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bayareabadger

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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2020, 01:04:02 AM »
He's fried. 

Whoever steps in is gonna have a hell of a time. It'll be interesting. 
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2020, 01:56:20 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 07, 2020, 07:46:35 PM
love this thread
You shouldn't the law of averages suggests they just might find a coach
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2020, 04:59:43 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 08, 2020, 01:56:20 AM
You shouldn't the law of averages suggests they just might find a coach
That "law" of course isn't a law at all and if often misapplied.  

Look at Tennessee for an example of what CAN happen to a program with coach firings, a pretty high level program historically now perhaps on the verge of another.

Sometimes, the ground under your feet just shifts and unless you have a very fortunate hire, you're done.
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2020, 06:23:28 AM »
Not just Tennessee. There are plenty of programs as examples.

Look at FSU. Jeez. UNL. Even Texas. The shine is coming off those helmets.
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2020, 06:33:33 AM »
Yup, I have speculated in the past it takes 4-5 bad coaching hires for a near Blue Blood to start to appear to be mediocre.  See Army, Minnesota, Ole Miss, Arkansas (congrats on the win today, showing some life).

Once your program is perceived as being mediocre it's tough to climb back.  The top recruits don't even think about you.
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2020, 06:59:22 AM »
Harbaugh’s job is secure.  Michigan with their two OTs out lost on the road to a team ranked 10 spots higher.  The problems Michigan is having now were forseeable.

Nothing that happens this year matters.  As someone else here said the 2020 season is just a glorified Spring practice.
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2020, 07:14:31 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 08, 2020, 06:23:28 AM
Not just Tennessee. There are plenty of programs as examples.
How about Bama or even the OSU - took the right coach.So it can happen.Or Clemson they weren't in the discussion perennially until Dabo sauntered by
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2020, 07:35:46 AM »
Coaching matters.
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« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2020, 08:14:25 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 08, 2020, 01:56:20 AM
You shouldn't the law of averages suggests they just might find a coach
hah, you shouldn't either, but you do
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2020, 12:19:00 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 08, 2020, 06:33:33 AM
Yup, I have speculated in the past it takes 4-5 bad coaching hires for a near Blue Blood to start to appear to be mediocre.  See Army, Minnesota, Ole Miss, Arkansas (congrats on the win today, showing some life).

Once your program is perceived as being mediocre it's tough to climb back.  The top recruits don't even think about you.
Iowa was not elite before Forest Evashevski, but was elite during his era. Nearly two decades of nonwinning football followed after Forest Evashevski stepped down from coaching after the 1960 season when Iowa finished #3 AP behind Minnesota and Mississippi. Iowa became a coaching graveyard for 18-years.

The above are good examples of football programs that declined, and other mentioned in this thread.
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« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2020, 12:33:28 AM »
I'm not sure there's anything the established blue bloods could do at this point to lose that status. The national media was not a factor when those other programs lost their near status.  The helmet schools have fans from coast to coast, who would never have seen those teams when Army, Minnesota, etc were powerhouses.  The recruiting sites, ESPN, FS1, do better, selling to those brands, for good or bad.  The flip side, is that Harbaugh being mediocre is bigger news than coach X being mediocre, and at that point it starts to hurt recruiting.  
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« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2020, 07:37:33 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 08, 2020, 08:14:25 AM
hah, you shouldn't either, but you do
Originally but I hope the full 7 are served....then we'll talk extensions
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2020, 08:46:37 AM »
I'm good with that
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Re: #FireHarbaugh
« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2020, 08:53:36 AM »
Who would they get? Matt Campbell? A guy with zero conference titles, who is winless in CyHawk games?

What would be the point? An attempt to prove that there are coaches out there who could muster the same results as Harbaugh for less money?
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