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ELA

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #364 on: February 14, 2025, 03:17:56 PM »
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #365 on: February 14, 2025, 03:18:50 PM »
I agree, but I can run 3-4 miles in a half hour, just walking out my front door and starting. Hiking 10 miles takes a lot longer than that.
Yup, exactly.  I don't have a ton of time, I'm running before work most days, so I need to get it done in a half-hour.  Right now I'm doing 3 mile per day 3 days per week during the week, and then a 5-6 miler on one of the weekend days.  I can knock out the 3 miles and take a shower in just over 30 minutes, and then get to work.

It's taken me a while to get back to this level of activity and capability, but my goal was "I want to be able to run a decent 10K any time I feel like it" and that's where my training has gotten me so far.

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #366 on: February 14, 2025, 03:20:58 PM »
I agree, but I can run 3-4 miles in a half hour, just walking out my front door and starting. Hiking 10 miles takes a lot longer than that.
Blowing my knee out really hurt my "fun" exercise.  I played tennis and basketball a couple nights week.  Those might be the two worst things to do when you tore through every tendon in your knee.  I still jog, or walk, 4-5 times per week.  Pittsburgh topography makes jogging tough.  But I have to drag myself to do it.  Pre-kids, I jogged constantly.  I'd get up at 5 am to jog.  Now, I can't do that, and I'm also sick of it, because it's my only exercise.

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #367 on: February 14, 2025, 03:24:09 PM »
Yup, exactly.  I don't have a ton of time, I'm running before work most days, so I need to get it done in a half-hour.  Right now I'm doing 3 mile per day 3 days per week during the week, and then a 5-6 miler on one of the weekend days.  I can knock out the 3 miles and take a shower in just over 30 minutes, and then get to work.
I wonder if I need to change it up, because my daily 3 miler has only gotten slower.  I can't hit the Pittsburgh hills like I did a decade ago, and when I jog while back visiting parents in Michigan I'm always surprised how "Pittsburgh flat" isn't actually flat*.  But even on the treadmill I've gone from 23 minutes to do 3 miles to 29.

*-my normal "flat" jogging route in Pittsburgh tricks my watch into thinking I've also done 17 flights of stairs.  My whatever Michigan route doesn't even register elevation changes.

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #368 on: February 14, 2025, 03:56:25 PM »
Blowing my knee out really hurt my "fun" exercise.  I played tennis and basketball a couple nights week.  Those might be the two worst things to do when you tore through every tendon in your knee.  I still jog, or walk, 4-5 times per week.  Pittsburgh topography makes jogging tough.  But I have to drag myself to do it.  Pre-kids, I jogged constantly.  I'd get up at 5 am to jog.  Now, I can't do that, and I'm also sick of it, because it's my only exercise.
Swimming?

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #369 on: February 14, 2025, 03:58:52 PM »
The reason I've been able to make my cycling fairly consistent is that it's become my commute several days a week. For an extra 30 minutes in commute time, I add an hour ten of aerobic exercise. I could build a run into my morning routine instead, but I rather enjoy the ride, and somehow it's easier to force myself to do it when I use it as my method of getting to work.

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #370 on: February 14, 2025, 04:17:16 PM »
Swimming?
Now you are asking me to take my shirt off?

But seriously, yes.  Problem is, with 3 small children, I can't get in the pool at 6am and be out and showered before 7 like I can on a treadmill.  All of my ortho doctors have suggested it, and I've asked if they are willing to get my kinds on the bus

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« Reply #371 on: February 14, 2025, 06:00:03 PM »
The left knee being replaced in 1 week.  Then, 6 weeks later, the right.    

Years of football, basketball, volleyball, sand volleyball, etc.  And here we are.  

Can’t jog or even walk up stairs comfortably.    Spent my whole life moving.  Healthy in every other way.  Got to fix it.   

Not looking forward to it, but going to battle to get the strength and range of motion back. 
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #372 on: February 14, 2025, 06:05:41 PM »
I was thinking today about the lawyers we've had here on the board over the years (and still have).

I think I would've liked studying law.  I don't know that I would've liked being a lawyer, but just learning the finer points of it and discussing it in an academic environment, I mean. 

I used to work a job for a number of years that required a lot of knowledge of oil and gas law (as pertains to the state of Texas, anyway) and probate law.  It was there that I learned to wade through court cases, though in my case it was mostly divorce proceedings and probate decrees....anything that affected how real property title could pass from one entity to another.  There were a lot of people in that business who went to law school and became lawyers, I think aiming to go in-house with oil companies, maybe.  Sometimes though, they would just get law degrees to get them, and they kept working the same jobs.  I never understood that...I thought if you took the trouble and expense to put yourself through law school, you surely would not want to keep working the job we were doing, although it did tend to afford them some more interesting roles.  

Sometimes I would meet young lawyers who were just starting out, working for crews just like mine.  Again, I didn't understand, why in the world do my job instead of practicing law somewhere?  They told me it was because the legal profession around the cities they were from (a lot from San Antonio, as I recall) was saturated and they were doing this until they were able to get a real "lawyer job." 

One of my coworkers went to law school and I remember when he passed the bar.  He brought either a copy or a sample copy to the office one day and we were interested to see the oil and gas section, and if we could answer the questions.  There was only like 5 questions, but written answers, no multiple choice or anything like that, but I knew all the answers.  Our crew chief came out and wanted to know what we were looking at, we told him we were trying to see if we could pass the O&G portion of the bar, so he took a look at the questions, nodded, and said we better be able to, and he'd probably fire anybody who couldn't answer those (he wasn't serious). 

Anyway, I've idly wondered if there are any good primers, particularly on things like constitutional law.  Not necessarily legal textbooks, but information compiled for a layperson who wants to get solid on the basics beyond what they teach you (or not, anymore) in Civics class.  I asked one friend of mine, but she didn't have much of an answer.  I know you can google books, but I'd much rather have had the recommendation of someone I know and knew exactly what I was looking for. 

All that to say, as much as I like to argue with people, maybe I missed my calling as a trial lawyer.  
 

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #373 on: February 14, 2025, 06:11:07 PM »
I agree, but I can run 3-4 miles in a half hour, just walking out my front door and starting. Hiking 10 miles takes a lot longer than that.
Yeah, and don't get me wrong... I haven't been hiking in a LONG time. 

  • My one Purdue buddy who I know would be up for a hike, even though he lived an hour south of me in Carlsbad, moved to North Carolina (and now has two kids, so probably couldn't be up for hikes these days). 
  • My wife isn't a "hardcore" hiker, but she'd go with me for easier hikes--until the day I saw a rattlesnake. She's likely never getting on a trail again!

My oldest has started picking it up, but the problem there is that if I want to hike with him, it'll be when I've got the kids which means I'm leaving my wife home with the other two kids. Which I can do, but it's not a regular thing. 

The closest I get to hiking these days is trying to follow my golf ball into some of the unfortunate places I hit it :57:

I'm actually thinking about getting into mountain biking. A couple of my regular golf buddies have done it, and we've got some amazing trails around here (i.e. much like hiking). I bought a mountain bike but it's basically been hanging unused in my garage because I don't have anyone to go with and I'm wary of going alone as I've never done it. 


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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #374 on: February 14, 2025, 06:19:57 PM »
I was thinking today about the lawyers we've had here on the board over the years (and still have).

I think I would've liked studying law.  I don't know that I would've liked being a lawyer, but just learning the finer points of it and discussing it in an academic environment, I mean. 
I think I've got the aptitude for it. 

At Purdue, there was a freshman course called ENGR 100, which was basically just a seminar course where people from various engineering disciplines would come in and talk about their jobs and what they do. Sort of a thing for anyone who maybe wasn't 100% certain what type of engineering they wanted to do. 

One of those was patent law. Which is getting an bachelor's degree in engineering, then going to 3 years of law school, plus one ADDITIONAL year for patent law... 

Back in 1996, they said the starting salary for a patent lawyer was $90-160K/year. Let's just say that the starting salary for an electrical engineer in the heart of Silicon Valley in the middle of the dot.com bubble 4 years later... Wasn't remotely quite that!

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #375 on: February 14, 2025, 06:28:06 PM »
So what are you fellas doing for V-Day? 

For my wife and I, going out to a restaurant on this occasion is similar to what Badge says [and I agree with] re: going out to a bar on NYE. It's amateur hour. We cook, and we cook well, so we're not going to go out to an overcrowded restaurant and try to deal with the crazies. 

We had a long week and were having trouble figuring out what to do, so we're going pretty traditional. Steak, baked potato, a wedge salad, and a really nice bottle of wine from our stash. 

Got myself about a 21 oz ribeye and my wife an 8 oz filet at our good butcher shop. So I'll follow my usual of searing the ribeye on the small kamado grill and finishing in the oven, while her filet will be wrapped in bacon, cooked sous vide, and then seared on the kamado. 

She'll handle the potato and the salad, but basically traditional.

How about all of you?

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #376 on: February 14, 2025, 06:57:15 PM »
The long ball.  Chicks love the long ball. 😂
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #377 on: February 14, 2025, 07:16:59 PM »
1) Law school is about learning how to think like a lawyer; the phrase that gets kicked around is "issue spotting." That's really what the bar exams (at least the written portions) test: can you identify the problems presented.

2) It's a good question about where to find primers on law school education. Reading cases is the main thing. There are some classics. Without being patronizing: Marbury vs. Madison is the foundation of our theory of judicial power. Palsgraf v. Long Island Railroad is a classic on the theory of "duty" owed to other people. Miranda v. Arizona, Gideon v. Ogden, and Mapp v. Ohio give you a pretty good primer on rights of a criminal defendant. McCullough v. Maryland is good for congressional powers. Griswold v. Connecticut is pretty good on individual privacy. Erie Railroad v. Tompkins for the limits of federal vs. state law. But now you've piqued my curiosity about where to find a non-law school primer...

3) For Valentine's Day I'm absorbing some nasty looks for having agreed to referee a high school soccer game that starts at 7, trying to make up for it (a little) with a nice box of chocolates, and looking forward to a lovely bottle of wine afterwards, while we worry about what our 17-year old is up to with his girlfriend.

 

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