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OrangeAfroMan

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« Reply #1918 on: January 28, 2021, 10:31:31 AM »
Who decides what is over valued?


The market (traders)?
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« Reply #1919 on: January 28, 2021, 10:33:10 AM »
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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« Reply #1920 on: January 28, 2021, 10:34:30 AM »

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« Reply #1921 on: January 28, 2021, 10:38:30 AM »
I see trading was halted, I presume by the exchange.

I'm curious what Robinhood offers over say Schwab.
The exchange couldn’t just halt it- they have no valid reason to. 

Robinhood no commissions, completely free. Robinhood is most likely toast after this imo. They are going to lose hundreds of thousands if not millions of users.

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« Reply #1922 on: January 28, 2021, 10:39:40 AM »
In a free and efficient market, traders decide prices, which are instantaneously accurate, nothing can be over valued.

The exchanges do have "trips" though that kick in at times.  

GME is back trading on Schwab anyway, apparently.

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« Reply #1923 on: January 28, 2021, 10:40:34 AM »
The exchange couldn’t just halt it- they have no valid reason to.

Robinhood no commissions, completely free. Robinhood is most likely toast after this imo. They are going to lose hundreds of thousands if not millions of users.
No commissions?  Just like Schwab?

At least on stock trades anyway.

The exchange can halt trading, overall, or on a specific stock.

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« Reply #1924 on: January 28, 2021, 10:44:18 AM »
I don't understand the Gamestop stock thing.
Why are a group of people doing this?
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« Reply #1925 on: January 28, 2021, 10:44:49 AM »
I have mixed feelings here. There is a value to protecting people from buying highly overvalued stock.
I don’t think you’re quite understanding what’s going on here. 

Main Street just destroyed Wall Street at their own games- and Wall Street is crying foul. 

Wall Street was shorting 140% of all Game Stop shares in existence. They were having their minions go on CNBC every day trying to drive that company to zero. That’s the real scandal. That should be illegal.

Citadel by the way- runs all Robinhoods trades for them.

They are trying to stop themselves from getting hurt. They don’t give a shit about protecting people.

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« Reply #1926 on: January 28, 2021, 10:48:07 AM »
I don't understand the Gamestop stock thing.
Why are a group of people doing this?
It was stated by a group of people on reddit- but other Wall Street hedge funds piggybacked on it.

It’s a short squeeze. Bunch of shrewd redditors noticed that GameStop stock deliberately being destroyed by a bunch of assholes who rig/manipulate markets all the time to make money without anyone saying a word- so they basically just gave them a taste of their own medicine. And now they don’t like it and are trying to cry foul and change the rules.

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« Reply #1927 on: January 28, 2021, 10:56:13 AM »
GameStop stock deliberately being destroyed by a bunch of assholes who rig/manipulate markets all the time to make money without anyone saying a word-
Hard to believe someone would do that, with all the ethical practices I've been told about here (with lots of money at stake).
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« Reply #1928 on: January 28, 2021, 11:24:01 AM »
I don’t think you’re quite understanding what’s going on here.

Main Street just destroyed Wall Street at their own games- and Wall Street is crying foul.

Wall Street was shorting 140% of all Game Stop shares in existence. They were having their minions go on CNBC every day trying to drive that company to zero. That’s the real scandal. That should be illegal.

Citadel by the way- runs all Robinhoods trades for them.

They are trying to stop themselves from getting hurt. They don’t give a shit about protecting people.
I understand all of that - the issue is now it appears that the hedge funds are mostly getting out of Gamestop.  So buying Gamestop stock now at $350 a share or whatever it is gets you...a share of stock that just days ago was trading at four dollars.  It has gone up because Gamestop is a failing company - that's why they got shorted in the first place.  So the populist message of buying and holding Gamestop stock now is benefiting the big investors you mentioned earlier who will be more than happy to make a ton of money on a mostly worthless stock.  The people who get screwed will be the ones who own the stock when it goes back in the toilet, and it appears to me that this may be the people who are being told to hold or buy to stick it to the man.

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« Reply #1929 on: January 28, 2021, 11:32:25 AM »
I don't understand the Gamestop stock thing.
Why are a group of people doing this?
1. Gamestop's grew on their business model of buying/selling video games.  But people have by and large turned to buying their games digitally, so used games is no longer a thing.  So lately Gamestop has gone in the tank.

2. Hedge funds, which exist mostly to do weird crazy things with the stock market, noticed this and shorted them.  That is, they borrow shares, sell them at the current rate, then plan on buying the shares back at a later time when the share price falls, thereby making a profit.  The downside to this is if the share price goes up, you have to buy them at whatever the rate is. 

3. People on reddit noticed that hedge funds were constantly shorting Gamestop, put out the word to buy the stocks.  So the price starting going up.  This has snowballed and the price has gone from a low of around 4 bucks to a high of around 450 bucks.  So any hedge fund who borrowed the stock at 4 bucks now has to pay back 450 bucks for each share they borrowed.  So hedge funds have lost billions of dollars on this.

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« Reply #1930 on: January 28, 2021, 11:33:49 AM »

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« Reply #1931 on: January 28, 2021, 11:36:47 AM »
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