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Gigem

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« Reply #22218 on: March 31, 2023, 03:16:07 PM »
This:  https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html  perfectly explains my stance on AI.  

Still waiting on "The Singularity" 

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« Reply #22219 on: March 31, 2023, 05:14:54 PM »
This:  https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html  perfectly explains my stance on AI. 

Still waiting on "The Singularity"
So your stance is... "It's probably bad, but could be good, and either way at some point it's either going to kill all humanity or make us all immortal."?

Yeah, same same. 

I know this isn't the books thread, but check out the "Silver Ships" series and the follow-on series by S.H. Jucha. In all honesty, they're not the best sci-fi out there. The plot of each book is a bit formulaic, and it's largely pulp sci-fi. Yet every time a new book is released I buy it and read it pretty much the first day. 

Apropos to this, a major portion of it is dealing with self-aware digital entities (known as SADEs), and eventually culminating in an unveiling of how they're formed and made to be partners with biological entities rather than fight them. Explored throughout the series are other aspects of malignant AI and similar issues. Might be up your alley. 

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« Reply #22220 on: March 31, 2023, 05:33:51 PM »
Per the link by @Gigem there's a discussion of nanotech in there. 

There's an interesting thing going on right now that isn't actually nanotech, but suggests a sort of post-scarcity world that might really transform a certain specific market. 

Have you all heard of lab-created diamonds? I hadn't until last fall. But yesterday was my 5 year anniversary, and although my wife and I don't normally exchange actual gifts, it's kind of the first "big" one. So I ordered her diamond earrings, which I knew she wanted. I did a bunch of research and actually landed on lab-created diamonds for the earrings. Why? Because they're no different at the molecular level than mined diamonds, but they're roughly 50% of the cost. I was able to buy two diamonds at just over 1C each, "super ideal" cut, D color, SI1 clarity (which isn't great but they're earrings, not an engagement ring), and the cost was about half of what equivalent mined diamonds would be. 

But the interesting thing about lab-created diamonds--and diamonds in general--is that I almost feel like I purchased a falling knife. 

The value of diamond isn't based on what it is. It's a piece of crystallized carbon that has nearly no intrinsic value. The value is based, pretty much entirely, on scarcity. Quality diamonds aren't expensive because there's something great about diamonds, they're expensive because they sparkle in jewelry and because they're rare. They're a good used to denote status because of the exclusivity of finding them in the ground, and the fact that there is more demand than supply. 

Right now, lab-created diamonds are cheaper, IMHO largely due to customer bias. They're cheaper not because they're different (again, at the molecular or quality level they're not different), but because the market is discounting them relative to mined diamonds. This creates a really weird situation IMHO. If you say that they're cheaper because they're not mined diamond, you also have to look at the economic cost of producing lab diamonds, and you might find that they're overpriced relative to production costs. Which would make them both underpriced (because they're being priced compared to traditional mined diamond costs) and overpriced (because there is a huge margin earned that is purely based on the traditional mined diamond costs). Obviously there is SOME positive margin earned between the price of lab-created diamonds on the market and the cost to produce, or else they wouldn't keep producing them. 

But the potential here is that a rapid increase in the quantity of lab-created diamonds on the market will actually remove the scarcity element that made diamonds an exclusive status good in the first place. If that's the case, diamond prices will fall. Mined diamonds likely will no longer be sold because there's no economic incentive to mine them when lab-created diamonds exist in high quantities. And lab-created diamonds will be produced at whatever level allows reasonable margin for someone who loves buying jewelry at Target or Jared, but all the "discerning" consumers will move on to another good that still has rarity and exclusion. 

I'm not worried. When these earrings arrive (next week--as mentioned we don't buy anniversary gifts so this will be a surprise that I can reasonably say is just because I love her and it just happens to be right after our 5th anniversary lol), I know she'll be ecstatic. But I wonder what the diamond market is going to look like in 10 years. Are diamonds still going to be a "girl's best friend", or is all the status aspect of diamond ownership going to erode because of a glut of lab-created diamonds showing up on the market?

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« Reply #22221 on: March 31, 2023, 07:51:34 PM »


The value of diamond isn't based on what it is. It's a piece of crystallized carbon that has nearly no intrinsic value. The value is based, pretty much entirely, on scarcity. Quality diamonds aren't expensive because there's something great about diamonds, they're expensive because they sparkle in jewelry and because they're rare. They're a good used to denote status because of the exclusivity of finding them in the ground, and the fact that there is more demand than supply.

I used to believe this, too, until I learned how they are formed.  
100 miles down in the mantle of the earth under insane pressure for possibly millions of years, and is jettisoned up through cones, only in certain areas. 
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« Reply #22222 on: April 01, 2023, 11:46:14 AM »
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« Reply #22223 on: April 01, 2023, 01:28:18 PM »
More demo starting near us, this is for the 60 story apt/condo building.  I wondered with the wife if we were getting overbuilt.  They have an ad for anyone wanting to lease, in a building that has to be 2 years out at least.



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« Reply #22224 on: April 01, 2023, 02:18:27 PM »
My wife noticed these lights zooming around in the park last night, it was pretty spectacular, they formed various symbols like the peace symbol and changed colors.  We learned they were dedicating a new MLK statue.



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« Reply #22225 on: April 01, 2023, 04:57:10 PM »
And at the top of the news

Yes our deepest fears have been realized the Tyrannosaurus Rex had lips

https://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/study-suggests-tyrannosaurus-rex-had-lips/

An intriguing new study paints a decidedly different picture of how some predatory dinosaurs, like the iconic Tyrannosaurus Rex, may have looked as it suggests that the monstrous creatures sported lips similar to those of lizards. The thought-provoking argument is An intriguing new study paints a decidedly different picture of how some predatory dinosaurs, like the iconic Tyrannosaurus Rex, may have looked as it suggests that the monstrous creatures sported lips similar to those of lizards. The thought-provoking argumut forward in a new paper by paleontologists Derek Larson, Kirstin Brink, and Dr Mark Witton. Noting that the nature of therapod or bipedal dinosaurs' mouths has long been a subject of debate in scientific circles, they indicated that depictions of the creatures in pop culture began to eschew lips around 40 years ago in what was likely a matter of artistic license.put forward in a new paper by paleontologists Derek Larson, Kirstin Brink, and Dr Mark Witton. Noting that the nature of therapod or bipedal dinosaurs' mouths has long been a subject of debate in scientific circles, they indicated that depictions of the creatures in pop culture began to eschew lips around 40 years ago in what was likely a matter of artistic license.
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« Reply #22226 on: April 01, 2023, 07:27:29 PM »
Reminds me of how young kids assign sex to different animals. 
T-Rexes are all male.  Bunnies and butterflies are girls. 
It's interesting how they do that.  Dangerous predators:  male.  Pretty, soft, scared of you:  female.
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Throw some lipstick on a T-Rex, they'll all lose their minds!
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« Reply #22227 on: April 01, 2023, 07:29:31 PM »
or just consider them females
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« Reply #22228 on: April 02, 2023, 12:52:47 AM »
or just consider them females
No, it short-circuits their brains.  
"He can't wear lipstick!  He's a boy!"
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« Reply #22229 on: April 02, 2023, 08:03:20 AM »
No, it short-circuits their brains. 
"He can't wear lipstick!  He's a boy!"
Even after all those drag queen story hours that you performed for them? 
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« Reply #22230 on: April 02, 2023, 05:13:36 PM »
Even still.
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« Reply #22231 on: April 03, 2023, 08:50:18 AM »
There should be jail time in this case.

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