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Topic: In other news (apolitical thread)...

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utee94

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #322 on: February 14, 2025, 09:33:03 AM »
Yeah I'm 5'10 as well, and 180 is actually a little heavy for me.  170 is a good weight and when I'm at my leanest, 160 is where I should be. 

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« Reply #323 on: February 14, 2025, 10:25:04 AM »
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« Reply #324 on: February 14, 2025, 10:47:54 AM »
LOL not arguing. It's more "violent agreement"...

My only point is that the math is the math. And the human psychology is the human psychology. Math-wise, increasing calorie burn should mean weight loss, because why would you increase calorie consumption? Psychology-wise, increasing calorie burn tends to increase calorie consumption.

It would.

I just mean that a significant reduction in calories > adding exercise + deliberately taking in the same or relatively fewer calories upon adding exercise.  The first way is going to lose more weight, faster, than the second way 9 times out of 10. 

That said, the optimal thing is to do both, since exercising is just so good for you all around.  

I just want to help the Aggie do as good as he can, fast as he can, because the world needs more Aggies for me to kick around.  

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« Reply #325 on: February 14, 2025, 10:50:26 AM »
There are plenty over here in my family.  Stop on by.

And yeah, it's really an 80/20 thing, diet vs. exercise.  But of course, exercise is good.  I'm back to running 3 miles during the week and 5 miles on a weekend day.  

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #326 on: February 14, 2025, 10:56:12 AM »
There are plenty over here in my family.  Stop on by.

And yeah, it's really an 80/20 thing, diet vs. exercise.  But of course, exercise is good.  I'm back to running 3 miles during the week and 5 miles on a weekend day. 
Hell yeah running! 

It feels like a society we have locked in very hard on weight when we should probably see it as a more global thing. Do you feel good? Can you do things? Is your body capable of things?

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« Reply #327 on: February 14, 2025, 11:06:09 AM »
Running is the one form of exercise I will avoid like the plague. 

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« Reply #328 on: February 14, 2025, 11:07:08 AM »
Running is the one form of exercise I will avoid like the plague.
Jogging gives me the runs.
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #329 on: February 14, 2025, 11:08:46 AM »
Jogging gives me the runs.
jogging leads to the runs

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« Reply #330 on: February 14, 2025, 11:09:48 AM »
Running is the one form of exercise I will avoid like the plague.
I get it.  I like cycling too, but for me running has always been a bit of a zen activity.  When I'm in shape I can zone out and run for hours without thinking about it.

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« Reply #331 on: February 14, 2025, 11:25:44 AM »
I get it.  I like cycling too, but for me running has always been a bit of a zen activity.  When I'm in shape I can zone out and run for hours without thinking about it.
For me it's the impact. At my size it is just WAY too much impact on my lower half. 

I realize it's probably because I have terrible running form, and if I learned to run properly it wouldn't be as hard on my body. But I hate it, so I'm not motivated to learn to do it better. 
 

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« Reply #332 on: February 14, 2025, 11:44:54 AM »
For me it's the impact. At my size it is just WAY too much impact on my lower half.

I realize it's probably because I have terrible running form, and if I learned to run properly it wouldn't be as hard on my body. But I hate it, so I'm not motivated to learn to do it better.
 
Running is an irritating one because if you’re really out of shape, you have to really work up to it.

and I joked with someone, the running learning curve is something like this: you hate it, you learn to hate a little less, you hate it a little less, you get hurt.

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #333 on: February 14, 2025, 11:47:05 AM »
At the simplest level, of course it's calories in, calories out. Food (and drink) are sources of energy. Our body converts it into energy, but stores excess. At a defecift, it burns the storage. That's weight gain and weight loss in a nutshell. That's why diet is the most important issue: are you adding to your energy storage, or are you depleting it. Exercise is a great way to increase the energy you are burning, but biologically your body reacts by telling you to consume more energy. One of the things that's tough about weight loss is that your body reacts to burning storage and sends signals to your brain that you need to consume more. Being a mammal is tough like that. (That's not the only way.) But we do have agency. We can fight those impulses.

I weigh too much. Nearly always have. Even in the Army, when I was pretty damn fit, I carried around a little extra. I had one glorious moment lo about 10 years ago where I actually hit a number where I thought: solid; no need for anything more. That lasted about three months. I love food. It's probably my primary means of self medication. Stressed? Eat. Bored? Eat. Celebrate something? Eat. Basically, lots of eating. And after that magical moment, life came at me in waves, so I packed on some weight, and I've struggled to get back to where I'm happy (not even that magical moment happy, just happier).

I'm also pretty darned active. I average an hour of relativly high intensity cycling (I say relatively, because it's not the highest--I'm not doing big climbs) three times a week; I lift about twice a week (which is a relatively recent thing for me); and I do a combination (depending on the season) of refereeing soccer games (the big kids, so 80+ minutes each), golfing, and playing tennis during most of the year (and I'm an on and off runner). I used to be a hockey player, and I want to be again, but...time and convenience are a factor. The wild thing is that only recently did I give myself some grace and think, "yeah, you weigh too much, but you're also pretty darned active and reasonably strong, which is a good sign." 

I should lose some weight. Among other things, I feel held back doing the athletics I want to do. I could run longer and faster as a referee, I would enjoy running more, and my joints would handle all of this stuff better than they do now. BUT...I can't beat myself up about it too much. And I really freakin' love ice cream.

(Sugar is my kryptonite--it, too, is addictive, which really freaking sucks, but not nearly as destructive as a bunch of other addictive things.)

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #334 on: February 14, 2025, 11:47:09 AM »
For me it's the impact. At my size it is just WAY too much impact on my lower half.

I realize it's probably because I have terrible running form, and if I learned to run properly it wouldn't be as hard on my body. But I hate it, so I'm not motivated to learn to do it better.
 

I used to enjoy running, and athletics in general.  I can't do anything impact wise these days.

At 34 I shattered my right tibia and fibula, (and ankle), playing soccer.  4 tibia breaks, 12 fibula breaks, and 2 ankle fractures.  (Spiral fracture)

Toting around 2 plates and 21 screws.  Lateral movement gonzo.  Every step I take hurts, but I got used to it -- day to day stuff.  Any light athletics, or anything on uneven surfaces is fairly excruciating.

A stationary bike, or a regular bike, is probably my best bet.  I used to enjoy to elliptical machines, and the rowing machines at the gym.

I'll blame the bad wheel for my pudginess.  :)

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #335 on: February 14, 2025, 11:52:32 AM »
I had a spiral fracture too. One plate and 14 screws. Lateral movement? LOL. And my wife wants me to play pickleball. Not happening.
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