolution. Since the President does not have a constitutional role in the amendment process, the joint resolution does not go to the White House for signature or approval. The original document is forwarded directly to NARA's Office of the Federal Register (OFR) for processing and publication. The OFR adds legislative history notes to the joint resolution and publishes it in slip law format. The OFR also assembles an information package for the States which includes formal "red-line" copies of the joint resolution, copies of the joint resolution in slip law format, and the statutory procedure for ratification under 1 U.S.C. 106b.

I learned something, I thought a President also had to sign it.

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« Reply #33443 on: June 23, 2024, 08:51:51 AM »
I posted in the other thread we finally had lunch at the Cypress Street Pub.  We were out for a walk and I wanted to try something new, and the place I intended to go is closed for lunch, which is odd because it's Chinese.  We walked a bit more and finally strolled by the above.  They have a lot of shade, we sat under a ceiling fan, it was pretty nice, the music wasn't too loud, etc.

Food was pretty good, it was "brunch" and my wife liked hers, mine was solid.  I had a bloody mary which wasn't very good, too much worstershire for me.  They were moderately crowded and service was good.  It's about 1.5 miles from us, so a bit of a walk.

But good to have another solid option out there, most "sport bar" food here is boring, to me.

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« Reply #33444 on: June 23, 2024, 08:55:56 AM »
didya get a nice runny egg?
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« Reply #33445 on: June 23, 2024, 09:00:29 AM »
I did, I ordered their salmon eggs benedict, she had the ever popular avocado toast.

The other diners were pretty young, but this is a young neighborhood in the main.  

It ended up being $56 after tip.:smiley_confused1:

 

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