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Re: good read here, inline with recent topic
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2018, 12:06:25 PM »
so, that's why Michigan missed out on a top 5 finish in the final AP Poll in 73?

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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2018, 12:11:51 PM »
That is definitely the kind of season that could break the playoff as we know it. While some details could change (no more ties, and Michigan, Penn State, and Ohio State couldn't all finish the way they did here), you could have an unbeaten team out of each side of a major conference, playing close championship games, leaving 5 unbeaten or 1-loss teams, with a lot of others close by, and an independent and FCS team also in the ranks of unbeatens. Would that ever cause confusion (worst case would be 12-1 SEC west champion, having won the SEC, and Alabama at 11-1, with a close loss to the winner--thus not playing the SEC championship game, and the winner with an early loss to some other well-regarded team); a similar thing happens in another conference regarded at the time as one of the strongest, then a couple of unbeatens in the other major conferences, ND, and and FCS all coming in undefeated. Chaos!
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2018, 12:37:24 PM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on January 23, 2018, 12:11:51 PM
That is definitely the kind of season that could break the playoff as we know it. While some details could change (no more ties, and Michigan, Penn State, and Ohio State couldn't all finish the way they did here), you could have an unbeaten team out of each side of a major conference, playing close championship games, leaving 5 unbeaten or 1-loss teams, with a lot of others close by, and an independent and FCS team also in the ranks of unbeatens. Would that ever cause confusion (worst case would be 12-1 SEC west champion, having won the SEC, and Alabama at 11-1, with a close loss to the winner--thus not playing the SEC championship game, and the winner with an early loss to some other well-regarded team); a similar thing happens in another conference regarded at the time as one of the strongest, then a couple of unbeatens in the other major conferences, ND, and and FCS all coming in undefeated. Chaos!
2008 comes to mind. pre-bowls, you had:

in sec:
12-1 sec champs florida
12-1 sec runner up bama, in an seccg in which bama lead midway through the 4th qtr (close game).

bigxii:
12-1 champ ou (lost to texas, beat tt)
11-1 texas (lost to tt, beat ou)
11-1 tt (lost to ou, beat texas).
a 3-way tie for the div crown, with ou getting nod by being one of the 2 ranked highest in bcs at time, and won that h2h matchup (with texas).

in bigten
11-1 champ psu.

in pac
11-1 champ usc.

also had:
12-0 boise st
12-0 utah

now that is one big clusterf*#$
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2018, 06:50:33 PM »
Quote from: rolltidefan on January 23, 2018, 12:37:24 PM
2008 comes to mind. pre-bowls, you had:

. . . . 

bigxii:
12-1 champ ou (lost to texas, beat tt)
11-1 texas (lost to tt, beat ou)
11-1 tt (lost to ou, beat texas).
a 3-way tie for the div crown, with ou getting nod by being one of the 2 ranked highest in bcs at time, and won that h2h matchup (with texas).
I am sorry to say this, but OU lost the head-to-head with Texas.
I'm even sorrier to say that Texas probably deserved to go to the CCG.
The 3-way tie went like this.
Texas beat OU by 10 (45-35) on a neutral site (the Cotton Bowl).
Texas Tech beat Texas by one score (39-36) in Lubbock.  And I think that Tech scored in the final few seconds to win that game.

OU stomped Texas Tech (65-21) in Norman.

So Texas' only loss was not only the closest of the losses, it was on the road.
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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2018, 08:01:46 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on January 23, 2018, 06:50:33 PM

Texas Tech beat Texas by one score (39-36) in Lubbock.  And I think that Tech scored in the final few seconds to win that game.
28-yard touchdown pass to Michael Crabtree with 1 second left made it 39-33 (after the XP). One wonders what Tech's chances would have been if they had to line up for a 45-yard field goal with that remaining 1 second.
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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2018, 08:05:17 PM »
a gorgeous almost impossible catch of a perfectly placed pass....
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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2018, 08:24:55 PM »
crabtree was pretty good
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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2018, 09:22:32 PM »
It wasn't even the throw and catch, but the broken tackle and TD that left me speechless.  OHHH, HOW'D THEY GIVE UP THAT PA....OHHHHHH NO WAY HE SCORED!!!

They would've made the short FG, but still....nuts ending.
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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2018, 09:41:58 PM »
it wasn't as good as the Minneapolis Miracle, but it was stunning
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Re: good read here, inline with recent topic
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2018, 10:25:19 AM »
Quote from: CWSooner on January 23, 2018, 06:50:33 PM
I am sorry to say this, but OU lost the head-to-head with Texas.
I'm even sorrier to say that Texas probably deserved to go to the CCG.
The 3-way tie went like this.
Texas beat OU by 10 (45-35) on a neutral site (the Cotton Bowl).
Texas Tech beat Texas by one score (39-36) in Lubbock.  And I think that Tech scored in the final few seconds to win that game.

OU stomped Texas Tech (65-21) in Norman.

So Texas' only loss was not only the closest of the losses, it was on the road.
don't know how i screwed that up. i even got it right in the recap part. thanks for correction. how did ou win the tie breaker then? they were 2nd (behind texas) in bcs going into ccg weekend, unless the internet it wrong (can't be :)).

on crabtree's catch, it was amazing, but best part was his interview after the game. "i dreamed it in my head". good stuff.
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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2018, 04:06:14 PM »
Dates:

Oct 11 - Texas d. OU

Nov 1 - TTU d. Texas

Nov 22 - OU d. TTU

It's all in WHEN you win and lose....

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Re: good read here, inline with recent topic
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2018, 04:53:38 PM »
Quote from: Drew4UTk on January 22, 2018, 09:59:20 AM
why CFB has so much trouble crowning a NC...

https://www.cfb51.com/pub/?p=29565

thoughts?

UCF has nobody to compare to if they claim a title.  Nobody has claimed a title in any year they didn't win the AP or Coaches' poll since the early 1980s.  This guy is talking out his butt.  Because teams claimed titles in the 1920s based on a selector doesn't mean that's what's done today.
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Re: good read here, inline with recent topic
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2018, 05:11:27 PM »
i see what i did, i looked at wrong poll. i looked at ap poll, not bcs.

in ap poll, texas was 3rd and ou 4th going into ccg games (tt 8th)
in coaches, ou was 2nd, texas 3rd, tt 8th.
harris, texas 3rd, ou 4th, tt 8th

but in bcs, ou was 2nd, texas 3rd, tt 7th. this is the one that the tie breaker used.
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« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2018, 05:20:39 PM »
When humans are polled, losing early has always been a strength.
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